It was the other way around. She wanted qunari to kill Hawke and use that as excuse to provoke people into rebelion against qunari. But she failed cause Hawke obviously survived. Even more. If after whole that mess you went to Arishok and told him about it you actually could gain his respect. You had even option to tell Arishok about Petrice involvement and he didn't care about it.
Like I just said she failed to get Hawke killed and rebelion started in first act. That's quite some time before the end of second one. If that's not delaying conflict idk what that is lol.
You do know that if you have high enough freindship with her, and you let her go with the tome she actually comes back with it and gives it back to the Arishok? She is reliable and loyal if she has good reason for that.
You completely ignore things like poisonous gas situation. It was caused by people who were pissed at qunari, cause their family/important freinds/whoever decided to join the qun. Many people disliked qunari in general, best example being Viscount himself. Why he did not like the idea of his son hanging out with qunari so much? Like I said, surerly Petrice messed a lot as, but it's not like she was the only cause of conflict. Even when she killed Saemus at the same time Arishok was as well pissed cause city guards were trying to make him extradite some qun converted criminals. He also was generally disgusted by Kirkwall's corruption and started his attack also to correct it by force and bring order dictated by qun.
I will not even comment idol thing cause it's like blaming Hawke for not being able to predict future. But hey maybe blame Varric? He made Hawke into getting money in the first place.
I know you can told him passive was passive for most time that was just one of actions that provoked him either way petrice got his way placing another brick.And who would help her not to mention who would deal with group of bandits in the sewers and survive.
Yes after she betrays you and let city burn then she came back and only because you had maxed approval. And yes she have very good reason to not escape with tome ups she did... ![]()
Pretty much he said that kirkwall is corrupted after petrice made hawke kill his peoples , then petrice group kidnaps qunari and kill them and then kills convert pretty most of actions was from her and only 1 group that went after qunari were insane elves.
I don't blame hawke but he had major role in helping bartrand even bigger than varric but yes varric had role in it as well so his action lead to disaster (1 of many) and later problems in third act.
Petrice and Kelder are nowhere near similar. Hawke doesn't have to be a pacifist to not decide murder is the best solution for everything.
So the Tevinter and Qunari didn't attack Hawke at all?
Then I don't get why you're brining it up? The expedition proves nothing for either argument.
I wasn't saying Hawke didn't need saving by Hawke. I'm not saying Hawke is more competent. I think both are equally awesome.
Ok, some circumstances were on The Wardens side. They were privy to the info needed to get the job done. Hawke wasn't.
And yet in that situation it would be .Yes if you mention that kelder was nowhere smiliar as you kill him with public knowing that and he had powerful father.
Hawke intervened in the fight hawke wasn't their goal...
It was toward topic that it was hakwe who lead to problems in third act... not about failure...
It is your opinion so well...
No at all warden needed were treaties that he got himself and flemeth help pretty much same was with hawke he could prevent disaster he was just an idiot that took bad choices.Pretty much best shown in mota... or simple some actions backfired and lead to tragedy as i mentioned about idol.





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