Obviously, the Warden is Bob, my pizza delivery guy.
Times are tough for some, especially the Warden who has had to take a second job delivering pizza's to make ends meet. Hey, weapons and armor aren't cheap and with demons on the loose, Bob is going to need them.
Obviously, the Warden is Bob, my pizza delivery guy.
Has it occurred to anyone else that maybe the blonde warden is just a generic, no-name Grey Warden? I admit, it would be a little misleading to put a redshirt in Warden armor next to Hawke, but it's not like Hawke can only stand beside important people. Maybe we're all just jumping to conclusions here?
Has it occurred to anyone else that maybe the blonde warden is just a generic, no-name Grey Warden? I admit, it would be a little misleading to put a redshirt in Warden armor next to Hawke, but it's not like Hawke can only stand beside important people. Maybe we're all just jumping to conclusions here?
Let me see... The Inquisitor, the Hawke and a random warden Bob are going to have an epic fight against some boss monster...Has it occurred to anyone else that maybe the blonde warden is just a generic, no-name Grey Warden? I admit, it would be a little misleading to put a redshirt in Warden armor next to Hawke, but it's not like Hawke can only stand beside important people. Maybe we're all just jumping to conclusions here?
omfg. I'm so late but ..*makes hand gestures to express great excitement*
Sorry, but that isn't my canon pizza delivery guy. Mine is a thirty-something male named Dereck. It's him or nothing for me.
Man, you people and your memorizing pizza delivery people. I usually order from random pizza joints that mostly have Joe in its name. The only thing I remember from the guys that deliver it are the reflective safety vests and the scooters they ride on.
Let me see... The Inquisitor, the Hawke and a random warden Bob are going to have an epic fight against some boss monster...
Nah, I don't think so
YMMV, but I got the impression they were about to run the hell away from that thing, not fight it. I mean, did you see the size of it?
Man, you people and your memorizing pizza delivery people. I usually order from random pizza joints that mostly have Joe in its name. The only thing I remember from the guys that deliver it are the reflective safety vests and the scooters they ride on.
YMMV, but I got the impression they were about to run the hell away from that thing, not fight it. I mean, did you see the size of it?
As if they have a choice
Has it occurred to anyone else that maybe the blonde warden is just a generic, no-name Grey Warden? I admit, it would be a little misleading to put a redshirt in Warden armor next to Hawke, but it's not like Hawke can only stand beside important people. Maybe we're all just jumping to conclusions here?
It's entirely possible - but hey, jumping to conclusions can be fun!
Besides, even a generic Grey Warden is going to be important to the story - the Wardens are still few in number in Ferelden, and in Orlais they're considerably more powerful, so either way he's a member of an important order and will probably have at least a name. Plus, considering that Hawke was involved in Warden business throughout DA2 but never became a Warden herself (and if her clothing is anything to go by, hasn't become one in the intervening three years), it argues that whatever brings her and this specific dude running to the side of the Inquisitor without anyone else means that the Warden dude is significant somehow.
I'm leaning toward the idea that others have put forth about him being the Orlesian Warden Commander of Vigil's Keep; it would make sense and I honestly think it would be a fascinating direction to go with the story. I may actually play a "default world state" playthrough just to see it!
Has it occurred to anyone else that maybe the blonde warden is just a generic, no-name Grey Warden? I admit, it would be a little misleading to put a redshirt in Warden armor next to Hawke, but it's not like Hawke can only stand beside important people. Maybe we're all just jumping to conclusions here?
Yes, I said as much pages ago...I was subsequently ignored while Chari went on the "Its' the Orelsia Warden from Awakening" spiel in every thread...
Let me see... The Inquisitor, the Hawke and a random warden Bob are going to have an epic fight against some boss monster...
Nah, I don't think so
Yes, I said as much pages ago...I was subsequently ignored while Chari went on the "Its' the Orelsia Warden from Awakening" spiel in every thread...
And why is it so implausible?
Cuz you showed no proof or any convincing speech, duh. Me, though, I tried to find a logical explanation and thankfully people agreed with me
Any writer, artist, game designer etc knows some basic rules of how to make a tense scene, how to make a badass scene, cool scene, cute scene. There are specific rules and tropes people follow because they work.
This is battle against some epic boss, the biggest spider in the game (and somehow in the Fade, too?). We have the Inquisitor and the Hawke, two PCs who changed the world. The return of any PC is epic enough and demands special effects, special scene, special music and special everything to show their importance (and all three PCs of DA series changed the world, as said by devs), their badassness, their fanfavvourite status. Making some random unimportant warden wouldn't be just illogical from the story point of view (seriously, unless this is a new form of Corypheus) but also a terrible bummer from "rule-of-cool" point of view
You wanna make everyone tremble with excitement? Give it everything you've got, not just some random NPC who is not important at all. If you were right, logically there would be no any other NPC whatsoever. Just Hawke and Inquisitor and that would be enough. Random NPCs either take away the coolness, or die... too easily which also takes away the coolness
So, either this random Warden is a super cool important NPC (and I doubt that since majority of unique NPCs also have unqiue appearance, that's the rule of catching attention) or this is Orlesian Warden
The thing that really bother me is the different quality of the textures. I mean, the Warden's armor is fantastic, but his face (and Hawke's) looks like it has been pasted on with photoshop. Of course it isn't the case, since it's a screenshot from a trailer clip, but that's the sensation I get every time I look at that picture.
