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[DisturbedJim83]

I kind of hate that idea, to be honest.  I don't want to control Hawke and either Warden, to be honest.  I don't even want them in the game, but that ship has sailed.  If they have to be included, I'd prefer them play a support NPC role in quest line and that be the extent of it.  The bigger their role, the more likelihood that they are going to get "Revaned", which I really, really don't want to happen.

 

I also don't need them to be together.  Yeah, it could make sense for them to be together, but it could make just as much sense for them to never have even met.  I also don't need the Warden and the Warden Commander to play the same role.  The Warden Commander was Orlesian, after all.  I wouldn't mind meeting him/her in Orlais. 

 

And I certainly don't want them to be my party members in the final boss battle.  I'll have just spent 50+ hours with a whole new cast of characters.  I don't want them relegated to the sidelines for a cameo battle appearance from Hawke and the Warden.

In my case it's the polar opposite I actively want Hawke in the party even if its only as a support NPC for a few missions,Warden would be nice too but not a deal killer, and in all my world states My Warden did the Dark Ritual unless female in which case alistair did it on her behalf so I always carried my Warden  into DAO:A so the Orlesian WC never existed for me. 

[Black Jimmy]

I kind of hate that idea, to be honest.  I don't want to control Hawke and either Warden, to be honest.  I don't even want them in the game, but that ship has sailed.  If they have to be included, I'd prefer them play a support NPC role in quest line and that be the extent of it.  The bigger their role, the more likelihood that they are going to get "Revaned", which I really, really don't want to happen.

 

I also don't need them to be together.  Yeah, it could make sense for them to be together, but it could make just as much sense for them to never have even met.  I also don't need the Warden and the Warden Commander to play the same role.  The Warden Commander was Orlesian, after all.  I wouldn't mind meeting him/her in Orlais. 

 

And I certainly don't want them to be my party members in the final boss battle.  I'll have just spent 50+ hours with a whole new cast of characters.  I don't want them relegated to the sidelines for a cameo battle appearance from Hawke and the Warden.

Yeah. Some good points. What do you mean by Revan'd anyway? As in get giving a set canon appearance? I doubt that'll happen. Noone really went into KOTOR expecting any of there choices to matter in any sequels like they do with Dragon Age.

 

I don't need them to be together, but I would like to see them interact. I also want to see Cass gush over Hawke a little and see Varric and Hawke reuinte. I just like character interactions. It's why I loved ME3: Citadel. I can't see how the Warden-Commander can not be HoFs fill in as they both have the same roll post Blight and if one exists the other doesn't. 

 

EDIT: I also can't believe Bioware would show Hawke standing next to a guy is Grey Warden armour and not have it be the Warden-Commander(Orlesian or no). It'd just be kinda mean.

[TK514]

I kind of hate that idea, to be honest.  I don't want to control Hawke and either Warden, to be honest.  I don't even want them in the game, but that ship has sailed.  If they have to be included, I'd prefer them play a support NPC role in quest line and that be the extent of it.  The bigger their role, the more likelihood that they are going to get "Revaned", which I really, really don't want to happen.

 

I also don't need them to be together.  Yeah, it could make sense for them to be together, but it could make just as much sense for them to never have even met.  I also don't need the Warden and the Warden Commander to play the same role.  The Warden Commander was Orlesian, after all.  I wouldn't mind meeting him/her in Orlais. 

 

And I certainly don't want them to be my party members in the final boss battle.  I'll have just spent 50+ hours with a whole new cast of characters.  I don't want them relegated to the sidelines for a cameo battle appearance from Hawke and the Warden.

 

I agree.  My Hawke was awesome and all, and  I wouldn't mind a little quest line to tie off his ending, but that's about the extent of it.  A good scene or two with BFF Varric, maybe help midgame with a Hawke questline boss but, ultimately, he had his game.  This is the Inquisitor's time and game, and I want to focus on the Inquisition.

 

Give Hawke a cameo, and let him retire.

[daveliam]

What do you mean by Revan'd anyway? As in get giving a set canon appearance? I doubt that'll happen. Noone really went into KOTOR expecting any of there choices to matter in any sequels like they do with Dragon Age.

