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I meant Hawke's appearance will be default, and the game will skip pass customizing Hawke mandatory.

 

Yea, that's what I expect to happen too



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I don't think anyone's saying they want to abandon their Inquisitor in order to play their Warden or Hawke again.  But those two are important characters who have had a major influence on the world, and, especially considering that they're your characters, it's exciting to see what they're up to now.

This. Plus consistency with the overarching story of the franchise is super nice.


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It makes me hope that Hawke has some kind of heroic moment in the game that can't be avoided.

Not impossible. As this time he/she's not in a game with a running theme of inevitability

 

Also, alot of the examples at this point are starting to point at something bad that happened in game and saying Hawke's a failure because he couldn't stop.


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All right. I'll take a stab at this.

1. As you enter data into the keep, you are promptedd to include class, subclass, and gender for both Hawke and a non-US tHoF; you include race/origin for the Warden as well.
2. Upload your worldstate into DA:I
3. You are playing Inquisition, now. It is the masterpiece we all expect at this point. As you build your inner circle of party members, advisors and agents, two goals for the fledgling organization crystalize: immediately, end the mage/templar war, and ultimately end the old god (Elder One) causing the rifts in the Veil.
You are in the war room with Leliana, Cassandra, and Varrick. You are leafing through the book that Cassandra had (and gave to Leliana) at the end of DA2. You, as The Inquisitor, slam the book on the war table. "This is IT? This is all we know about them? Any schoolchild could have recited me half this text!"
Cassandra sighs, an exhausted contept. "We've been through this with you already. It is folly. To scour half the globe in search of two people who may not even be alive...!? The damage is done and the danger is in our doorway!"
The inquisitor glances at Leliana. She holds his gaze, defiant. "You knew him better than almost anyone, Leliana. Do you think she(he) is dead?"
"No. But Cassandra is right. You will not-" The Inquisitor cuts her off. "So she is alive. Somewhere. And Varrick, what about your great friend? Your description makes liberal use of words like 'Invincible' and 'godly...'"
Varrick grins at the floor. "My lord Inquisitor. I didn't think you were paying attention."
The inquisitor's near- whisper is infused with the intensity of a godless man's dying prayer: "No one knows more about the foces ranged against us than this an and this woman. It is folly to ignore that. Take this book, the three of you, and FINISH IT. Give our agent the information, I want those people in this room before we lose another village to this madness!"
The Inquisitor storms out of the room, leaving his companions in an unquiet silence. Varrick flips through the pages of the the Seekers' tome until he finds blank pages at the end. He plucks a quill from a nearby inkpot and begins sketching. The two women peer at the doodle the dwarf is attempting. Before long, Varrick surrenders with a huff.
"It a big inquisition, right ladies? Surely somebody here is good at likenesses...!!!?!"
4. A new, painterly styled CC interface fades in. Here we can customize the champion and the warden beyond the basic info given to The Keep, or use provided defaults.
5. Later in the game, we are able to locate the champion and/or the warden, and have a cool adventure.
6. If we find them and if they both live through the adventure, they may become valued agents of the Inquisition.



or something completely different....

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Possibly killed a bunch of insanely annoying elves who cling to hateful dogma and rhetoric about racial superiority?
 
Killed a bunch of demons and blood mages and elves! :D
 
Hawke is awesome.


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I usually have a Default Hawke, but with the new CC options, I may actually give him/her a custom look. Anyone else thinking the same?



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I hope EA won't do something crappy like.. $5 DLC to customize you previous hero!.. I suddenly had a feeling they might just do that  :mellow: Not a DLC where we continue the heroes stories but a separate DLC just to customize them...  :mellow:



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Has it been confirmed that the Keep is the only way to transfer games?  PC Gamers should be able to import the regular way.

 

Pretty sure at this point that's not going to happen. As a PC gamer, I prefer the keep actually. It makes it far more likely that my world will be imported the way I wanted them without having to worry about unfixable bugs. It also give me the opportunity to tweek my world state without having to play through two full games to do it.



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Eh...I don't need to see the Warden or Hawke again.  I just need closure with them.  Their endings were fairly open ended.  Especially with the way DA2 ended.

 

They ended it like that with DA2, intentionally, because there was meant to be an expansion whichwascancelledbecauseoftheme3endingwhiners.


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They ended it like that with DA2, intentionally, because there was meant to be an expansion whichwascancelledbecauseoftheme3endingwhiners.

I'm pretty sure the expansion was cancelled due to low sales and not *that*.


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I usually have a Default Hawke, but with the new CC options, I may actually give him/her a custom look. Anyone else thinking the same?

I'm gonna update my Hawke's appearance and give her long hair since she had a short hairstyle.



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I'm pretty sure the expansion was cancelled due to low sales and not *that*.

 

So the resources for the extended endings, came magically from the sky? The timing of the announcement of the ending, and ME3 EC were far too close.



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I usually have a Default Hawke, but with the new CC options, I may actually give him/her a custom look. Anyone else thinking the same?

