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the real reason why u shouldnt brag about outscoring a tgi


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Hey-Zuez-Christy...You must Be Cain's watch dog......Every so-called celebrity must employ some type of interference...even though they- them selves are actually not- affecting anything around them...though they think they are.....as much to inflate their ego


Seriously how r u not permabanned yet?
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Zea instead of making "threads", you need to learn how to use equipment, "I have no ammo left" (has 200 of each ammo type left in his inventory). You also need to stop whining about people "stealing" your kills.


wut? no one is talking about ammo or stealin kills

@caldari ghost. im basically making the case that near every kit can slay mooks as quick as a tgi which is where the juicy score is, just not bosses, but if players are good enough and not die often... the main advantage of tgi (stimpacks to allow more aggressive play) gets nearly negated.

tgi is one of those kits u outscore people and carry the match based off your LIFE SUSTAIN, not your damage. he has great damage but u dont nees great damage to abuse mooks and avoid bosses all game

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wut? no one is talking about ammo or stealin kills

@caldari ghost. im basically making the case that near every kit can slay mooks as quick as a tgi which is where the juicy score is, just not bosses, but if players are good enough and not die often... the main advantage of tgi (stimpacks to allow more aggressive play) gets nearly negated.

tgi is one of those kits u outscore people and carry the match based off your LIFE SUSTAIN, not your damage. he has great damage but u dont nees great damage to abuse mooks and avoid bosses all game

But maybe they should. :P



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im glad u got zaids, then maybe u will perish the half effect universe and do us all a favor

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im glad u got zaids, then maybe u will perish the half effect universe and do us all a favor

 

I love you too sweetie. ;)

 

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 Caldari Ghost...as I am new to BSN...is hilarious...Dude, you are funny ...I am excited to be a part of this...

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wut? no one is talking about ammo or stealin kills

@caldari ghost. im basically making the case that near every kit can slay mooks as quick as a tgi which is where the juicy score is, just not bosses, but if players are good enough and not die often... the main advantage of tgi (stimpacks to allow more aggressive play) gets nearly negated.

tgi is one of those kits u outscore people and carry the match based off your LIFE SUSTAIN, not your damage. he has great damage but u dont nees great damage to abuse mooks and avoid bosses all game

 

I can see where you are coming from with this, and in that context, it makes sense...but according to else everybody here, it's not the whole picture ( or maybe everything about it is false to begin with). i don't really know, so I'll just watch.



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And we are done here?



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@caldari ghost. basically where im ultimately getting at is that score honestly doesnt mean JACK. if u prioratize mooks and use combos and be all fancy u can maximize ur score, but what does it matter if u kill an enemy with an op weapon or a combo, same wave budget regardless.

when i use the talon merc, the cain mines always yeielded low score per kill very similar to using a missile, whats actually happening is that the cain mines are actually robbing the wave budget so theres less juicy score to abuse by ur teamates so thus makes the illusion the talon merc is a high scoring kit.
same thing with TGI, except he robbs score based on his stimpacks AND/OR teamates dying alot. hes just simply on offense attacking more.

having said all that the TGI is still the most broken kit because of stimpacks lol. but seeing a random tgi in my lobby gets me pumped because its time for me to whip out my undefeated krogan soldier and show dem pugs what the real meaning of cheese is
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even as a volus sent?



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having said all that the TGI is still the most broken kit because of stimpacks lol. but seeing a random tgi in my lobby gets me pumped because its time for me to whip out my undefeated krogan soldier and show dem pugs what the real meaning of cheese is

 

Whilst being very careful not to brag about it, I'm sure.



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Whilst being very careful not to brag about it, I'm sure.


i can be competitive without bragging, usually i get a msg saying gg and ill respond with a gg right back.

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@ zae,

 

nice i suck with the krogan soldier XD



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Okay I'm bored.

:)

 

I'll be cutting out some clutter from your posts to clean them up for quoting purposes.

 

TGI has overload tac cloak and stimpacks.

now we all agree that overload is awesome, detonates, stuns, good power.

but the other two powers tac cloak and stim packs, arent really powers that "boosts" ur score.

instead the simple sheer fact that the TGI can spam tac cloak and stim packs ALLOWS the tgi to engage the enemy near constantly without necesarily needing soft cover. basically he can go balls deep. thats he TGIs true advantage.

now lets take a friendly scoring competition between an tgi vs human engineer... or any NON talon merc engineer OR any biotic.. most of the enemies killed by the tgi will be with his sheer offensive power but it wont translate into most score per kill as lets say a biotic causing explosions every 3 seconds or so... thus these kits will have more score per enemy slain.

