603 réponses à ce sujet

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

Honestly, the prestige hit that it takes to get good genes into the family isn't worth it. Unless my daughters runaway, which rarely happens while I'm alive, my daughters usually don't marry. 

mine just marry Varangians

[Dermain]

Well, I gave up on my nomad playthroughs for now, so I'm now attempting to do a Bavandid restoration of the Sassanian Empire.

 

The only flaw in the plan so far is that the Abbasid Caliph really doesn't want me holding any titles at all if I get too large, so I've had to restart after losing the revocation wars a ton. 

 

Edit:

So in my latest game, three characters in and I'm currently playing as the genius Emira of Tabriz/Tabaristan with a couple of provinces spread throughout Arabia. After the Caliph decided to join a war against the Bozok nomad clan (and was utterly destroyed by horse archers) I was able to found a successful faction to lower crown authority so I could go about reclaiming Persia, because the faction was at 230% he decided to hand out random sheikhdoms in order to "appease" me (and probably to win control through my elective monarchy). Unfortunately for the Caliph, since we had medium crown authority I was able to revoke their titles, allowing me to create Zoroastrian vassals, before finally asking crown authority to be lowered.

 

For whatever reason, the Caliph decided to go to war against me, and then he surrendered immediately after before any fighting could occur. 

 

I also re-learned how easy it is to make money as a feudal ruler after my numerous failed attempts at playing a nomad.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

Well, I gave up on my nomad playthroughs for now, so I'm now attempting to do a Bavandid restoration of the Sassanian Empire.

 

The only flaw in the plan so far is that the Abbasid Caliph really doesn't want me holding any titles at all if I get too large, so I've had to restart after losing the revocation wars a ton. 

 

Edit:

So in my latest game, three characters in and I'm currently playing as the genius Emira of Tabriz/Tabaristan with a couple of provinces spread throughout Arabia. After the Caliph decided to join a war against the Bozok nomad clan (and was utterly destroyed by horse archers) I was able to found a successful faction to lower crown authority so I could go about reclaiming Persia, because the faction was at 230% he decided to hand out random sheikhdoms in order to "appease" me (and probably to win control through my elective monarchy). Unfortunately for the Caliph, since we had medium crown authority I was able to revoke their titles, allowing me to create Zoroastrian vassals, before finally asking crown authority to be lowered.

 

For whatever reason, the Caliph decided to go to war against me, and then he surrendered immediately after before any fighting could occur. 

 

I also re-learned how easy it is to make money as a feudal ruler after my numerous failed attempts at playing a nomad.

making money as a nomad is hilariously easy, if you are the direct owner of a feudal holding (castle, city, temple) or if you've completed a siege of one you can pillage it and destroy up to 5 buildings inside it, each building gets you 20 gold and you can do it every 3 months

[Dermain]

making money as a nomad is hilariously easy, if you are the direct owner of a feudal holding (castle, city, temple) or if you've completed a siege of one you can pillage it and destroy up to 5 buildings inside it, each building gets you 20 gold and you can do it every 3 months

 

I am aware, but I'm usually playing as someone that's a bit too far away from feudal holdings to take advantage of it. 

 

I decided to do my Sassanid restoration project as the Saffarid's i the 867 start. I somehow ended up destroying the Sunni Caliphate title, took all of Greece in a Great holy war, became the Shaoshyant, watched as the Byzantine remnants conquered all of Italy and were in turn taken over by the Karlings, and I'm now attempting to whether a crusade for Greece while trying to take Egypt from the Abbasid remnants.

 

Edit:

 

The Knights Templar had won most of Spain from the Umayyad's in a prior Crusade, and they are now Slavic pagans. How does that work exactly?

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

i got mauled by a boar....NOT FUNNY PARADOX!!!

[Br3admax]

You shouldn't have drank the wine. 

[Dermain]

Sadly, my Zoroastrian restoration game bengcame corrupted within 30 years of the Ilkhanate showing up. So I was forced to restart.

