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New gamescom Trailer! meet the Elder One, Hawke, and NOT the Hero of ferelden!?


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#251
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Ugh.

 

Why is everyone freaking out? It was already heavily implied that the Inquisitor would cross paths with Hawke and either the Warden or their successor. I'm much more worried/annoyed now by the idea of them being in the game but my not being able to set their appearances.

 

And sheesh - it's not a mystery why the Warden is not the Hero of Ferelden. The trailer is showing the canon/generic versions of Hawke and "the Warden". Hence, "our" Warden is replaced by some blonde dude, because "our" Warden died sacrificing themself at the end of DA:O. It would be pretty stupid for that to be the canon ending, and then have a trailer where the Warden actually appeared. They're dead, remember? Mike's comment about the trailer Warden not being "the" Warden isn't some massive enigma, he's just being consistent with the concept that "the" Warden is dead.



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Let's all remember that the dialogue is probably stitched together from multiple places in the game and may not even be applicable in the context we can see.
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#253
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*purple option* Merrill did it. I just helped.  ^_^

 

I know, i just can't bring him self to retcon my first playthrough. 



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Let's all remember that the dialogue is probably stitched together from multiple places in the game and may not even be applicable in the context we can see.

Exactly David Gaider even said so here

 

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#255
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This was a truly excellent trailer!  :o



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Oh my God!! Anyways, I like the shot where the Inquisitor and the Dragon have some kind of connection. I wonder if my Reaver will get some kind of extra scene with the dragon.



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Let's all remember that the dialogue is probably stitched together from multiple places in the game and may not even be applicable in the context we can see.

 

As much as I am here I wish I put a "good quotes" together since that's exactly what some developers have said. These trailers get put together delibertly out of context to try and avoid spoilers.

 

Sure some of us might get right on occasion but well when it rains a duck might get wet. 


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First thing I did after I watched the trailer was check twitter to see if it was the Hero of Ferelden.

Second thing I did was lean back in my chair and wonder how the fans were going to react to seeing a Grey Warden besides Hawke and then learn it isn't their Warden.

I understand the marketing behind it... I just wonder if the outrage I have seen on the forums was worth the three second shot of the Warden or if it would have been easier to show Hawke and allow the fans to speculate. 


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First thing I did after I watched the trailer was check twitter to see if it was the Hero of Ferelden.

Second thing I did was lean back in my chair and wonder how the fans were going to react to seeing a Grey Warden besides Hawke and then learn it isn't their Warden.

I understand the marketing behind it... I just wonder if the outrage I have seen on the forums was worth the three second shot of the Warden or if it would have been easier to show Hawke and allow the fans to speculate. 

 

I highly doubt it's a random warden.

 

My theory is that they use the default DA3 which most likely has Hawke as a mage female and the Origins Warden a dalish elf that died.



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Ugh.

 

Why is everyone freaking out? It was already heavily implied that the Inquisitor would cross paths with Hawke and either the Warden or their successor. I'm much more worried/annoyed now by the idea of them being in the game but my not being able to set their appearances.

 

It seems you can set their appearances. Possibly in the beginning of the game, when you choose to set your world states and stuff. There's probably an option: "Do you want to customize the appearance of the Warden/Hawke?"



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Ugh.

 

Why is everyone freaking out? It was already heavily implied that the Inquisitor would cross paths with Hawke and either the Warden or their successor. I'm much more worried/annoyed now by the idea of them being in the game but my not being able to set their appearances.

 

And sheesh - it's not a mystery why the Warden is not the Hero of Ferelden. The trailer is showing the canon/generic versions of Hawke and "the Warden". Hence, "our" Warden is replaced by some blonde dude, because "our" Warden died sacrificing themself at the end of DA:O. It would be pretty stupid for that to be the canon ending, and then have a trailer where the Warden actually appeared. They're dead, remember? Mike's comment about the trailer Warden not being "the" Warden isn't some massive enigma, he's just being consistent with the concept that "the" Warden is dead.

 

 

None of my Warders are dead.


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I really hope the Big Bad isn't another ****** dragon.



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None of my Warders is dead.

