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[Han Shot First]

A coherent plot 

 

Both ME1 and ME2 were worse off than ME3 in that regard.

 

In ME2 you spend most of the game solving daddy issues rather fighting the Collectors, and the entire plot of Mass Effect 1 is nonsensical. Saren blows his cover and exposes Sovereign by attacking Eden Prime to obtain a Prothean beacon he already had (Virmire) to find a Conduit he didn't need, to gain access to the Presidium that he and his Asari commandos already had full access to. All Saren needed to do was attack Citadel Control with his Asari commandos while Sovereign and the Geth attack the Citadel fleets. The element of surprise would be his and another extinction cycle would have gone on without a hitch. 

 

In retrospect I wonder if in an early draft of Mass Effect Saren wasn't a Spectre. If Saren isn't a Spectre, his needing the Conduit might make sense. 

[Mordokai]

I wanted to see Thessia, before ravaged by Reapers. I wanted to walk down a park in Armali with Liara, have a talk about this and that... just spending time together. Maybe visiting unversity in Serrice, hearing a story from her student days. If she's your LI, something romantic and sappy.

 

I wanted to visit Palaven, see Garrus's father and tell him how awesome he is for making sure the galaxy has one of the best snipers and my best bro. If he's your LI, a quarrel between the three of you would no doubt be fun. Hearing some embarassing stories from his childhood would be a plus, as well as visiting some landmarks of Palaven.

 

I wanted to go pyjak hunting with Wrex on Tuchanka, coming back to Urdnot camp and getting wasted with him and Grunt on ryncol.

 

I wanted my engieShep and Mordin to do some crazy experiments on Sur'Kesh.

 

I wanted to go do something highly illegal, but that more fun because of it with Zaeed.

 

I wanted to re-enact Ocean's 11 with Kasumi.

 

tl;dr: I wanted to spend more time with squadmates and friends, lovers... people I came to care about. And more hub worlds, like Illium in the second game. That was one of my favourite parts.

[Farangbaa]

Both ME1 and ME2 were worse off than ME3 in that regard.
 
In ME2 you spend most of the game solving daddy issues rather fighting the Collectors, and the entire plot of Mass Effect 1 is nonsensical. Saren blows his cover and exposes Sovereign by attacking Eden Prime to obtain a Prothean beacon he already had (Virmire) to find a Conduit he didn't need, to gain access to the Presidium that he and his Asari commandos already had full access to. All Saren needed to do was attack Citadel Control with his Asari commandos while Sovereign and the Geth attack the Citadel fleets. The element of surprise would be his and another extinction cycle would have gone on without a hitch. 
 
In retrospect I wonder if in an early draft of Mass Effect Saren wasn't a Spectre. If Saren isn't a Spectre, his needing the Conduit might make sense.

hehe, I'd spend all my likes for the day on this post if I could.

[von uber]

Miranda's treatment didn't really bother me that much because I always thought of her as male fanservice from the beginning.

 

Yep; that is pretty much her role.

[themikefest]

A conversation with Harbinger. I wanted to ask him about the wife and kids and why he's the only one that looks like Leviathan and all the other Capaital ships had an extra leg. I wanted to hear him say ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL one more time before I died.

[ZipZap2000]

Agree with Grey_Wind ME2 left me wanting to face off with Harbinger not TIM. I expected he would be assuming direct control during missions and turning brutes and Banshees into nightmares instead of fire explosion practice. Not that Banshees didn't freak me out at the time *shudders*

[ZipZap2000]

Never really a Miranda fan unless I teamed her with Jack in combat. I cringed when I accidentally triggered "we can't let feelings get in the way of the mission".

[ImaginaryMatter]

Both ME1 and ME2 were worse off than ME3 in that regard.

 

In ME2 you spend most of the game solving daddy issues rather fighting the Collectors, and the entire plot of Mass Effect 1 is nonsensical. Saren blows his cover and exposes Sovereign by attacking Eden Prime to obtain a Prothean beacon he already had (Virmire) to find a Conduit he didn't need, to gain access to the Presidium that he and his Asari commandos already had full access to. All Saren needed to do was attack Citadel Control with his Asari commandos while Sovereign and the Geth attack the Citadel fleets. The element of surprise would be his and another extinction cycle would have gone on without a hitch. 