 

Again starting as the Saffarid's I took advantage of the Iqta law system in order to get to high crown authority (for Primogeniture) by my third ruler before converting to Zoroastrianism. I also lucked out in that the Abbasid's remained weak which allowed me to quickly holy war most of Persia and Mesopotamia from them before I was able to restore the priesthood. Once that happened, I immediately vassalized the Immortals while winning the great holy war for the rest of Mesopotamia. I then broke my truce with the Abbasids in order to seize the duchy of Tabriz, and then took the last county of Azerbaijan so that I could be named Shaoshyant.

 

Unfortunately, that ruler died to camp fever while campaigning against the Tulunids for the duchy of Arabia. I then started playing as his son who's daughter ended up becoming a devil spawn. It looks like I'm going to have to get Agnatic-Cognatic succession passed quickly if I want to make sure that my brothers stay alive.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

Sadly, my Zoroastrian restoration game bengcame corrupted within 30 years of the Ilkhanate showing up. So I was forced to restart.

 

Again starting as the Saffarid's I took advantage of the Iqta law system in order to get to high crown authority (for Primogeniture) by my third ruler before converting to Zoroastrianism. I also lucked out in that the Abbasid's remained weak which allowed me to quickly holy war most of Persia and Mesopotamia from them before I was able to restore the priesthood. Once that happened, I immediately vassalized the Immortals while winning the great holy war for the rest of Mesopotamia. I then broke my truce with the Abbasids in order to seize the duchy of Tabriz, and then took the last county of Azerbaijan so that I could be named Shaoshyant.

 

Unfortunately, that ruler died to camp fever while campaigning against the Tulunids for the duchy of Arabia. I then started playing as his son who's daughter ended up becoming a devil spawn. It looks like I'm going to have to get Agnatic-Cognatic succession passed quickly if I want to make sure that my brothers stay alive.

make sure the devil spawn is your heir

[Dermain]

make sure the devil spawn is your heir

 

She will be once Agnatic-Cognatic succession is put into place...ideally within the next year or two (doubtful). So it's highly likely that my brother and heir, who was just crowned Shah of Armenia is going to be murdered in his sleep. The real unfortunate thing is that it's going to be almost impossible for her to have a divine marriage because she'll just kill her brothers off. 

 

It actually would have been hilarious if she was the Shaoshyant instead of just his descendant. I'm currently fighting off a Jihad from the Shia Caliph, which I find kind of amusing because he only has access to two thousand troops and besides his one vassal he's the only Shia on the map right now. I really don't know what the AI was thinking, but it did allow me to easily pass absolute crown authority which opens the door for Imperial Administration.

 

So ya, I was able to restore the Persian Empire within one hundred years, and then I ended up with a devil spawn child. I wish there was an achievement for that.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

She will be once Agnatic-Cognatic succession is put into place...ideally within the next year or two (doubtful). So it's highly likely that my brother and heir, who was just crowned Shah of Armenia is going to be murdered in his sleep. The real unfortunate thing is that it's going to be almost impossible for her to have a divine marriage because she'll just kill her brothers off. 

 

It actually would have been hilarious if she was the Shaoshyant instead of just his descendant. I'm currently fighting off a Jihad from the Shia Caliph, which I find kind of amusing because he only has access to two thousand troops and besides his one vassal he's the only Shia on the map right now. I really don't know what the AI was thinking, but it did allow me to easily pass absolute crown authority which opens the door for Imperial Administration.

 

So ya, I was able to restore the Persian Empire within one hundred years, and then I ended up with a devil spawn child. I wish there was an achievement for that.

the Caliph declaring a Jihad with only 2k troops surprises you? the Pope and his 500 declared war on me

[Nattfare]

Think it might be related to their rationality score if they wage such hopeless wars. At least I think that the lower that score is, the more moronic that character will be.

[Steelcan]

So in my newest saxon game much has been happening.

