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[The Ascendant]

We've seen some very interesting topics in this forum, but I always enjoy listening to other peoples opinions on a wide variety of subjects. So who do think are the most dangerous beings to threaten the world? For me I think it's the following.
Darkspawn, Demons, Dragons, Renegade Mages, Renegade Templars, Qunari and the Tevinter Imperium. So who do you guys think are a threat and why? Thank you for your contributions.

[EmperorKarino]

Demons or Darkspawn is my thoughts, they tend to cause more damage and have no general purpose other than the deaths of others.

[Feybrad]

All Things magical. In General.

 

Seriously. If not for magical things, Thedas would probably be

1) have made serious technological Advancement several hundred Years ago.

2) be much more boring.

 

But since "boring" usually also means "safe" as opposed to "exciting = lots of People at least in mortal Danger" Magic is a Threat.

[Lulupab]

All Things magical. In General.

Seriously. If not for magical things, Thedas would probably be
1) have made serious technological Advancement several hundred Years ago.
2) be much more boring.

But since "boring" usually also means "safe" as opposed to "exciting = lots of People at least in mortal Danger" Magic is a Threat.

There are many universes that have both magic and technology in them and there is no indication those cannot exist together. Thedas just sucks. People want to be like "I'm a fisherman, I fish. I don't care about technology, I don't care about magic, I don't care about anything." With that attitude you are not going anywhere near technological advancements.

Also any real technological advancement made in medieval times (which is the appropriate time to compare to Thedas) happened in countries that separated religion from state. Evidently many countries started going backwards from Rome's advancement until independent states such as Florence rose up and with them people like DA Vinci. As long Thedas is Andrastian expect them to be as backwards as possible.

[FiveThreeTen]

Nugs. Obviously.

[Eveangaline]

There are many universes that have both magic and technology in them and there is no indication those cannot exist together. Thedas just sucks. People want to be like "I'm a fisherman, I fish. I don't care about technology, I don't care about magic, I don't care about anything." With that attitude you are not going anywhere near technological advancements.

Also any real technological advancement made in medieval times (which is the appropriate time to compare to Thedas) happened in countries that separated religion from state. Evidently many countries started going backwards from Rome's advancement until independent states such as Florence rose up and with them people like DA Vinci. As long Thedas is Andrastian expect them to be as backwards as possible.

 

Well, in Europe. Christian nations started going backwards, but Muslim ones went through their cultures major nerd phase "Oh my allah we should build like, every building with crazy intricate math stuff. Lets go conquer areas so we can take their books and knowledge and also spread ours I mean how cool is knowledge man? Lets just collect....all the knowledge. Folklore? Get it. Math and other sciences? Get it. Lets preserve this **** cuz europeans are going kinda nuts right now"

 

there's all sorts of weird jumps and what's dark ages in one area of the world can be a flowering of knowledge in another.

[Dabrikishaw]

Hubris.

[Mistic]

Before Inquisition, I would say the darkspawn. They are hellbent on wiping out any sign of life in Thedas except their own corrupted form. Magical threats like demons and abominations have always been a part of life in Thedas, and more or less they under control (in the sense hurricanes or earthquakes can be under control; you get used to it and prepare emergency measures, but you don't expect to make them disappear).

 

However, the Breach seems to be something that could give even the dakspawn a run for their money. It would be like a event that is causing continuous hurricanes and won't stop until it covers the whole world. Scary.

 

Also any real technological advancement made in medieval times (which is the appropriate time to compare to Thedas) happened in countries that separated religion from state. Evidently many countries started going backwards from Rome's advancement until independent states such as Florence rose up and with them people like DA Vinci. As long Thedas is Andrastian expect them to be as backwards as possible.

 

That is a very, very narrow view on the Middle Ages. Also, I'd like to know what you mean about "countries that separated religion from state". In Europe, for example, there weren't until long after the Middle Ages.

[Saints]

How exactly is the Qunari a threat to Thedas when we have things like Demons and Darkspawn destroying the world?

[DrBlingzle]

Same thing as always.

 

People.

[StrangeStrategy]

Magic. Magic is the cause of the Darkspawn and attracts demons. But that's a cop-out answer, because magic has already happened and it will never go away so there is no sense in whining at it.

 

1st: Darkspawn.

Hordes of savage fearless warriors who infect you with the plague and turn you to their side? Terrifying monsters who are a constant threat to the dwarves, and a threat to everyone else every now and then... when they get a giant corrupted dragon to lead them. Every blight is devastating so they get #1.

2nd: Demons/Mages in General

Every mage is capable of huge destruction. An untrained apostate can burst into a rage demon and slaughter their entire village before the Templars even hear of the attack. They are constantly a 'possible' threat, and good mages are insanely useful; without them we'd never defeat the blights. Just because a few go horribly bad so easily and are so hard to take down, doesn't mean they're the worst thing in the world. Demons are bad; enough said. Whats worse than evil? Intelligent alien evil.

3rd: Tevinter Imperium

Because they're comprised mostly of bad mages and bad people. And they're responsible for magic and darkspawn and demons... so... maybe the ultimate answer is "humans"?

[Neon Rising Winter]

I'm not sure there is a massive threat to the place itself. Threats to the status quo sure, but a threat to the actual place not so much.

 

Qunari, Tevinter, Chantry etc lead to a danger of having a load of monomaniacal whackjobs running the place, but not ending it. Mages and templars have so far completely failed to do anything bar cause massive loss of life, property damage and severe earache. Darkspawn want to take it over, creatures from the fade want to move in, dragons want to - I dunno, flambe passing adventurers in my experience. There seems to be plenty of contests for ownership and management, but that's all. Maybe gods? Gods get to be weird and destroy stuff while still having somewhere to live when they're done.

[myahele]

I certainly agree with OPs list.

