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#126
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It's been confirmed on Twitter that IF they come back, you'll be able to customize them.

can I see that please

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Then he would also mention it, wouldn't he?

Look at his tweets

 

Not a single mention of DA:O:A

We have no proof of either version, but I'll keep hoping

I see no reason why they would add Hawke, give a chance to customise her/him yet ignore the Warden

Because the warden was blank protagonist (was completely up to player)  unlike hawke who had only 3 possible personalities and defined character traits?



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I don't mind the canon Hawke appearance but if we can't customize their appearance I would prefer the wardens face to be covered and to just emphasise that it's the warden from DAO.



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can I see that please

 

It's on page 3...

 

But since you asked so nicely...

 

https://twitter.com/...481119927320577

 

IF we were going to have one of your previous characters appear, we would absolutely give you a chance to change his or her look.



#130
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Maaaaaaaybeeeeee.

It looks so much like anders to me.



#131
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Female Hawke looks sooooo adorable. Like. :wub: I still want to customize my Wardens/Hawkes, though.

 

Edit: Damn. :( No HoF? I'm still holding out hope for the Warden! I held out this long, I can do so until release! ;__;


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So they actually went through with that terrible idea?



#133
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...sigh...

 

Perhaps they did not add the Warden because the Warden does not speak? Like at all? Ever? Seeing as the Orelsian Warden shared the same characteristics...

 

It is far easier to add in Hawke, who had a voice throughout the entirety of DA2.

 

Of course this disregards my original point that Awakening is Origins. Awakening is no different than DA2's Legacy/Mark of the Assassin. Whether you call it an expansion or an add-on it is still ORIGINS.

 

As such there is NO justifiable reason to claim otherwise since it is NOT considered an entirely separate game by the developers. If it was we would have got Awakening instead of DA2.

 

 

 

Appreciated.

So what? 

Do we even need to talk to the Warden? No

All we need to see them in the game doing something

Like walking, breathing, fighting, leaving

A dialogue is not obligatory 

We know that Hawke will appear, we can desgin them

Meaning that the game engine allows it, meaning we can also redesign the Warden

So I see no reason why they wouldn't add the Warden as well, helping us to defeat the monster and then leaving without a single word spoken. If we can play as Commander Shepard, Hawke and the Warden without ever hearing anyone using our first name, we can live through this small cameo scene



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It looks so much like anders to me.

 

So from Warden to Alistair to Anders...

 

Well I guess that's progression...  :rolleyes:

So they actually went through with that terrible idea?

 

Well they could have just killed them off screen, but I have a feeling you would have disliked that as well.

 

 

So what? 

Do we even need to talk to the Warden? No

All we need to see them in the game doing something

Like walking, breathing, fighting, leaving

A dialogue is not obligatory 

We know that Hawke will appear, we can desgin them

Meaning that the game engine allows it, meaning we can also redesign the Warden

So I see no reason why they wouldn't add the Warden as well, helping us to defeat the monster and then leaving without a single word spoken. If we can play as Commander Shepard, Hawke and the Warden without ever hearing anyone using our first name, we can live through this small cameo scene

 
I never said they would not have the Warden.
 
I have said that the warden standing next to Hawke is NOT the Warden from Origins (as has Laidlaw) as well as not the Orlesian Warden since that is covered under Origins.
 
Will they have the Warden from Origins?
 
Possibly, but that is not the playable Warden(s) from Origins.


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Because the warden was blank protagonist (was completely up to player)  unlike hawke who had only 3 possible personalities and defined character traits?

I'm pretty sure we won't have long conversations with either of them and see these rich "defined" personalities

Hello - help - thanks for help - goodbye

At best



#136
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1: No Warden? Lame. Female Hawke? Lame as well.
2:People argumenting against future references or appearance of the Warden because their flamboyant, transgendered, lipstick wearing Dornish Elf Warden sacrificed his sad existance to save Ferelden and it'd go against their IMMERSHUN - is lame as well.

 

Labeled to make it easier to reply to.

 

1: It was never stated that the Warden would not be in DAI. It has been stated that the Warden is not in the latest trailer. What is the issue with female Hawke exactly?

 

2: What? Oh right, trolling...disregard this post then.  :rolleyes:


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I'm pretty sure we won't have long conversations with either of them and see these rich "defined" personalities

Hello - help - thanks for help - goodbye

At best

They already said if they will involve them it won't be simple for cameo only for bigger role.