 

Start off with the basics, starting in 1066 as the Duke of Huntington...or was it Northampton, unimportant.  Harold died in battle with Harald (twist I know) and his brother came to the throne, William and Harald spent them selves besieging land and we were able to mop them up.  For the next 20 years I built my powerbase in England with some marriages and factions and what not.

 

When the King was weak I named myself king of England and attacked him.  I was able to win but only just, through the timely side switching of a Mercenary company.  So I took over as King and implemented primogeniture as soon as I could.

 

However, this is all not nearly as unusual as what was happening in the Middle East.  First things first, the Doukas family has thus far successfully held the throne of Byzantium not only against domestic threats, but they have also sent the Seljuks packing.

 

The Seljuks in turn fell to a Persian liberation revolt, led by a Zoroastrian with amazing stats.

 

 

 

Note that screenshot is now a few years out of date, but the only big changes are that he's got a ton of kids and Jerusalem is in Catholic hands.

 

The Fatamids are also very powerful currently, and Iberia is a bit of a mess, might have to intervene in there.

[Fast Jimmy]

Sadly, my Zoroastrian restoration game bengcame corrupted within 30 years of the Ilkhanate showing up. So I was forced to restart.

Again starting as the Saffarid's I took advantage of the Iqta law system in order to get to high crown authority (for Primogeniture) by my third ruler before converting to Zoroastrianism. I also lucked out in that the Abbasid's remained weak which allowed me to quickly holy war most of Persia and Mesopotamia from them before I was able to restore the priesthood. Once that happened, I immediately vassalized the Immortals while winning the great holy war for the rest of Mesopotamia. I then broke my truce with the Abbasids in order to seize the duchy of Tabriz, and then took the last county of Azerbaijan so that I could be named Shaoshyant.

Unfortunately, that ruler died to camp fever while campaigning against the Tulunids for the duchy of Arabia. I then started playing as his son who's daughter ended up becoming a devil spawn. It looks like I'm going to have to get Agnatic-Cognatic succession passed quickly if I want to make sure that my brothers stay alive.

So... you could say in your current campaign... there's some suffering Saffarid's?

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

So... you could say in your current campaign... there's some suffering Saffarid's?

that was bad...

[Fast Jimmy]

that was bad...

Yes. Yes it was.

[Dark Helmet]

Yes. Yes it was.

 

I had to start a PAGAN game.

 

That's how bad it was.

 

Not Germanic pagan either.

 

WEST AFRICAN.

 

I hope you're happy.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

I had to start a PAGAN game.

 

That's how bad it was.

 

Not Germanic pagan either.

 

WEST AFRICAN.

 

I hope you're happy.

meh, real men play hellenic

[Dark Helmet]

meh, real men play hellenic

 

I was gonna, it's been removed from the RD. Or so Steelcan says.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

I was gonna, it's been removed from the RD. Or so Steelcan says.

yeah it has, no idea why though, i added it back

[Dermain]

And I just lost all of Mesopotamia to a jihad by the Abbasids. 

 

I still have no idea how I lost it either. It's almost as if the Abbasids pulled a 300 on me... 

 

Edit:

 

It seems my armies bugged out and they instantly drop to 0 morale the moment a battle starts. Well, there goes that game. 

[Nattfare]

Got a bit of a scare when my heir got murdered while my character was 72. Married quickly and took three conqubines just to be safe. Ended up with three damn heirs in the process. Two years later the king died and I play as a weaker character since all my demses got split into three.
No doubt there is going to be fights and plotting for the whole kingdom between the three siblings once they are of age.

Spoiler

A year later Svitjod changed name to Sweden as it got conquered by the Duke of Bohemia. The Slavic king of the Norse have to deal with constant rebellions right now and he can't handle them all.
Further west the Karlings are constantly picking on each other. Especially on the new king of West Francia after that his father somehow managed to die in battle against himself... still trying to figure that one out.

