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[Rofina Theirin]

Nobody's going to agree with me, I know, but I have to speak my mind.  *le sigh*  Ok, bring on the hate!

 

I believe in the flexibility of infinite options, likely or not, even if you have to work extremely hard for them or do something specific in game or code something to activate them.  It would be lovely to be able to romance certain-if-not-all characters in such a way.  I know I am asking for far too much, so please forgive me for that.  I just feel that, in real life, a person may be strongly disinclined to date a certain type of person, but through time and interaction, they may find themselves willing to make an exception.  They may be willing to venture outside of their preferred sexual orientations, race preferences, get over past loves, etc.

 

Characters on my mind (asterisk obviously represent what I want the most, and actually kind of hope to happen...everything else I kinda don't even think has a snowball's chance...even the stuff I really want probably doesn't, but I can hope.)

 

***Cole***

I just bought Asunder today, because the idea of Cole fascinates me.  So far, he does not disappoint.  I have read that he has the mentality of a child, and is a serial killer and so forth.  He is also pitiable, among other things.  So are many companions, in their own ways; why can't he be a love interest, as well?  I mean, it doesn't have to be a particularly...ahem...sexual relationship, even though he's technically an adult, but I feel he deserves love as much as the next person.  Just my opinion. :>  Some people want to kill him off or get rid of him, I personally want to smother him with love and cuddles~

 

**Varric**

I mostly wanted to romance him in DA:II, but I will take my Dwarven slice of pie whenever I can get it!!!  Varric is so sweet, and spicy, and adorable, and awesome!!!  I really want to know the story behind Bianca, and while I don't want to replace the love of his past, I want to be good enough to be his present if possible...I know others feel the same

 

Morrigan/Leliana

I love Morrigan, so no complaints, though I have to admit that I'm not fond of Leliana, from what I've seen of her thus far in Inquisition.  She was adorable and virtuous in Origins, but seems hardened and brutal now.  It's realistic, and war changes people...and I haven't seen much of her yet.  All my complaints aside, and despite the fact that the Warden may have romanced her (dead, alive, missing, or whatever), I think the option of being with her now would be nice

 

Dorian/Sera (same goes for race limitations as well)

I'm rather fond of both characters, as far as I've seen of both of them.  I think it's a beautiful thing to have homosexually exclusive characters, but...as myself, it also makes me sad, because...I want to romance them hetero-ly, too Q~Q;;;  I'm whining and complaining, I know.  I don't think they should all just be readily bi or pan, especially if it would be out of character to do so; but if they could be convinced somehow, or if the dialogue existed for it so a mod could just switch it on, that would be cool lol xD;;


(TOTALLY OFF TOPIC, BUT PLEASE GIVE US A MABARI/PETS KTHX!)

[Samahl]

Romance isn't about convincing people to be attracted to you. You're not entitled to a relationship just for "working hard". You're essentially asking for DA to be a romcom.

[90s Luke]

In my opinion, people with preferences are far more interesting than people without preferences.

 

All the extra writing, voice acting, and cinematic design needed for your proposal would be far too expensive anyway.

 

Besides, content has already been locked.

[Rofina Theirin]

Romance isn't about convincing people to be attracted to you. You're not entitled to a relationship just for "working hard". You're essentially asking for DA to be a romcom.

I'm saying that I wouldn't mind working my ass off for it, not that I would be in any way entitled to it.  Like I said, I enjoy the idea of options.  All that aside, I'm honestly only interested in Cole, anyway; I can use my imagination for the pre-existing romances.

[Talagen]

Please don't feed the trolls...

[Samahl]

I'm saying that I wouldn't mind working my ass off for it, not that I would be in any way entitled to it.  Like I said, I enjoy the idea of options.  All that aside, I'm honestly only interested in Cole, anyway; I can use my imagination for the pre-existing romances.

 

There are eight romances total, which seems like plenty to me. All of them will be available to straight people except for Sera and Dorian.

 

Why must everybody be romanceable? Has it occurred to you that aromantic people exist, or people who simply aren't interested in you?

