She didn't betray the Templars. She remained committed to the Templar order's ideals as she saw them. It was Lambert she couldn't follow.
The Templars are not obligated to kill every mage, either. They aren't even obligated to imprison every mage. Meredith explicitly names Hawke Champion and then orders the Templars to leave them alone for years. Wilhelm lived and had a family in Honnleath. Exceptional individuals can be granted leniency, and our parties are always made of exceptional individuals. One line of dialog would be all it took to keep a Templar party member from ever making an unprovoked aggressive move towards anyone in the party.
Wynne also had more or less free reign to go where she wanted because of her service during the Fifth Blight.
The Templars are not obligated to kill every mage, either. They aren't even obligated to imprison every mage. Meredith explicitly names Hawke Champion and then orders the Templars to leave them alone for years. Wilhelm lived and had a family in Honnleath. Exceptional individuals can be granted leniency, and our parties are always made of exceptional individuals. One line of dialog would be all it took to keep a Templar party member from ever making an unprovoked aggressive move towards anyone in the party.
Wynne also had more or less free reign to go where she wanted because of her service during the Fifth Blight.
Wow, just when I thought your views couldn't sink any lower you surprise me. Marvelous.
Know that I respect your viewpoint on the Templar/Mage situation....
Also know that your Templar order can drop dead.
Hmm as i said you approach it too emotionally but many peoples do so well.
Also in what way sink?
But who will protect the world if they drop dead?
Hmm as i said you approach it too emotionally but many peoples do so well.
Also in what way sink?
But who will protect the world if they drop dead?
The Templars are fine. The Seekers need reform. For whatever reason, at some point in the last two decades they stopped doing their job, namely monitoring the Templars and intervening when necessary. This allowed otherwise unsuitable persons to rise into positions of authority, and otherwise unacceptable behaviors to continue unchecked.
With a properly functioning Seeker organization, you would have a return to the Circles so many characters talk about, where Mages have rights, freedoms and dignity within the constraints of maintaining a generally safe segregation from the populace.
^ This, kind of. Though their (Templars) behavior as of late will mandate some form of reprisal.
Templars along the line of Evangaline would make cool companions. Templar could also be a cool background for a player character.
Before the elves were confirmed to only be Dalish (still worst news in Inquisition 
), I was actually hoping that perhaps the Elf Warrior/Rogue would be a Templar so we can see them ingame.
The world survived fine before Andraste and that was even before the Templars.
Yeah as far i remember they tried go to the fade in their power hunger and almost destroyed world and created world-scale disaster that hunts thedas to the current day so yeah everything was under control. 
Yeah as far i remember they tried go to the fade in their power hunger and almost destroyed world and created disaster that hunts thedas to the current day so yeah everything was under control.
That's chantry hoax and not proven. So try harder. Also in that scenario Templars are useless, its the grey wardens who keep/kept the world safe.
EEE Corrypheus confirmed that hell even Anders had to admit it.Grey wardens fight with 1 disaster created by mages templars try prevent more disasters and fight another that mages cause yeah they do pretty sh*** job but it is all thanks to inefficient approach of the chantry when it comes to mages.
Yeah as far i remember they tried go to the fade in their power hunger and almost destroyed world and created world-scale disaster that hunts thedas to the current day so yeah everything was under control.
That is not confirmed fact.The Blight could've existed before the Magisters even arrived in the Golden City for all we know.
EEE Corrypheus confirmed that hell even Anders had to admit it.Grey wardens fight with 1 disaster created by mages templars try prevent more disasters and fight another that mages cause yeah they do pretty sh*** job but it is all thanks to inefficient approach of the chantry when it comes to mages.
Corypheaus also said the city was already black when they got there.
That is not confirmed fact.The Blight could've existed before the Magisters even arrived in the Golden City for all we know.
Yeah so we have magister that went to the black city now darkspawn and last thing he remembers is black city seems rather clear for me.
Corypheaus also said the city was already black when they got there.
It doesn't rly matter if it was golden ,black or pink or whether it was maker wrath or they just went to the place they shouldn't pretty much sure they brought taint.
Few Templars are zealots, look at Alistair or Thrask or any of the Templars who joined the conspiracy against Meredith. As a matter of fact, even Knight-Commander Greagoir was quite lax, the Kirkwall order seemed far more extreme than most other Templar orders.
The Codex and WOT states that Templar recruits are picked for their conviction and willingness to follow orders without question.The majority are zealots in some way.
I would put the current Templars thru lyrium detox, and vow to never enslave another young person coming into the order with that stuff again.
You can't combat magic without Lyrium.
Hence the conundrum.
No Anders questions what the chantry is hiding, he does not admit to anything. Besides the Imperial Chantry says its the old gods who created the darkspawn and became archdemons and mages had nothing to with it, except those who were puppets of old gods, aka possessed. I have no reason to believe the white chantry over the imperial one.EEE Corrypheus confirmed that hell even Anders had to admit it.Grey wardens fight with 1 disaster created by mages templars try prevent more disasters and fight another that mages cause yeah they do pretty sh*** job but it is all thanks to inefficient approach of the chantry when it comes to mages.
SO the old gods were responsible? Glad we agree on the matter. Of course old gods had close apprentices who happened to be mages, Why not lets blame ALL the mages for it. Even the Tevinter cannot be held responsible for this. besides the city was already black so boogeymen did not corrupt the golden city, it was already corrupted.Umm...
Yeah so we have magister that went to the black city now darkspawn and last thing he remembers is black city seems rather clear for me.
It doesn't rly matter if it was golden ,black or pink or whether it was maker wrath or they just went to the place they shouldn't pretty much sure they brought taint.
Again,the Blight could've been sitting inside the Golden City just waiting for some chump to release it.Cory said Dumat practically invited him and the other Magisters to the Golden City so there's no evidence they caused the blight either way.
The Codex and WOT states that Templar recruits are picked for their conviction and willingness to follow orders without question.The majority are zealots in some way.
She didn't betray the Templars. She remained committed to the Templar order's ideals as she saw them. It was Lambert she couldn't follow.
And the irony is, that both of them are committed to the ideal of the order.
Ideas and creed in dragon age are much like those in our own world, people have varying interpretations of them.
No Anders questions what the chantry is hiding, he does not admit to anything. Besides the Imperial Chantry says its the old gods who created the darkspawn and became archdemons and mages had nothing to with it, except those who were puppets of old gods, aka possessed. I have no reason to believe the white chantry over the imperial one.
SO the old gods were responsible? Glad we agree on the matter. Of course old gods had close apprentices who happened to mbe mages, Why not lets blame ALL the mages for it.
Don't you know?Blaming the majority for what the minority did is typical on these forums.
But to get this back on topic, I'd have the Templars due the following.
-Search for adolescents who have discovered their ability for magic and bring them to the Circle
-Oversee the training at the Circle in case mages go to forbidden magic or are possessed
- After a mage is released after passing the Harrowing, check in on mage occasionally to serve as an equivalent to a parole officer
- Search for and arrest dangerous mages
Again,the Blight could've been sitting inside the Golden City just waiting for some chump to release it.Cory said Dumat practically invited him and the other Magisters to the Golden City so there's no evidence they caused the blight either way.
They opened the friggin gate!
That's like not blaming the Dalish for summoning Ishmael.
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