To the east Ukraine/Ruthenia keeps changing ruler every five years or so when someone else moves in after having conquered it. If I want to see the Slavic faith reformed I probably have to take over Ukraine myself.

Have also joined my ally, Croatia, in their war to take over territory from the Byzantine Empire.

Spoiler

[Dermain]

So after my last Sassanid restoration campaign was destroyed by a very annoying bug, I finally managed to start up a new campaign. 

 

I expanded quickly as Ya'Qub and decided to eat the "truce breaker" debuff against the Justanid and the Karen Zoroastrian rulers. The Justanid's quickly eliminated the Shia Emir who starts in Tabaristan as well as taking out Azerbaijan, while the Karen's picked apart the remnants of the Samanid's, who had their ruler die one year into the game from illness. After I had stolen all of Tabaristan, Azerbaijan, Tabriz, and Khiva, I then turned my attention to forming the Kingdom of Persia and abusing the Iqta law system to end up at high crown authority (I also made use of the crown authority bug by raising the authority of Baluchistan, forming Persia, destroying Baluchistan, and then upgrading to medium for Persia since it reset). 

 

I then started trying to vassalize the Emir of Hamadan, but I was only able to do that after I had usurped the Emirate of Kermanshah in Mesopotamia and after Ya'Qub had died. I then quickly raised the crown laws to High and waited ten years to put primogeniture succession in place before building up enough piety to switch religions and take on the Abbasids. Thankfully, the Abbasid's had been going through years of civil war that kept their realm fractured (they barely held onto Mesopotamia, Jerusalem, and Syria), and Shah Zand the Cruel (I ended up with the best monikers for my rulers) was able to quickly restore the Persian Empire and the Zoroastrian priesthood.

 

Naturally, the Moabaden-Moabad called for a great holy war for Mesopotamia which was quickly won, and then all I had to do to become the Shaoshyant was conquer the three independent Emir's in Mesopotmia as well as take on the ****** (No idea what this is about) of Armenia for the remainder of Azerbaijan. Unfortunately, Shahanshah Zand died before the war for Azerbaijan finished, so it was left to his son Faramaz to become the Shaoshyant.

 

After becoming the Shaoshyant a number of setbacks occurred for Faramaz. His first, second, and third sons all died of Typhus (this has game has been plagued by plagues) and his sister-wife soon followed. Extremely depressed the Shaoshyant committed suicide leaving his fourth son, the seventeen year old Marzuban, to take over the empire.

 

Marzuban's first year as Shahanshah was tumultuous to say the least. He immediatly had to appease the Shah's of Khiva, Afghanistan, and Baluchistan before they rebelled in an attempt to lower the crown authority. Thankfully, the Shia Caliph (who controlled the Sultanate of Arabia) decided to declare a jihad for Mesopotamia with only three thousand troops. The Immortals quickly annihilated the Caliph and his army while the Shahanshah's retinues watched over the Satrapy of Basra and the new crossing between eastern Arabia and Persia. 

 

After the jihad, the Basileus declared a holy war for a duchy in Armenia. While the Immortals and part of the Shahanshah's retinues won some early victories, they were completely obliterated when the Basileus lead the Varangian guard. The war ended in the county of Edessa where Shahanshah Marzuban was maimed and the Basileus was killed. The Byzantine Empire fell to the Basileus' two year old son who was immediately ousted by the Makedon kinsman that ruled over Sicily and had converted to Catholicism. Marzuban decided to take advantage of the Byzantine's conflicts and declared a holy war to seize the remainder of the Duchy of Edessa. The war was quickly won, but not before the Basileus died due to illness leaving the Empire under the control of his daughter.

 

In order to seize the last Duchy of Armenia not under Persian control, Marzuban started a plot to assassinate the young Basilissa which led to the orthodox branch of the Makedon family retaking control of the Empire. Shortly after the war ended, Shahanshah Marzuban finally succumbed to his wounds leaving the Persian Empire to his son Kamran I.