IF both players are equal skill and NEITHER player dies, then the non tgi player SHOULD outscore a tgi because the constant offense of a tgi is negated by both players skill cap, since neither player dies they both are on offense thus the non tgi player of equal skill suffers loss of score from the SAME abilities that makes him so darn powerful.

 

Yes, Overload is awesome. It is actually the BEST non-grenade crowd control and shield stripper. The advantage of the TGI is his Cloaked Overload can use the triple Overload evolutions and still be more powerful than a double Overload from an Vanilla Engineer. What advantage does this have? Oh, I don't know... It actually helps you kill faster by controlling 50% more enemies at once, stripping the shields from 50% more enemies, heck maybe it even has the potential to cause 50% more bursts.

 

Stimpacks do allow you to be balls deep in enemies. Some may even say it allows you to sustain more damage, or possibly to go to positions that allow you to kill more enemies without dying. Either way Stimpacks allow you to kill more things (more quickly).

 

How does neither player dying mean they both were offensive the entire match? Furthermore, even if they were offensive the entire match you supplied zero supporting facts as to why the TGI would score less considering it does more damage on both mooks and bosses as opposed to any other Overload user. Your "target prioritization" argument is a wash because the TGI can control more mooks and kill them more quickly using just as many powers and weapons as another engineer, but also has the added benefit of shredding bosses.

 

 

it helps u get kills om bosses faster... mooks die instantaneously by any means necessary if ur not brain dead (on host phantoms and dragoons excluded obviously)

all that damage serves to kill bosses faster, the score comes from how well u prioratize and kill mooks, which most kits can kill instantly unless ur gold level spectre

u can only kill mooks so fast. excluding certain grenades obviously

 

Feeling a little brain dead, Mr. Gold level non-spectre?

 

Hell, I'm even using your words there so you can't be upset for me being an *******. You're just being an ******* to yourself.


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ladies, ladies.............step it up a notch.


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I beat a TGI  with one king raptor and a rockvee.



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ok me0120. so what if a tgi is vs a human engineer?

now overload is on both kits.

human engineer still wins scorewise. why?
combat drone > stimpacks AND tac cloak for scorepadding

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volus vangod can outscore everybody in the universe.



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you shouldn't because 99.9% of TGI players are using the class because they are bad, and they probably won't be scoring well anyway because of crap skill in all areas of gameplay that don't involve blundering into certain death situations and spamming pills/ spraying carrier everywhere.

For the remainder who actually know how to play the class, you can just equip any grenade class with capacity V and an adrenaline mod and run around nuking everything and denying them stims from ammo boxes if it really bothers you that much.

TGI is basically like that one crutch gun that seems to exist in every shooter, that isn't actually the best in damage output but is still ubiquitous because a brain damaged ape with one arm could use it and automatically get a mediocre to good score.

Outscoring a Quarian is far more worthy of bragging rights, as everyone knows only the most elite play as Quarians


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I beat a TGI  with one king raptor and a rockvee.

 

I once solo'd the entire Reaper invasion with Colonel Burton.


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you shouldn't because 99.9% of TGI players are using the class because they are bad, and they probably won't be scoring well anyway because of crap skill in all areas of gameplay that don't involve blundering into certain death situations and spamming pills/ spraying carrier everywhere.
For the remainder who actually know how to play the class, you can just equip any grenade class with capacity V and an adrenaline mod and run around nuking everything and denying them stims from ammo boxes if it really bothers you that much.
TGI is basically like that one crutch gun that seems to exist in every shooter, that isn't actually the best in damage output but is still ubiquitous because a brain damaged ape with one arm could use it and automatically get a mediocre to good score.
Outscoring a Quarian is far more worthy of bragging rights, as everyone knows only the most elite play as Quarians


yeah like the ACR on modern warfare 2... such a scrub gun

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I outscored a Harrier TGI today, but I was GI and it was already unfair for him. :)



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ok me0120. so what if a tgi is vs a human engineer?

now overload is on both kits.

human engineer still wins scorewise. why?
combat drone > stimpacks AND tac cloak for scorepadding


Oh goodness I don't think you actually know how to read.