Darkspawn are the biggest-looming threat in thedas. Not even demons want to get near thier taint.

Demons are my second choice followed by dragons.

[Lulupab]

Before Inquisition, I would say the darkspawn. They are hellbent on wiping out any sign of life in Thedas except their own corrupted form. Magical threats like demons and abominations have always been a part of life in Thedas, and more or less they under control (in the sense hurricanes or earthquakes can be under control; you get used to it and prepare emergency measures, but you don't expect to make them disappear).
 
However, the Breach seems to be something that could give even the dakspawn a run for their money. It would be like a event that is causing continuous hurricanes and won't stop until it covers the whole world. Scary.
 

 
That is a very, very narrow view on the Middle Ages. Also, I'd like to know what you mean about "countries that separated religion from state". In Europe, for example, there weren't until long after the Middle Ages.

I didn't want to name all the ages, basically up until 17th century was my intentional timeline. Florence or Venice for example didn't rule with religion and for this very reason they were at constant war with papal estate.

[metalfenix]

Darkspawn organized in a blight. They can trump any qunari ofensive, any mage, any templar, almost finished tevinter on the first blight, demons don't do **** against them, neither dragons.

[LostInReverie19]

The Chantry. 

[The Baconer]

At this moment? Probably the demons. Outside of these extraordinary circumstances it's the Darkspawn... like, objectively.

[Icy Magebane]

Darkspawn are the biggest threat, hands down.  The Taint that they carry is destructive to all forms of life and even corrupts land and inanimate objects.  They have no purpose other than to search for the Old Gods, whom they ultimately corrupt and begin a new Blight.  If that wasn't enough, they are immortal unless killed, and so their numbers increase rapidly without being balanced by natural deaths.  The only good thing about darkspawn is that they stay underground for the most part, but even then, that's not so good if you ask the dwarves.

[PsychoBlonde]

We've seen some very interesting topics in this forum, but I always enjoy listening to other peoples opinions on a wide variety of subjects. So who do think are the most dangerous beings to threaten the world? For me I think it's the following.
Darkspawn, Demons, Dragons, Renegade Mages, Renegade Templars, Qunari and the Tevinter Imperium. So who do you guys think are a threat and why? Thank you for your contributions.

"Beings" aren't a threat to Thedas.  One's philosophical approach to dealing with problems is always the real threat, particularly when institutionalized and magnified by a large following.  Since the Qunari are the only people with a fully codified philosophy, they probably constitute the biggest potential long-term threat.  Or not, it really depends on how serious they are about that whole conquering the world thing.

[Maria Caliban]

Also any real technological advancement made in medieval times (which is the appropriate time to compare to Thedas) happened in countries that separated religion from state.

Except 9:40 Dragon akin to 2108 AD.

Thedas has had massive technological, scientific, social, and philosophical stagnation.

[Senya]

There are many universes that have both magic and technology in them and there is no indication those cannot exist together. Thedas just sucks. People want to be like "I'm a fisherman, I fish. I don't care about technology, I don't care about magic, I don't care about anything." With that attitude you are not going anywhere near technological advancements.
Also any real technological advancement made in medieval times (which is the appropriate time to compare to Thedas) happened in countries that separated religion from state. Evidently many countries started going backwards from Rome's advancement until independent states such as Florence rose up and with them people like DA Vinci. As long Thedas is Andrastian expect them to be as backwards as possible.

You forget about the Byzantines. Part of the reason why the Renaissance happened was all the scholars who went to Italy after Constantinople fell.

[Wulfram]

The protagonist.

giant holes in the sky

Intelligent Darkspawn

Blights

The Qunari

[Jukaga]

Nugs. Obviously.

Battle of the Squealing Plains DLC Bioware pls

[X Equestris]

There are many universes that have both magic and technology in them and there is no indication those cannot exist together. Thedas just sucks. People want to be like "I'm a fisherman, I fish. I don't care about technology, I don't care about magic, I don't care about anything." With that attitude you are not going anywhere near technological advancements.
Also any real technological advancement made in medieval times (which is the appropriate time to compare to Thedas) happened in countries that separated religion from state. Evidently many countries started going backwards from Rome's advancement until independent states such as Florence rose up and with them people like DA Vinci. As long Thedas is Andrastian expect them to be as backwards as possible.

In the real world, technology regressed in Western Europe because the barbarian tribes that destroyed the Western Roman Empire also destroyed much of the infrastructure, including things like libraries. In fact, Western Europe probably would have been worse off if it hadn't been for the Church's efforts to preserve knowledge.

The East benefited from intact libraries, which accounted for the advances made by the Byzantines and the Arabs. During the Crusades, copies of these texts were brought back to Europe and contributed to some technological advances. One of the factors that contributed to the start of the Renaissance was the Ottoman conquest of Constantinople, which sent Byzantine scholars running to Italy.

Personally, I think that there are several factors for the lack of technological advancement in Thedas. One is magic. After all, why invent better medical treatments if you have access to healing magic? Why invent gunpowder or cannons if you can have a mage do the same thing? The Qunari are more technologically advanced, and they are very averse to magic. Another thing holding Thedas back is the Darkspawn. If you have hordes of monstrous creatures rampaging across your country, you probably aren't going to be focused on cultural or civil pursuits. That's completely leaving aside the possibility of technologies and ideas being mostly or totally lost, like what happened after Rome fell.

Ultimately, I think the things that are most dangerous to Thedas are magic or magical entities, and the Darkspawn.

[BronzTrooper]

Hmm... in  DA:I?  Probably the demons, considering the current world-state (everything pretty much falling apart while the demons are like, "Oh, hey guys!  We're here to eat you and take over while you kill each other!").

 

Overall?  Darkspawn, hands down.  The reasons why have been stated above.