[smoke and mirrors]

I would have liked to romance Varric in DA2 but to me Sera seems to be the Varric romance i wanted . It`s a bit that way with  Cass and Aveline

[XMissWooX]

I don't really think we should be able to romance everyone, but I think it would be cool if we could try. So, we'd have the option to flirt with all companions, but ultimately, they won't all reciprocate. A little bit like Aveline - no matter how hard you try to show her how you feel, nothing comes of it because she just doesn't feel that way about you.
I just feel that flirting and being turned down seems more natural than "I do say! I find myself incapable of flirting with you my dear man/woman! I am simply quite unable!"

And in regards to Cole - I don't believe that a romantic relationship with him could ever work, unless he matured drastically (and even then, I'd be very wary about it). Cole doesn't 'have the mind of a child' in that he has the mental age of a child, but rather his approach to romance (and possibly other relationships) can be likened to that of a child.
So, imagine trying to flirt with a child - at best you'd probably get an uncomprehending look, at worst they'd scream "cooties" (or whatever) and run away in terror. I think Cole would be more the former.
So basically, it comes down to a mix of him not understanding and not desiring a romantic relationship. I think that's a pretty valid stance for him, considering what we know of his character.

In my opinion, people with preferences are far more interesting than people without preferences.

Iron Bull is pansexual (has no preferences), and I think he looks very interesting.

[JWvonGoethe]

People in real life have preferences and we should respect those preferences rather than try to change them for our own gratification.

 

The more video games reflect that, the better.

[BabyFratelli]

I know romances are a big deal but choosing not to be in a romantic relationship is a perfectly viable option that lots of people do every day. People have preferences, and also not everyone wants to be in love. Just the way it is. The characters aren't less interesting or anything because you can't romance them, imo. 

 

Also with the Cole thing:

 

The reason he's not a love interest is because he essentially has the mind of a child, or at least the mind of a traumatized person who does not understand or is not emotionally mature enough to make romantic connections.

[daveliam]

I don't think they should all just be readily bi or pan, especially if it would be out of character to do so; but if they could be convinced somehow, or if the dialogue existed for it so a mod could just switch it on, that would be cool lol xD;;

 

 

So, you could be "convinced" to be gay?  Interesting.

[9TailsFox]

So, you could be "convinced" to be gay?  Interesting.

Yes. Isabella can convince anyone.

[LarryDavid]

They may be willing to venture outside of their preferred sexual orientations, ..

 

Exodus International ceasing to exist should be an indicator of the value of this statement

[Andraste_Reborn]

They may be willing to venture outside of their preferred sexual orientations

 

That ... really isn't how that works.

 

I'm as keen to romance Varric as the next crazy dwarf fangirl, but the other options you mentioned have all been taken off the table (or limited to certain genders) for good reasons. Cole is in no position to be a love interest unless he matures a lot, and we don't even know if he's capable of those feelings. And I'd rather they expended their limited resources on new options than on letting us romance Morrigan and Leliana again - if people are really interested, they can boot up Origins and do it there. You can reasonably argue that all the romances should be bisexual (I wouldn't necessarily agree, but you could) but the PC should not be able to persuade characters out of their sexual orientations. That's an awful idea.

 

Speaking as a romance junkie, I think eight options is plenty. (In fact, I think it's perfect - I'm planning to play the game with each race/gender combination, so I'll get through all of them!)

[Icy Magebane]

Seeing as how the game is finished, or almost finished, a romance with Cole is out of the question...

 

Varric would be the first dwarf romance option, which sounds good in theory.  However, since Solas is pretty much confirmed, I am against the idea because that would mean way too many men.  If there were more women to balance him out, I'd be okay with it, though.

 

Morrigan and Leliana... been there, done that... I don't see any reason to rehash this with a new PC.

 

Finally, convincing somebody to change their orientation because you are so persuasive is absurd... not much else to be said about that one.

[Ynqve]

Dorian/Sera (same goes for race limitations as well)

I'm rather fond of both characters, as far as I've seen of both of them.  I think it's a beautiful thing to have homosexually exclusive characters, but...as myself, it also makes me sad, because...I want to romance them hetero-ly, too Q~Q;;;  I'm whining and complaining, I know.  I don't think they should all just be readily bi or pan, especially if it would be out of character to do so; but if they could be convinced somehow, or if the dialogue existed for it so a mod could just switch it on, that would be cool lol xD;;

 

I'm really not comfortable with the implications of this. You don't choose to be gay. If they added a way for you to "convince" a gay character to become straight, that would be really really bad in so many ways. Especially when so many people are convinced IRL that people who are gay are so because of a "lifestyle choice". 