 

I use a custom Hawke, but I'm probably going to change him a little bit from how he looked before.

 

Maybe give him a disheveled hobo beard. Because nothing says 'I've been gone for some time.' like a disheveled hobo beard. 


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So the resources for the extended endings, came magically from the sky? The timing of the announcement of the ending, and ME3 EC were far too close.

Which had nothing to do with the planned expansion for DA2,low sales expectations were why it was cancelled.ME3 and the ending fiasco didn't affect it.


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So the resources for the extended endings, came magically from the sky? The timing of the announcement of the ending, and ME3 EC were far too close.

 

I don't think that has anything to do with the DA2 Expansion being cancelled 


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And I smell a strong Hawke fanboy bias in you.

 

You also seem rather butthurt that people aren't kissing Hawke's feet the way characters do in the game.

Huh? All he's saying that he's being biased to the Warden while ignoring Hawke's accomplishments.



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Huh? All he's saying that he's being biased to the Warden while ignoring Hawke's accomplishments.

 

But he wasn't being bias to the Warden



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Huh? All he's saying that he's being biased to the Warden while ignoring Hawke's accomplishments.

Exactly and the double standards applied to the Warden who makes numerous failures but because its "The Warden" its acceptable however if Hawke so much as sneezes too loud its "Hawke's a failure" I'd rather have snarky Hawke over the " emotionless as a plank of wood" Warden that has the same blank face all the time.


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Exactly and the double standards applied to the Warden who makes numerous failures but because its "The Warden" its acceptable however if Hawke so much as sneezes too loud its "Hawke's a failure" I'd rather have snarky Hawke over the " emotionless as a plank of wood" Warden that has the same blank face all the time.

What warden failures?

Almost every warden failure is optional and even then if you consider them at all failures...

The only things i can come up is Ostagar where warden was just another mebmer of the army and it was beginning of the game but who accused hawke about escaping lothering.

And another thing is that he helped harvesters escape.

Problem with hawke is that he failed almost at everything he was trying achieve save for becoming rich no matter what we did...



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Exactly and the double standards applied to the Warden who makes numerous failures but because its "The Warden" its acceptable however if Hawke so much as sneezes too loud its "Hawke's a failure" I'd rather have snarky Hawke over the " emotionless as a plank of wood" Warden that has the same blank face all the time.

 

To be fair, the Warden can be snarky too. It's just that the PC in DA2 had a voice beyond phrases such as "My Warden senses are tingling!". I agree about the blank-faced Warden bit, however. The only reason I can fathom s/he was relatively inexpressive is because their faces were rarely shown in dialogue whereas in DA2, Hawke's face was shown in pretty much all dialogues.



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Which had nothing to do with the planned expansion for DA2,low sales expectations were why it was cancelled.ME3 and the ending fiasco didn't affect it.

 

I'm sure sales were part of it, but by how far along they seemed to be with the project: It's far too suspicious to say it had 'nothing to do with it'.



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What warden failures?

Almost every warden failure is optional and even then if you consider them at all failures...

The only things i can come up is Ostagar where warden was just another mebmer of the army and it was beginning of the game but who accused hawke about escaping lothering.

And another thing is that he helped harvesters escape.

Problem with hawke is that he failed almost at everything he was trying achieve save for becoming rich no matter what we did...

 

It's interesting to see the reactions to a story in which the game universe doesn't bend to the whims of the protagonist, and that random calamity is largely unavoidable and beyond any single person's control. Take the Bone Pit mine as an example. The Warden wouldn't have had this problem with the mine, only due to the simple fact that it's the Warden, and obviously the Warden can accomplish anything and everything by simply killing it, threatening it, or waving some treaties at it. Every situation has an optimal way out for that perfect quest due to some fortunate technicality, magical item or a coercion check, and you have to try really hard to mess anything up. Aside from that, you can do awful things and still succeed, and no one cares except the random weirdos that came with you, and even then, the game mechanic allows you to bribe your way back into their good graces.


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It's interesting to see the reactions to a story in which the game universe doesn't bend to the whims of the protagonist, and that random calamity is largely unavoidable and beyond any single person's control. Take the Bone Pit mine as an example. The Warden wouldn't have had this problem with the mine, only due to the simple fact that it's the Warden, and obviously the Warden can accomplish anything and everything by simply killing it, threatening it, or waving some treaties at it. Every situation has an optimal way out for that perfect quest due to some fortunate technicality, magical item or a coercion check, and you have to try really hard to mess anything up. Aside from that, you can do awful things and still succeed, and no one cares except the random weirdos that came with you, and even then, the game mechanic allows you to bribe your way back into their good graces.

Well if had to choose between protagonist that screws everything up no matter what player will do and protagonist that may or not screw up depending on what player will do i think i would go with second.



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Yeah, I gathered as much. I'm just remarking on what happens when a story takes away from the power fantasy a bit.



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Hawke does look like a tremendous failure next to the Warden, that was the point of his "smaller, more personal story".