In the default state of the world Heroine of Ferelden is dead, ahem 

 

Though Hawke is also male. This kind of made me nervous but then I realised that showing all/almost-all major PCs from DA games (so far) and keeping them all male would be seen in a bad light by the community. So they made Hawke a chick

Hmm, I wonder who did she romance? If she supported the mages... then likely Anders. Geez, what fun it had to be, Anders, Hawke and the Orlesian Warden who hired Anders into the Greys all sitting together and keeping an awkward silence



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May be totally off the mark, but am wondering if that other guy is a Fade form of Sandal.
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adding this to the OP.

 

 

More Transcript! (a lot of it)

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#266
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In the default state of the world Heroine of Ferelden is dead, ahem 

 

Though Hawke is also male. This kind of made me nervous but then I realised that showing all/almost-all major PCs from DA games (so far) and keeping them all male would be seen in a bad light by the community. So they made Hawke a chick

Hmm, I wonder who did she romance? If she supported the mages... then likely Anders. Geez, what fun it had to be, Anders, Hawke and the Orlesian Warden who hired Anders into the Greys all sitting together and keeping an awkward silence

 

It sort of ruins the point of putting your world state if they just use their canon, don't you think



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It sort of ruins the point of putting your world state if they just use their canon, don't you think

 

They use their canon in the trailers... you don't actually think they'd use their canon in our own games, do you? When it comes to Hawke and the Warden.


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I wonder if we played the last gen version(360/PS3) of this game with imported saves would Hawke appear as the one we created. That would be interesting also alittle frustrating for those who made the move to next gen/current gen primarily. PC users shouldn't be effected by this at all.



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I wonder if we played the last gen version(360/PS3) of this game with imported saves would Hawke appear as the one we created. That would be interesting also alittle frustrating for those who made the move to next gen/current gen primarily. PC users shouldn't be effected by this at all.

 

Umm... I don't think save importing is going to happen. Remember, we have the Dragon Age Keep, in which we can insert our choices made in previous games to carry over into DA:I. Now, the Keep has been said to not come with a Character Creator, so we can't put our Hawke's and Warden's appearance in there. Though, because the devs have said that they will give us the option to customize our Hawke's and possibly Warden's respective appearances if they appear in Inquisition, we can assume that said customization will be available in the game itself and thus not in the Keep.

 

Ultimately that means that switching platforms should have no repercussions at all in that department.



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While we wont have a character creator in the dragon age keep that does not mean that we wont be able to customize how hawke looks. it could be a Character selector where we choose a preset that looks the most like our hawke ( similar to the character creator on KOTOR2). or we could upload portraits similar to what we can do with the BSN and it tries to make a hawke that looks as much like it as possible. The first one is far more likely in my opinion.



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Loved the music in the trailer.


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Orly.

 

Such as?

 

 

no A, B, or C, significant differences in the ending, meaningful choices, great storytelling.....



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A potentially clever way to customize Hawke/Warden's personality would be to define it in talks with Leliana and Varric.

 

So the topic of the Warden comes up and you ask Leliana what was he really like? She asks, well what have you heard? And then you can pick some wheel choices to sculpt a general feel for the personality. Obviously this would be more effective for Hawke than the Warden, since DA2 was more based in having a dominant tone than DAO. It's not perfect, but since I doubt they'll let us pick Hawke/Warden's dialogue it might be the next best thing, and definitely better than just having one generic "personality" for each. That is, assuming there's no Keep choices for things like that.



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Personality and things like that will likely be covered in the Keep. Hawkes personality is a single question: blue, purple, or red?



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Umm... I don't think save importing is going to happen. Remember, we have the Dragon Age Keep, in which we can insert our choices made in previous games to carry over into DA:I. Now, the Keep has been said to not come with a Character Creator, so we can't put our Hawke's and Warden's appearance in there. Though, because the devs have said that they will give us the option to customize our Hawke's and possibly Warden's respective appearances if they appear in Inquisition, we can assume that said customization will be available in the game itself and thus not in the Keep.

 

Ultimately that means that switching platforms should have no repercussions at all in that department.

You can save import on the last gen consoles Dragon Age keep was created for the sole purpose of creating world states for the new gen/current gen consoles. They even tried experimenting with the idea of implementing importing old save files into DA Keep from last gen files.