 

In retrospect I wonder if in an early draft of Mass Effect Saren wasn't a Spectre. If Saren isn't a Spectre, his needing the Conduit might make sense. 

 

Did the game ever say he got the Virmire beacon before he visited the Eden Prime one (I think the post Liara recruitment dialogue done after Feros and Noveria, but before Virmire hints that he didn't); and assuming he did already have it, would it be too far of a stretch to assume Saren/Sovereign thought thought the Eden Prime beacon might possibly have different information, warranting the attack on the colony? If not for Shepard and friends he probably wouldn't have been exposed anyway. I also doubt Saren and the Asari commandos could hold off C-Sec and whatever other security installments long enough.

 

All of this is assuming he knew what the Conduit was before heading to Ilos. Since Shepard has almost all of the same information as Saren couldn't we assume that he and Sovereign had no idea what the Conduit was until landing on Ilos and then arranging the whole Citadel attack afterwards?

[Iakus]

Did the game ever say he got the Virmire beacon before he visited the Eden Prime one (I think the post Liara recruitment dialogue done after Feros and Noveria, but before Virmire hints that he didn't); and assuming he did already have it, would it be too far of a stretch to assume Saren/Sovereign thought thought the Eden Prime beacon might possibly have different information, warranting the attack on the colony? If not for Shepard and friends he probably wouldn't have been exposed anyway. I also doubt Saren and the Asari commandos could hold off C-Sec and whatever other security installments long enough.

 

All of this is assuming he knew what the Conduit was before heading to Ilos. Since Shepard has almost all of the same information as Saren couldn't we assume that he and Sovereign had no idea what the Conduit was until landing on Ilos and then arranging the whole Citadel attack afterwards?

Nope, it is never established when Saren found the beacon on Virmire.  And given Shepard is basically following in his footsteps the whole time, it's pretty safe to say Saren had no idea until near the end what the COnduit was either.

[Dabrikishaw]

Both ME1 and ME2 were worse off than ME3 in that regard.

 

In ME2 you spend most of the game solving daddy issues rather fighting the Collectors, and the entire plot of Mass Effect 1 is nonsensical. Saren blows his cover and exposes Sovereign by attacking Eden Prime to obtain a Prothean beacon he already had (Virmire) to find a Conduit he didn't need, to gain access to the Presidium that he and his Asari commandos already had full access to. All Saren needed to do was attack Citadel Control with his Asari commandos while Sovereign and the Geth attack the Citadel fleets. The element of surprise would be his and another extinction cycle would have gone on without a hitch. 

 

In retrospect I wonder if in an early draft of Mass Effect Saren wasn't a Spectre. If Saren isn't a Spectre, his needing the Conduit might make sense. 

I heard Benezia was supposed to be the big bad of the first game but her voice actress had schedluing issues so her part had to be given to Saren

[ImaginaryMatter]

I heard Benezia was supposed to be the big bad of the first game by her voice actress had schedluing issues so her part had to be given to Saren

 

That would explain a lot. I found Benezia's inclusion to be questionable but it makes sense if she was a holdover from an earlier draft.

[Farangbaa]

Asians.

A severe lack of Asians

[DeinonSlayer]

She made a promise to Jacob. It wasn't until the moment he looked out the armory window that he truly understood what she meant.

OUCH. Was that why she did it there, to rub it in Jacob and Tali's faces? Kasumi calls out the latter, but I forgot that Jacob and Mordin (and Thane) had windows looking down on the core.

[Hello!I'mTheDoctor]

OUCH. Was that why she did it there, to rub it in Jacob and Tali's faces? Kasumi calls out the latter, but I forgot that Jacob and Mordin (and Thane) had windows looking down on the core.

 

The way I headcanon Miranda's decision to sleep in the engine room is to mark her territory. She is a tsundere to a point. Especially to Tali and Jack, the two people she considered to be the greatest... threat to her and Shepard (even though Shepard had no interest in them whatsoever, they were/are both interested in my Shepard, and Miranda is letting them no who's queen.)