 

Kamran's reign was relatively simple. He conquered the rest of Arabia controlled by the Shia Caliph, and took more of Syria from the Abbasids. Unfortunately, a feud was about to erupt within the Saffarid family which was partially a result of Kamran I's insanity. Kamran's heir (Kamran II) murdered his sister-wife because she had cheated on him with his cousin. In retaliation, Kamran I slept with his nephews wife which led to three children, the third was named illegitimate and led to his nephew, Baham, having Kamran I assassinated.

 

Kamran II's rule was mostly unimportant. Like his father, he was a raving lunatic, but the people still viewed him favorably and named him 'the Just'. Despite having numerous concubines Kamran II only produced two children, both of them female, before his death. At the age of 50 Kamran II became infirm, upset over this he jumped to his death from the roof his palace in Esfahan.

 

Kamran II's twenty-eight year old daughter Shahzedah became Empress, and she quickly separated herself from her father and grandfather's legacy of madness. She was renowned as a great poet, but she was more widely known as the Empress that conquered the city of Constantinople. The Moabaden-Moabad called for a great holy war for Greece, which fell within eight years despite the assistance of the Kingdom of Italy. 

 

I'm going to end my little chronicle there because it's just going to get way too long. Suffice to say I've conquered all of Arabia, Greece, and Hungary, Taurica, Georgia, and converted Norse Ireland to Zoroastrianism just for a laugh.

 

I was prepared for a very long and intensive fight with the Ilkhanate over Khiva until I was surprised by Genghis Khan himself showing up with the Mongol Empire in Mongolia.

 

It was really anti-climatic. 

 

I also wish I remembered to take screenshots.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

So after my last Sassanid restoration campaign was destroyed by a very annoying bug, I finally managed to start up a new campaign. 

 

I expanded quickly as Ya'Qub and decided to eat the "truce breaker" debuff against the Justanid and the Karen Zoroastrian rulers. The Justanid's quickly eliminated the Shia Emir who starts in Tabaristan as well as taking out Azerbaijan, while the Karen's picked apart the remnants of the Samanid's, who had their ruler die one year into the game from illness. After I had stolen all of Tabaristan, Azerbaijan, Tabriz, and Khiva, I then turned my attention to forming the Kingdom of Persia and abusing the Iqta law system to end up at high crown authority (I also made use of the crown authority bug by raising the authority of Baluchistan, forming Persia, destroying Baluchistan, and then upgrading to medium for Persia since it reset). 

 

I then started trying to vassalize the Emir of Hamadan, but I was only able to do that after I had usurped the Emirate of Kermanshah in Mesopotamia and after Ya'Qub had died. I then quickly raised the crown laws to High and waited ten years to put primogeniture succession in place before building up enough piety to switch religions and take on the Abbasids. Thankfully, the Abbasid's had been going through years of civil war that kept their realm fractured (they barely held onto Mesopotamia, Jerusalem, and Syria), and Shah Zand the Cruel (I ended up with the best monikers for my rulers) was able to quickly restore the Persian Empire and the Zoroastrian priesthood.

 

Naturally, the Moabaden-Moabad called for a great holy war for Mesopotamia which was quickly won, and then all I had to do to become the Shaoshyant was conquer the three independent Emir's in Mesopotmia as well as take on the ****** (No idea what this is about) of Armenia for the remainder of Azerbaijan. Unfortunately, Shahanshah Zand died before the war for Azerbaijan finished, so it was left to his son Faramaz to become the Shaoshyant.

 

After becoming the Shaoshyant a number of setbacks occurred for Faramaz. His first, second, and third sons all died of Typhus (this has game has been plagued by plagues) and his sister-wife soon followed. Extremely depressed the Shaoshyant committed suicide leaving his fourth son, the seventeen year old Marzuban, to take over the empire.