 

 

Yeah, I mean both a set appearance as well as a personality that is not directly controlled by the player.  I'm still super bummed that the Exile has a canonical appearance because I always always picked a black woman for the Exile and then I get to SWTOR and it's like, nope, she's a cute young white girl.  I know that the set appearance isn't a concern because there will be some ability to customize appearance for Hawke and the Warden.  The extent to which is still unknown, though.

 

I'm more concerned about the fact that the Warden was a pretty blank slate and there's no way for them to use "data" to set a personality for him/her.  Which means that they will either have to just pick a personality and we all have to hope that it's what we want or they are going to have to limit his/her role so that it can be vague enough to allow for all the ways that we could have played that character.

[DisturbedJim83]

Yeah. Some good points. What do you mean by Revan'd anyway? As in get giving a set canon appearance? I doubt that'll happen. Noone really went into KOTOR expecting any of there choices to matter in any sequels like they do with Dragon Age.

 

I don't need them to be together, but I would like to see them interact. I also want to see Cass gush over Hawke a little and see Varric and Hawke reuinte. I just like character interactions. It's why I loved ME3: Citadel. I can't see how the Warden-Commander can not be HoFs fill in as they both have the same roll post Blight and if one exists the other doesn't. 

 

EDIT: I also can't believe Bioware would show Hawke standing next to a guy is Grey Warden armour and not have it be the Warden-Commander(Orlesian or no). It'd just be kinda mean.

Well the 2 most logical choices for The Warden next to Hawke would be either: 1) Our WC/OWC or 2) Carver/Bethany if they became a Grey Warden otherwise why would Hawke be traveling with a Random Warden since his/her only ties to the Grey Wardens are his/her Father Malcom,either surviving sibling if a Warden and also Corepheyus.

[Zu Long]

I kind of hate that idea, to be honest. I don't want to control Hawke and either Warden, to be honest. I don't even want them in the game, but that ship has sailed. If they have to be included, I'd prefer them play a support NPC role in quest line and that be the extent of it. The bigger their role, the more likelihood that they are going to get "Revaned", which I really, really don't want to happen.

I also don't need them to be together. Yeah, it could make sense for them to be together, but it could make just as much sense for them to never have even met. I also don't need the Warden and the Warden Commander to play the same role. The Warden Commander was Orlesian, after all. I wouldn't mind meeting him/her in Orlais.

And I certainly don't want them to be my party members in the final boss battle. I'll have just spent 50+ hours with a whole new cast of characters. I don't want them relegated to the sidelines for a cameo battle appearance from Hawke and the Warden.

In one way you're in luck. Gaider was involved in a number of discussions about this bac on the bsn, whre he confirmed we'd never be in charge of dialogue for warden/hawke again. Now we may end up with them as temp party members, though I doubt it will be against the big bad. However, I don't think it will be a brief cameo. Gaider was clear that if it was done, it would happen beca use warden and/or hawke had a significant role to play in the story.

As far worrying about revan, I think that's a bit unfair. Swtor was subject to lucasarts rules and they wanted a canon Revan and Exile. Dragon Age doesn'thave that problem and Gaider said they'd try as hard as they can to respect previous player choices.

Edit: sorry about typos, replying from my phone.

[Black Jimmy]

 I always always picked a black woman for the Exile and then I get to SWTOR and it's like, nope, she's a cute young white girl.  I

 

I'm more concerned about the fact that the Warden was a pretty blank slate and there's no way for them to use "data" to set a personality for him/her.  Which means that they will either have to just pick a personality and we all have to hope that it's what we want or they are going to have to limit his/her role so that it can be vague enough to allow for all the ways that we could have played that character.

Ha! My Exile wasthe black one too!

 

I'm assuming we figure his personality the same way we'd do Hawke. Probably via the keep. I personalliy don't mind HoF being different form Origins, as it's been tenish years since then, as long as I get some choice in which way the choices go. I mostly want to see him and Leliana smooching and snuggling  

[jlb524]

I'm more concerned about the fact that the Warden was a pretty blank slate and there's no way for them to use "data" to set a personality for him/her.  Which means that they will either have to just pick a personality and we all have to hope that it's what we want or they are going to have to limit his/her role so that it can be vague enough to allow for all the ways that we could have played that character.

