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[ahsari2014]

Someone posted a topic a few weeks ago. . I do not remember exacttly who it was. I tried to find it but did not succeed. So if you are reading this . The Batarians found a corpse of a genetically engineerd living starship ; The Leviathan of Dis. ( ME-1 . Hades Gamma system. Planet system Dis. Planet name is Jartar ). The Batarians estimated it to be nearly a BILLION years old ? Now you can believe that. I personally do not believe it. I think the Batarians are telling a lie. Why ? I do not know. But think of it ? That means that the Leviathans we traced in ME-3 would have survived for so long or even longer! Maybe with the help of stasis chambers it would be possible. But a BILLION years ......that creeps the hell out of me !!!!

[Terca]

The Leviathan of Dis was a reaper unit that was incapacitated by the Leviathans. The name is just a weird coincidence.

[Jukaga]

The Levis you meet in Leviathan are the progeny of those who came before. What their lifespan is or how many generations have passed they aren't telling.

[ahsari2014]

The reaper unit is a billion years old. That is the astonishing part of the whole story. A billion years ! That is 999.999.999 + 1 million years. 1.000.000.000 years. If this is true then we should fall on our knees and revere the catalyst as the ultimate badass. The one and only God of War. That is a lot of civiazations being destroyed. And because of the catalyst this cycle will now flourish. So that is the positive side of it .

[capn233]

The Leviathan of Dis was a reaper unit that was incapacitated by the Leviathans. The name is just a weird coincidence.

 

 

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Ignoring nods to other sci-fi, the name is likely just because it was a large creature.  Who knows what the Batarian word is, but it got translated to Leviathan.  There really wasn't much in the way of info on it until ME3 and specifically the Leviathan DLC.

 

It is worth reading most of the planet descriptions at some point in most of these games.  And you get to hear Uncharted Worlds, which is pretty relaxing.

[ahsari2014]

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Ignoring nods to other sci-fi, the name is likely just because it was a large creature. Who knows what the Batarian word is, but it got translated to Leviathan. There really wasn't much in the way of info on it until ME3 and specifically the Leviathan DLC.

It is worth reading most of the planet descriptions at some point in most of these games. And you get to hear Uncharted Worlds, which is pretty relaxing.

. The codex also mentioned that there was a Salarian stg team who took pictures of that Reaper. Yes it is a reapership. In ME-3 Balak talks about how the indoctrinated Batarian scientist betrayed the Batarians. So he confirms that it is a reaper. And these Batarian scientists were investigating that reapership.

[ahsari2014]

 
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Ignoring nods to other sci-fi, the name is likely just because it was a large creature.  Who knows what the Batarian word is, but it got translated to Leviathan.  There really wasn't much in the way of info on it until ME3 and specifically the Leviathan DLC.
 
It is worth reading most of the planet descriptions at some point in most of these games.  And you get to hear Uncharted Worlds, which is pretty relaxing.

. Leviathan is another word for giant according to google translation. And that is a nice picture of Moya. From my favourite sf serie.

[Farangbaa]

. Leviathan is another word for giant according to google translation. And that is a nice picture of Moya. From my favourite sf serie.

 

It's a sea monster from the the Tanakh (Old Testament)

[ahsari2014]

It's a sea monster from the the Tanakh (Old Testament)

. Well The Leviathans of me-3 are seacreatures . So yeah i understand . But it also suppose to be a big giant creature.

[zen zix]

In ME2 when the crew finds out the collector home world is in the center of the galaxy the squad mates think EDI had a glitch but paragon shep tells them it's possible because the reapers are billionS of years more advanced than them. However, they really don't seem to be billions of years old. I think an explanation is the reapers stopped advancing after a point where their current state was efficient enough for harvesting.  

[capn233]

. The codex also mentioned that there was a Salarian stg team who took pictures of that Reaper. Yes it is a reapership. In ME-3 Balak talks about how the indoctrinated Batarian scientist betrayed the Batarians. So he confirms that it is a reaper. And these Batarian scientists were investigating that reapership.

 

All of that happens in ME3.  In ME1 it was hinted that it might be a reaper, although it wasn't confirmed to be one, nor was it even confirmed to actually exist.  I would agree that in the first game it hints at a reaper, or at the least a race that was destroyed by the reapers.

 

When the first game the backstory for the Reapers were likely going to be somewhat different and there was no idea of the Star Child.

[ahsari2014]

Hmmm. Let's assume that the Batarians did not lie about the age. To me a billion years of existing is just mindblowing. Or a billion years of harvesting. It's too much. I can handle a hundred million years. That was my estimate . And at the other side it may not be true. Maybe Shepard is just using a billion years as an exageration . I somehow sense that many players are just ok with the one billion year of harvesting.

[KrrKs]

AFAIK the billion years estimate (which is really mindblowing if it were true) comes from the Jartar planet description, and was the initial age estimate.

I'd headcanon that this estimate (likely based on geological estimates of the surrounding area) was severely skewed by either the/a reaper attack or the force that killed the reaper in the first place (which was not necessarily a "pulse", like the ones used on Desponia).