[Rofina Theirin]

I'm like Cole IRL, minus the killing people thing.  I've been traumatized, though largely under different circumstances, and off my meds, well...let's just say we wouldn't be having any kind of conversation right now.  Even on my meds, this is a bit difficult.  I'm not stupid or anything, though I'm not some genius either, but I have the mind of a child too.  I want to romance Cole because he's so similar to me.  I would be dead with out the love and dedication I get from my real life love interest, I just feel that Cole deserves the same

That said, if it's not in the game already, I can scarce expect it it by release date, now.  Maybe they'll release it as DLC later, but I seriously doubt it.  Fingers crossed anyway, but I doubt it.

 
About sexuality, I don't want to force anything on anyone, least of all in real life.  I'm simply stating that circumstances have dictated that romance occur outside normal boundaries from time to time.

[Lady Nuggins]

I'm like Cole IRL, minus the killing people thing.  I've been traumatized, though largely under different circumstances, and off my meds, well...let's just say we wouldn't be having any kind of conversation right now.  Even on my meds, this is a bit difficult.  I'm not stupid or anything, though I'm not some genius either, but I have the mind of a child too.  I want to romance Cole because he's so similar to me.  I would be dead with out the love and dedication I get from my real life love interest, I just feel that Cole deserves the same

That said, if it's not in the game already, I can scarce expect it it by release date, now.  Maybe they'll release it as DLC later, but I seriously doubt it.  Fingers crossed anyway, but I doubt it.

 
About sexuality, I don't want to force anything on anyone, least of all in real life.  I'm simply stating that circumstances have dictated that romance occur outside normal boundaries from time to time.

 

Cole literally has the mind of a child.  He's not whimsical and immature, he literally has the emotions and mentality of a kid.  That is why the devs get really grossed out when people ask for it. 

 

But why should you have to have a romance with him to have an affectionate relationship with him?  The fact that he's not an LI means that he will probably have a very strong friendship path instead. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Cole literally has the mind of a child.  He's not whimsical and immature, he literally has the emotions and mentality of a kid.  That is why the devs get really grossed out when people ask for it. 

 

But why should you have to have a romance with him to have an affectionate relationship with him?  The fact that he's not an LI means that he will probably have a very strong friendship path instead. 

No, I can see their point if they see Cole as being representative of them.

[Lady Nuggins]

No, I can see their point if they see Cole as being representative of them.

 

I understand really liking and relating to him for that reason, but I guess I don't see why that has to translate to having a romantic/sexual relationship with him.  Why can't you show him love and support as a really good friend? 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I understand really liking and relating to him for that reason, but I guess I don't see why that has to translate to having a romantic/sexual relationship with him.  Why can't you show him love and support as a really good friend? 

Oh, I agree with having a romance is not required. But on the other hand I can see why someone would like a LI who represent them as well. 

[aTigerslunch]

editing myself out, controversial topic unnecessary...

[Fialka]

I believe the devs later clarified that it isn't Cole's 'mental age' that's the issue here. It's his ability to consent. Think about how he was in the book - how he latched onto any person who showed him kindness or friendship. You could even say he loved Rhys, in his way, and he trusted Rhys implicitly. If, hypothetically, Rhys did approach him for a romantic or sexual relationship, Cole would possibly agree - but, would it be because it's something he wants or even understands? Or is it just because he doesn't want to disappoint Rhys or lose him as a friend, and trusts that Rhys wouldn't hurt him? Personally, I don't see how anyone could not find that scenario disturbing.

 

Also, Cole is not human. He's a spirit, and we know spirits don't understand the complexity of human relationships or even experience emotions the way we do. I don't think you can really compare him to people in real life.

[Rofina Theirin]

This is all really going over my head anymore.  My love is my only friend in the whole world, and I trust him implicitly.  I don't feel like he uses me for anything or in anyway.  I love him, he loves me, and he's good to me; isn't that enough?  If we switch the pronouns to Cole and Rhys, isn't it the same thing?  I don't get it.

[aTigerslunch]

Cole is out of the picture for a choice, and won't become a choice.