 

I actually rather like the idea behind that. It is something Miranda would do. I just wish that there was more tension between her and Ashley as well. I'd pay to see Ashley fuming at seeing Shepard in the hands of the 'fake Cerberus swimsuit model'. 

[jtav]

Am I the only one who doesn't give much thought to the engine room beyond "Weekes thought it was cool and didn't really think through the implications?"

[Dale]

It lacked:

 

~ability to holster weapons

~hiding the autodialogue with a dialogue wheel where you say the same thing no matter what choice you make like in the first game

~epic final mission

~decent number of side quests

~a decent journal

~open-ness in the order you play the missions in [why couldn't I decide whether to do the Rannoch arc or the Tuchanka arc first?]

~Anderson as councilor [albeit, ME2 was exactly the same aside from a costume change for him. But that still took into account your decision]

~Krogan squadmate

 

and most importantly: Emily Wong

After taking the Shadowbroker's base, there was a video replay area in the back.   One vid was a krogan dialoguing with one of the reporters.   I THINK it was Emily Wong.    ILMAO when he smacked her and then the vid froze -- with her in midair.

[Hello!I'mTheDoctor]

Am I the only one who doesn't give much thought to the engine room beyond "Weekes thought it was cool and didn't really think through the implications?"

 

Maybe. It was meant to be unique I suppose. Miranda kind of was touted as the 'official' romance for ME2. 

 

I don't really think there are too many unfortunate implications.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Am I the only one who doesn't give much thought to the engine room beyond "Weekes thought it was cool and didn't really think through the implications?"

 

Although it has to be the most uncomfortable spot on the ship. Mmm, metal grating.

[Dale]

As with any undertaking, I believe some PROGRESS now and then might have been nice.  As it is, you know this is an impossible to win war (conventionally). 

 

As such, how can there be much progress mobilizing organics to ground-fight thousands of highly advanced metallic shielded supersquids a mile in length – that embody the technology of millions of years from countless harvested civilizations?

 

I always thought it strange that the crucible was built to EXACTING specifications – not having any idea what it does….that docks precisely with the citadel.

 

Consider if you had TWO different endings:  

 

(1) you were defeated by the reapers if you played stupid & clumsy .

(2) you defeated them if you played the game smart & clever.

 

I would have liked TIM to uncover something that blew up in his face – like stopping a reaper dead in its tracks (dormant) – where Shep & squad then struggle their way INSIDE a reaper to unlock phenomenal secrets of many civilizations.   Then the drama can REALLY get complicated making decisions based on what they find.   Then applying those findings to:

 

Wipe them out (defeat the reapters).

Wipe out the entire galaxy.

Blow themselves up (the Normandy)

Cause all kinds of good & bad repercussions that are endless (a good intro to ME4)

[Farangbaa]

Miranda was just making sure TIM had a good view of his.. eh.. assets

[Hello!I'mTheDoctor]

Although it has to be the most uncomfortable spot on the ship. Mmm, metal grating.

 

Eh, it's no different than doing it on the hood of a car. 

[von uber]

Maybe. It was meant to be unique I suppose. Miranda kind of was touted as the 'official' romance for ME2.

If you play as manshep and are 14 years old maybe.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Eh, it's no different than doing it on the hood of a car. 

 

Also ouch.

[Hello!I'mTheDoctor]

If you play as manshep and are 14 years old maybe.

 

Well, given the promotional material for ME2 seemed to focus exclusively on Miranda as an LI, and prior to ME3 Sheploo was the only acknowledged Shepard, then yeah, I'd say that I'm correct. Hell, even the trailers for FemShep in ME3 are just the same ones with Femshep replacing Sheploo. As are most of the gameplay trailers.

[Hello!I'mTheDoctor]

Also ouch.

 

Having sex in awkward positions is rather intriguing IMO. Maybe I've read the Kama Sutra too many times, but the standard man-on-top missionary under-the-covers with lights out is just plain not fun.