[ahsari2014]

Ofcourse. The billion years is just SHOCKING. I guess we never know. The Catalyst is most evil. I figured how many civilazations where harvested. Then i realised i made a huge mistake. A billion is is what we here in Holland and i guess Europe call a miljard . You see one billion as 10 x hundred million= one billion. 1.000.000.000. A billion in Holland is. 1.000.000.000.000. So that is one thousand billion. And that number is one trillion for you. So that is why a was so shocked. But still one billion is a long time.

[cap and gown]

This "billion year old" leviathan was symptomatic of a core problem in the initial game, and the subsequent ones: the need to make every thing so outsized as to seem truly awesome, when all it does it cause a suspension of disbelief. If that reaper was a billion years old, there would be no reason to think that whatever killed it was still around. Even if descendents of whatever killed it were still around, evolution would have so changed them over the course of a billion years that they would be nothing at all like whatever existed back then. Life on Earth is only a few hundred million years old. The same problem arises with how outsized powerful and big the Reapers are. Let's make Sovereign two kilometers long to make it seem really intimidating. Great. Now how do we fit that into a game where we have to kill things with hand weapons? Ashley worries that an infantryman like herself will have no place in a war against the Reapers. I always have to assure her that when push comes to shove, whatever enemy we face in the ME universe can be defeated with a rifle. And sure enough, Sovereign is defeated by shooting a dead Turian he takes over.

 

The writers here want to throw around numbers for their emotional impact regardless of whether they make any sense. Like Krogan having 1000 children in a clutch. The problem is, it loses all its impact when these number simply defy belief.

[BloodyMares]

When the first game the backstory for the Reapers were likely going to be somewhat different and there was no idea of the Star Child.

 

What is the 'Being of Light' (Klencory description) then? 

[ahsari2014]

What is the 'Being of Light' (Klencory description) then?

. The Catalyst Did not make first appearance in the galaxy when we encountered him. He acts so innocent. The little cheater.

[ahsari2014]

This "billion year old" leviathan was symptomatic of a core problem in the initial game, and the subsequent ones: the need to make every thing so outsized as to seem truly awesome, when all it does it cause a suspension of disbelief. If that reaper was a billion years old, there would be no reason to think that whatever killed it was still around. Even if descendents of whatever killed it were still around, evolution would have so changed them over the course of a billion years that they would be nothing at all like whatever existed back then. Life on Earth is only a few hundred million years old. The same problem arises with how outsized powerful and big the Reapers are. Let's make Sovereign two kilometers long to make it seem really intimidating. Great. Now how do we fit that into a game where we have to kill things with hand weapons? Ashley worries that an infantryman like herself will have no place in a war against the Reapers. I always have to assure her that when push comes to shove, whatever enemy we face in the ME universe can be defeated with a rifle. And sure enough, Sovereign is defeated by shooting a dead Turian he takes over.
 
The writers here want to throw around numbers for their emotional impact regardless of whether they make any sense. Like Krogan having 1000 children in a clutch. The problem is, it loses all its impact when these number simply defy belief.

. I have to share this. In my very first ME-1 i did shoot Sovereign with my gun. And using biotic powers. I thought it was unbelievable stupid to do that. What the hell are these developers thinking. I did take Sovereign down. Or so i thought i did. It was ofcourse the Alliance. In the second playtrough i found out that you have powerup thse three canons.

[Farangbaa]

. I have to share this. In my very first ME-1 i did shoot Sovereign with my gun. And using biotic powers. I thought it was unbelievable stupid to do that. What the hell are these developers thinking. I did take Sovereign down. Or so i thought i did. It was ofcourse the Alliance. In the second playtrough i found out that you have powerup thse three canons.

That's not Sovereign, but a Geth dropship.

lol

[ahsari2014]

That's not Sovereign, but a Geth dropship.lol

. Ok really ? That is dent in Shepard's reputation. Well i am finishing me-1 tonight.

[ahsari2014]

That's not Sovereign, but a Geth dropship.lol

. Yes indeed that is a geth dropship. I watched it sevel times over the years but i was to busy killing Geth . Well it just didn't leave an imprint in my memory.

[Big T]

1 billion years with one Capitol Reaper every cycle would be 20,000 reapers.

[Obadiah]

This "billion year old" leviathan was symptomatic of a core problem in the initial game, and the subsequent ones: the need to make every thing so outsized as to seem truly awesome, when all it does it cause a suspension of disbelief.
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I saw these things more along the lines of: stretching our conceptions of the possible.

[ahsari2014]

Let's assume there are 10 civilazations per 50000 years. Technological advanced civilazations. And 10 is a minimum. So we have 200 civilazations per million years. 2000 civilazations per 10 million years. 20.000 civilazations per 100 million. 200.000 civilazations per one billion years. At least 200.000 civilazations eradicated . That means 200.000 planets where they originated from. Lets assume every civilazation colonised 10 planets for living or extraction for raw materials. So that makes 110 planets per 50.000 years. 2200 planets per one million years. 22.000 planets per ten million years. 222.000 planets per 100 million years . 2.222.000 planets per one billion years. That is impressive. However on a galactic scale, 2.222.000 planets is a small number. Scientists estimate that our galaxy has 100 billion stars. Maybe more. And an enourmess amount of planets. Between 500 and 1000 billion. Mindblowing isn't it ?