Not mention if that was my warden that would already destroy way i played him as that warden in trailer was wearing warden armor when my warden left them.



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They already said if they will involve them it won't be simple for cameo only for bigger role.

Not mention if that was my warden that would already destroy way i played him as that warden in trailer was wearing warden armor when my warden left them.

Epilogues often got retconned, some weren't but they'll happen in some future which isn't "now"/DA:I

So there is still hope, hope, hope

I mean, my first name means hope so ****** it all, I'll keep hoping



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So they actually went through with that terrible idea?

 

Terrible for you.

 

I personally find it great idea.


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Not mention if that was my warden that would already destroy way i played him as that warden in trailer was wearing warden armor when my warden left them.

 

 

 

 

B-but m-my Warden!
MUH WARDEN!



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Epilogues often got retconned, some weren't but they'll happen in some future which isn't "now"/DA:I

So there is still hope, hope, hope

I mean, my first name means hope so ****** it all, I'll keep hoping

It wasn't only in epilogues you could say that during the game in dao as well in daa then it was also in epilogue so this time i hope they won't show middle finger to players that took that approach as well to other players that took another.
 



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They already said if they will involve them it won't be simple for cameo only for bigger role.

Not mention if that was my warden that would already destroy way i played him as that warden in trailer was wearing warden armor when my warden left them.

 

For some reason I have a feeling that the Keep will not have the option of "What armor was your Warden wearing at the end of the game?" which kind of invalidates your statement.


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So it's just Hawke?

 

That's fine then, I don't really care what they do to Hawke; he was basically a set protagonist to begin with.


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It wasn't only in epilogues you could say that during the game in dao as well in daa then it was also in epilogue so this time i hope they won't show middle finger to players that took that approach as well to other players that took another.
 

Welp, we could also say that we'll visit Duncan's hometown, or go back to the clan if we're Dalish or go with Sten to qunlands etc

But in the end, DA:A still happened and other DLCs so I guess we stayed with the wardens. Some canon is inevitable



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Okay everyone calm down.

 

This is what I think: The guy we see in the picture is not THE Warden, but the Orleasian Warden from Awakening. Why? Well, because in Bioware's canon, their Warden did the Ultimate Sacrifice.

 

Most people wanted to play as the orleasian warden in Awakening, if they imported a world state where the warden did the US. Unfortunatly that was never possible.

 

But now they did it.


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#146
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Just be happy that they're there (at least hawke).

 

The Player didn't have much control over hawke anyway, so whatever.



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Okay everyone calm down.

 

This is what I think: The guy we see in the picture is not THE Warden, but the Orleasian Warden from Awakening. Why? Well, because in Bioware's canon, their Warden did the Ultimate Sacrifice.

 

Most people wanted to play as the orleasian warden in Awakening, if they imported a world state where the warden did the US. Unfortunatly that was never possible.

 

But now they did it.

I think so too. And if we didn't do US, we'll meet our Warden, yup



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I think so too. And if we didn't do US, we'll meet our Warden, yup

 

Yes. That's what I'm thinking.


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For some reason I have a feeling that the Keep will not have the option of "What armor was your Warden wearing at the end of the game?" which kind of invalidates your statement.

It isn't about what armor my warden was wearing...

it was about what choices my warden made read that again...

 

 

Welp, we could also say that we'll visit Duncan's hometown, or go back to the clan if we're Dalish or go with Sten to qunlands etc

But in the end, DA:A still happened and other DLCs so I guess we stayed with the wardens. Some canon is inevitable

Yes they showed middle finger to the players in daa but there you could still say that you will leave again after you solve this problem so as i said i hope they wond't do that again. They can leave them simple alone and player can came up what they are doing simple and easy solution that won't destroy massive amount of pc's just to get random character writen by bio.



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I think so too. And if we didn't do US, we'll meet our Warden, yup

Yes. That's what I'm thinking.

 

It's spreading...the horror...  :rolleyes:

 

Why does the Warden standing next to Hawke have to be a Warden from Origins?

 

Isn't it more likely that it is a random Warden that has some importance to whatever leads up to Giant Spider Creature from hell (that is not from Dark Souls 2)?

 

Edit:
 

It isn't about what armor my warden was wearing...

it was about what choices my warden made read that again...

 

Well in that case Chari takes care of that with the epilogues.