 

Marzuban's first year as Shahanshah was tumultuous to say the least. He immediatly had to appease the Shah's of Khiva, Afghanistan, and Baluchistan before they rebelled in an attempt to lower the crown authority. Thankfully, the Shia Caliph (who controlled the Sultanate of Arabia) decided to declare a jihad for Mesopotamia with only three thousand troops. The Immortals quickly annihilated the Caliph and his army while the Shahanshah's retinues watched over the Satrapy of Basra and the new crossing between eastern Arabia and Persia. 

 

After the jihad, the Basileus declared a holy war for a duchy in Armenia. While the Immortals and part of the Shahanshah's retinues won some early victories, they were completely obliterated when the Basileus lead the Varangian guard. The war ended in the county of Edessa where Shahanshah Marzuban was maimed and the Basileus was killed. The Byzantine Empire fell to the Basileus' two year old son who was immediately ousted by the Makedon kinsman that ruled over Sicily and had converted to Catholicism. Marzuban decided to take advantage of the Byzantine's conflicts and declared a holy war to seize the remainder of the Duchy of Edessa. The war was quickly won, but not before the Basileus died due to illness leaving the Empire under the control of his daughter.

 

In order to seize the last Duchy of Armenia not under Persian control, Marzuban started a plot to assassinate the young Basilissa which led to the orthodox branch of the Makedon family retaking control of the Empire. Shortly after the war ended, Shahanshah Marzuban finally succumbed to his wounds leaving the Persian Empire to his son Kamran I.

 

Kamran's reign was relatively simple. He conquered the rest of Arabia controlled by the Shia Caliph, and took more of Syria from the Abbasids. Unfortunately, a feud was about to erupt within the Saffarid family which was partially a result of Kamran I's insanity. Kamran's heir (Kamran II) murdered his sister-wife because she had cheated on him with his cousin. In retaliation, Kamran I slept with his nephews wife which led to three children, the third was named illegitimate and led to his nephew, Baham, having Kamran I assassinated.

 

Kamran II's rule was mostly unimportant. Like his father, he was a raving lunatic, but the people still viewed him favorably and named him 'the Just'. Despite having numerous concubines Kamran II only produced two children, both of them female, before his death. At the age of 50 Kamran II became infirm, upset over this he jumped to his death from the roof his palace in Esfahan.

 

Kamran II's twenty-eight year old daughter Shahzedah became Empress, and she quickly separated herself from her father and grandfather's legacy of madness. She was renowned as a great poet, but she was more widely known as the Empress that conquered the city of Constantinople. The Moabaden-Moabad called for a great holy war for Greece, which fell within eight years despite the assistance of the Kingdom of Italy. 

 

I'm going to end my little chronicle there because it's just going to get way too long. Suffice to say I've conquered all of Arabia, Greece, and Hungary, Taurica, Georgia, and converted Norse Ireland to Zoroastrianism just for a laugh.

 

I was prepared for a very long and intensive fight with the Ilkhanate over Khiva until I was surprised by Genghis Khan himself showing up with the Mongol Empire in Mongolia.

 

It was really anti-climatic. 

 

I also wish I remembered to take screenshots.

needs more romans

[Dermain]

needs more romans

 

I'm eventually planning a game, but it's not something on my current CK2 bucket list. In my Sassanid restoration campaign the Byzantines are all Catholic, reside in Sicily, and only have a few counties in Croatia that I haven't taken from them yet.

 

I was (un)pleasantly surprised that with the Horse Lords expansion the mongols aren't really a major threat unless you happen to have a ton of territory in the steppes (or your religious leader calls for a crusade on a steppe kingdom). I spent my entire game building up everything in order to fight off the Ilkhanate, but since they never showed up I'm now the most powerful country in Europe with very little to actually do now.

 

I'm considering doing a harder version by playing as the Bavanid's in 769 because then there's more of a challenge in fighting off the Abbasids, but it's really dependent on the actual difficulty of it.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

so, how 'bout dat Stellaris