 

I think the Warden's dialog will just be as neutral as possible while Hawke's will change a bit based on personality type (that can be selected in the Keep).

[Fiery Phoenix]

I think the Warden's dialog will just be as neutral as possible while Hawke's will change a bit based on personality type (that can be selected in the Keep).

Rather than 'selecting' a set personality type for Hawke, it would be more meaningful to have the Keep 'generate' a certain personality type for Hawke based on DA2 choices specified in the Keep. It would also make things a little more consistent.

 

But that's me thinking out loud. We don't even know to what extent Hawke will be involved in this game.

[Black Jimmy]

I think the Warden's dialog will just be as neutral as possible while Hawke's will change a bit based on personality type (that can be selected in the Keep).

I don't know. Even that would clash with how some people played there Wardens. You can probably give them a set personality like Hawke. It's not ideal, but at least you have some choice this way.

[Star fury]

A small cameo of the Warden and Hawke would suffice.

[Fiery Phoenix]

A small cameo of the Warden and Hawke would suffice.

I don't expect anything more. For all we know, the recent trailer shows Hawke's only appearance in the game.

[Milan92]

I don't expect anything more. For all we know, the recent trailer shows Hawke's only appearance in the game.

 

I hope it will be minor as well.

 

This is the Inquisitor's story, not Hawke's.

[Black Jimmy]

I hope it will be minor as well.

 

This is the Inquisitor's story, not Hawke's.

I don't get why people say this. An important role for The Warden or Hawke wouldn't make it any less The Inquisitors story.

[Milan92]

I don't get why people say this. An important role for The Warden or Hawke wouldn't make it any less The Inquisitors story.

 

What most likely will happen is that Hawke's presence will overshadow the Inquisitor.

 

"OMG ITS HAWKE WHO CARES ABOUT THIS INQUISITOR PERSON, I WANNA PLAY AS HAWKE"

[JFarr74]

I just wish that they would at least tell us who the Warden character is officially. I mean, it HAS to be the Orlesian Warden from Awakening. I don't know why they can't just tell us who it is. As if showing off Hawke wasn't a big reveal enough, why can't they tell us about the Warden?

[tokunari]

I agree as well. People have played the Warden commander and Hawke longer than the Inquisitor(Well we haven't play the I yet). So if Hawke or even the wc are present early game and somehow join the party, they might just not only overshadow the Inquisitor but the party members as well. Just like people who will use Varric 100% of the time instead of rotating with the new party members.

 

Well, maybe they will add in hawke and wc in an expansion or DLCs. Separate campaigns..

[MisterJB]

Plot twist: Hawke caused the Breach.

She was trying to help, honest.

[Black Jimmy]

I agree as well. People have played the Warden commander and Hawke longer than the Inquisitor(Well we haven't play the I yet). So if Hawke or even the wc are present early game and somehow join the party, they might just not only overshadow the Inquisitor but the party members as well. Just like people who will use Varric 100% of the time instead of rotating with the new party members.

 

Well, maybe they will add in hawke and wc in an expansion or DLCs. Separate campaigns..

How people play there games is really only an issue with them. If Hawke and/or The Warden turn up in a role similar to Arl Eamon are you going to start complaining about being unable to play as them instead of The Inquisitor? Based on what you're saying, I'm guessing not.

 

The only way either character could overshadow The Inquisitor is if they pop in during a cutscene to dispatch a boss monster that's unbeatable ingame or general overshadowing actions like that.

 

I like the idea of following them in DLC campaigns, but Bioware will probably only make so many DLC and I want to continue playing The Inquisitors story.

 

I'd much rather have them have a role similar to Eamon, Orisino or maybe even Morrigan.

[Milan92]

Plot twist: Hawke caused the Breach.

She was trying to help, honest.

 

Another failure to add to the list.

[tokunari]

How people play there games is really only an issue with them. If Hawke and/or The Warden turn up in a role similar to Arl Eamon are you going to start complaining about being unable to play as them instead of The Inquisitor? Based on what you're saying, I'm guessing not.

