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[TheChris92]

So there's some news on these two well-known blokes doing the next Silent Hill -- As a fan of the Team Silent titles I'll say that I'm skeptical. It also stars some berk from the Walking Dead series, which isn't encouraging from my point of view. Kojima's pretentiousness and westernization of his games is well-established and he's no master of horror and Del Toro is not a game-developer. The last couple of games, from western developers, couldn't have missed the point any further if they fired in a different direction and the point was in another country altogether.

 

But, anyway, here it is!

[Mister Sunshine]

Watch the demo that came out on PS4 and tell me you're not excited.

[ZeroPhoenix94]

What's wrong with Norman Reedus?

 

Anyway, the demo looked pretty damn good.

[mybudgee]

Del Toro is the pimp of genre cinema

[TheChris92]

It didn't look like a Silent Hill game to me. Teasers tends to be deserving of skepticism especially when it is Silent Hill.
What's wrong with him is that he's from that godawful tv-show, and I'd prefer keeping hollywood and their elaborate starlets and pretentiousness as far away from game development as possible.

[President of Boom]

Sure, I got burned. I got burned bad by Homecoming and Origins, but right now my Playstation-loving, Silent-Hill-worshipping inner child is soiling itself while hyperventilating.

[Aurawolf]

Del Toro is a very creative guy and he is a person who like quality. Have some faith it sounds like some decent people are involved.

[Khayness]

So, what exactly is the problem with "western horror"?

 

It's more gory than scary.

[metalfenix]

My hype level is over 9000 right now.....I may even get a PS4 just for a Silent Hill.

[TheChris92]

Del Toro is a very creative guy and he is a person who like quality. Have some faith it sounds like some decent people are involved.

I love his films (that is to say, Pan's Labyrinth while everything else was a big pile of mediocrity) not his games - Del Toro making a game is like the Coen Brothers doing a Tv-Documentary or David Lynch writing a book without the usual dosage of surrealism. It's out of their element.

[HellaciousHutch]

It's a reboot of the series, so I wouldn't expect it to look 100% similar to old Silent Hill entries. 

 

Also. The interactive teaser isn't a representation (at all, they tell you this) of what the game will look like, other than maybe the part that the player can't control at the end with the main character walking through the town before introducing the title.

[Shepenwepet]

I haven't seen the interactive bit, but I saw the Norman Reedus/Silent Hills reveal.

I guess Konami saw what a huge hit that Walking Dead: Survival Instinct was and decided they had to get a piece of that pie. Or something. 

Yeah, I don't think Reedus is a good fit. I wonder how much money was spent on him... money that could have gone elsewhere. Like to Akira Yamaoka, even if he isn't involved in the project in any way. (I heard the SH theme at the end, did they use his stuff in trailers for Downpour? Or am I just grasping at straws here?)

 

At any rate, I really, really want to believe that this will turn out to be something worth playing. I know the days of Team Silent are over, but I'm sure these guys can do better than Homecoming and the glitchy mess that was Downpour.

 

...right?

[TheChris92]

Silent HIll series doesn't need a reboot -- What it needs is to be buried peacefully, and then there's room for trying something else instead of desperately trying to live up to Team Silent's gems like SH2.

[Naughty Bear]

what demo?

[TheChris92]

what demo?

The one titled "PT" which they were talking about in the press conference yesterday.

[Naughty Bear]

if Reedus is the same character as he was in WD, a hillbilly bad boy, I'd kill myself.

[Clover Rider]

Reedus has worked with Guillermo del Toro before so I don't think it's just Walking Dead fame that got him this role.

 

He is also a pretty cool dude actually but I will wait and see how he does with this.

 

Same for the game who knows if it will be good or not.

[TheChris92]

Western horror avoids subtlety and atmosphere for torture violence and straight up gore -- Silent Hill 2 understood the concepts of its predecessor and what made a great horror game. The true sense of dread of being totally alone in a seemingly abandoned town, where even the few residents you actually meet seem hollow, empty and act in odd ways, almost as if they are not seeing the same things you are. Western horror's usual tendency to horror is to shoo-horn a love interest into the picture, an occasional whacky black men side character spouting racial stereotypes, with a story straight out of a B-movie. The western developers misunderstood the whole concept of the town, how it works, and why the monsters appear the way they do -- This teaser doesn't speak Silent Hill to me, it feels more or less like another attempt of doing something like Amnesia, which had the atmosphere going, but not the combat or anything else to balance it out to the point where the entire game became tedious and predictable.

Silent Hill is done as far I'm concerned but I'd like to see a new horror game that can actually manage to feel like a true survival horror game. I have a good feeling about that Fatal Frame successor for the Wii-U

[Clover Rider]

Yeah Wii U Fatal Frame looks good. It better come out over here.

[AVPen]

Haven't finished the PT demo yet.... but I already sh*t quite a few bricks while playing it   Insanely good horror game as it was and it's just a fricken' teaser demo to reveal the actual game - definitely can't wait to see what Kojima and Del Toro produce from this.

 

Western horror avoids subtlety and atmosphere for torture violence and straight up gore -- Silent Hill 2 understood the concepts of its predecessor and what made a great horror game. The true sense of dread of being totally alone in a seemingly abandoned town, where even the few residents you actually meet seem hollow, empty and act in odd ways, almost as if they are not seeing the same things you are. Western horror's usual tendency to horror is to shoo-horn a love interest into the picture, an occasional whacky black men side character spouting racial stereotypes, with a story straight out of a B-movie. The western developers misunderstood the whole concept of the town, how it works, and why the monsters appear the way they do -- This teaser doesn't speak Silent Hill to me, it feels more or less like another attempt of doing something like Amnesia, which had the atmosphere going, but not the combat or anything else to balance it out to the point where the entire game became tedious and predictable.

Are you talking about "Western horror" as it pertains to just video games or "Western horror" as it's presented in all media including movies, video games, etc?

 

Reason I ask is because:

A. I've seen plenty of incredible Western horror works in addition to plenty of crappy Eastern horror works (and vice versa)

B. You do realize that the Silent Hill series, especially those first few games, took a HUGE amount of inspiration from the Western horror film "Jacob's Ladder", right?

[TheClonesLegacy]

After Downpour and Homecoming this series needed a reboot. BAD.

Kojima and Del Toro are both talented guys. I can see this going well.

 

And as far as leads go, Norman Reedus is a good actor, and is popular with people familiar with AMCs Walking Dead and The Boondock Saints. Survival Instincts problems had less to do with Reedus and more to do with this...

So I wouldn't count it against him.