The thing that really bother me is the different quality of the textures. I mean, the Warden's armor is fantastic, but his face (and Hawke's) looks like it has been pasted on with photoshop. Of course it isn't the case, since it's a screenshot from a trailer clip, but that's the sensation I get every time I look at that picture.
Yeah. Probably because just like the Inquisitor's face we can customise them, hence the quality depends on how much work is done in CC
I for one actually hope the Orlesian Warden takes the place of the Warden Commander in Inquisition if he's dead. But I'm one of the few people who actually made one to begin with...
I for one actually hope the Orlesian Warden takes the place of the Warden Commander in Inquisition if he's dead. But I'm one of the few people who actually made one to begin with...
Well, it makes the most sense. Technically, even if we didn't play DA:A, it happened... hmm, I guess then we'll either have a default one or customise them too?
Looks like BioWare dug deep into the Lovecraftian side for the monsters. I approve.
Cuz you showed no proof or any convincing speech, duh. Me, though, I tried to find a logical explanation and thankfully people agreed with me
Any writer, artist, game designer etc knows some basic rules of how to make a tense scene, how to make a badass scene, cool scene, cute scene. There are specific rules and tropes people follow because they work.
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The convincing speech I have is Laidlaw stating that this is not the Warden from Origins. The Orlesian Warden is still from Origins since Awakening is NOT an entirely separate new game (a la DA2) but an expansion pack for Origins.
Awakening is not titled Dragon Age: Awakening or Dragon Age 2.
Instead it is titled Dragon Age: ORIGINS (please note the emphasis on Origins) - Awakening.
It doesn't matter that Laidlaw didn't specify that it is not the Orlesian Warden since they are in effect the same.
The convincing speech I have is Laidlaw stating that this is not the Warden from Origins. The Orlesian Warden is still from Origins since Awakening is NOT an entirely separate new game (a la DA2) but an expansion pack for Origins.
Awakening is not titled Dragon Age: Awakening or Dragon Age 2.
Instead it is titled Dragon Age: ORIGINS (please note the emphasis on Origins) - Awakening.
It doesn't matter that Laidlaw didn't specify that it is not the Orlesian Warden since they are in effect the same.
They also called that Warden the Her of Ferelden. Only one PC can get this title and this is the Warden from DA:O who can later appear in DA:A. But not the Orlesian Warden who appears only in DA:A. He/she is never can be called the Hero of Ferelden
They also called that Warden the Her of Ferelden. Only one PC can get this title and this is the Warden from DA:O who can later appear in DA:A. But not the Orlesian Warden who appears only in DA:A. He/she is never can be called the Hero of Ferelden
Yes, but that is a minor technicality.
Awakening = Origins. Warden = Hero of Ferelden = Orlesian Warden.
Of course we know that the Orlesian Warden is not actually the Hero of Ferelden, but they are still from Origins. Thus making the Warden next to Hawke not the Orlesian Warden.
Yes, but that is a minor technicality.
Awakening = Origins. Warden = Hero of Ferelden = Orlesian Warden.
Of course we know that the Orlesian Warden is not actually the Hero of Ferelden, but they are still from Origins. Thus making the Warden next to Hawke not the Orlesian Warden.
Here
http://dragonage.wik...ero_of_Ferelden
There is only one Hero/ine of Fereldan. And this is not the Orlesian Warden, she/he can't be HoF
Yes, but that is a minor technicality.
Awakening = Origins. Warden = Hero of Ferelden = Orlesian Warden.
Of course we know that the Orlesian Warden is not actually the Hero of Ferelden, but they are still from Origins. Thus making the Warden next to Hawke not the Orlesian Warden.
Nomenclature doesn't proove that he can't be the Orlesian Warden. I'm sure Mark meant it was not the Hero of Ferelden.
Here
http://dragonage.wik...ero_of_Ferelden
There is only one Hero/ine of Fereldan. And this is not the Orlesian Warden, she/he can't be HoF
I see you got stuck on the equation I developed and not it's description underneath it.
Nomenclature doesn't proove that he can't be the Orlesian Warden. I'm sure Mark meant it was not the Hero of Ferelden.
Perhaps, but since you are not Mike Laidlaw (the intrepid tweeter) we can never be sure what he meant.
We can of course read into it as such, but since he may believe Awakening = Origins then we can never be sure.
However, we can attempt to deconstruct Patrick Weekes' tweet where he responded with an image claiming SPOILERS when asked the question. Unfortunately, it is almost as unreliable as Laidlaw's tweet as Weekes' could have had any number of intents with it.
Overall, I just enjoy seeing how Chari designs his/her arguments when I disagree with him/her, as well as my general belief that it leads to more disappointment if you try to read too much into things.
Edit: Fixed some wording issues.
Modifié par Dermain, 14 août 2014 - 11:38 .
It's a little confusing. It would have been a easier to interpret if he'd said "Dragon Age: Origins" instead of just "Origins". It can definitely be said that the word covers both games.
At the same time, generally DA:O is called "Origins" while the expansion is simply called "Awakening". We don't really refer to both of them as "Origins".
And as Chari says, we know that the Orlesian Warden PC is not the Hero of Ferelden, and he did specifically state Hero of Ferelden. A plus that we also know the default Hero is dead, meaning the Awakening PC is Orlesian by default.
So... yeah. I'm personally leaning toward that being the Orlesian Warden PC. I don't expect them to clarify since it seems intended to be somewhat ambiguous. I feel confident that if Hawke returns, we'll see the Warden as well.
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