 

The only way either character could overshadow The Inquisitor is if they pop in during a cutscene to dispatch a boss monster that's unbeatable ingame or general overshadowing actions like that.

 

I like the idea of following them in DLC campaigns, but Bioware will probably only make so many DLC and I want to continue playing The Inquisitors story.

 

I'd much rather have them have a role similar to Eamon, Orisino or maybe even Morrigan.

 

If they turned up as an npc that guides the Inquisitor, I guess I'm fine with it. I don't think i will complain about not being able to play them but I will definitely be bumped if the WC and Hawke don't turn out to be them(as I've played it. For example WC suddenly became bloodlust warmonger), The only way to do that is to be in their shoes and control their dialogue which to me, will mess up with the flow of the Inquisitor being the new hero. Hell, I saw in Scuttlebutt someone mentioning "If Hawke be a choice to replace the human inquisitor Trevelyan". Some agrees with that statement. That's how overshadowed the Inquisitor will be..

Yeah, DLC expansion like Awakening would be cool. Added 8-10 hours as WC or Hawke on what they were doing during their disappearance. 

[JFarr74]

I'm not too worried about they overshadowing the Inquisitor. I imagine that the Warden and Hawke wouldn't show up until around the end of the game anyway. Plus, while the two of then are great Heroes, the Inquistor is the leader if a leading force in Thedas, which could be the most powerful one by the time they both show up. And I'm not opposed to controlling them in the final battle, or at least having them as NPC aids.

[Black Jimmy]

 

If they turned up as an npc that guides the Inquisitor, I guess I'm fine with it. I don't think i will complain about not being able to play them but I will definitely be bumped if the WC and Hawke don't turn out to be them(as I've played it. For example WC suddenly became bloodlust warmonger), The only way to do that is to be in their shoes and control their dialogue which to me, will mess up with the flow of the Inquisitor being the new hero. Hell, I saw in Scuttlebutt someone mentioning "If Hawke be a choice to replace the human inquisitor Trevelyan". Some agrees with that statement. That's how overshadowed the Inquisitor will be..

Yeah, DLC expansion like Awakening would be cool. Added 8-10 hours as WC or Hawke on what they were doing during their disappearance. 

 

We'll probably get to dictate what there personalities will be like via The Keep. 

 

 

I'm not too worried about they overshadowing the Inquisitor. I imagine that the Warden and Hawke wouldn't show up until around the end of the game anyway. Plus, while the two of then are great Heroes, the Inquistor is the leader if a leading force in Thedas, which could be the most powerful one by the time they both show up. And I'm not opposed to controlling them in the final battle, or at least having them as NPC aids.

 

Like Zev and Nathanael in DA2? That'd be cool.

[WildOrchid]

I don't get why people say this. An important role for The Warden or Hawke wouldn't make it any less The Inquisitors story.

 

This, thank you.

[Sheori]

I'm not too worried about they overshadowing the Inquisitor. I imagine that the Warden and Hawke wouldn't show up until around the end of the game anyway. Plus, while the two of then are great Heroes, the Inquistor is the leader if a leading force in Thedas, which could be the most powerful one by the time they both show up. And I'm not opposed to controlling them in the final battle, or at least having them as NPC aids.

 

I agree. I would love it if the last battle has all the "great" heros of thades there helping. Even if i don't controll the warden/warden-commander or Hawk. In truth i don't think they will overshaow the Inquisitor either. After all out of these three heros we have: A warden that killed the Archdemon through skill and luck *happened before...maybe not in so short a time* and we have Hark that killed the Arishok through skill and luck *you can also say that Hawk is just unlucky in his/her life if you look at the fact he/she just wanted to servive and protect their family* and lastly we have the Inquisitor who is a special snowflake. After all they got the glowly hand...due the other two have special skills? (not counting anything related to the grey warden skills). 

 

I'm thinking a big battle with all the heros and compainions and the end will lie with the Inquisitor and he/she's glowing hand. Either way i soooooo wish to see not just Hawk but also the warden/warden-commander. After the battle they all can have a round of drinks at the local pub .