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Ieldra

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And if any company knows how to eff up the majority of fans by doing nasty stouid things to fan-favourite-protagonists, we have exhibit A: Bioware :lol:

LOL, indeed. But I happen to think that experiencing the reaction might make them hesitate to do it again.

 

BTW, I wonder what some people here have against the Warden. It pisses me off as much as the more frequent Hawke-bashing. What is it that people want them to die? *Fumes*


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#877
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Yes, I would love it if they killed off the Warden off screen. Then I'd have the joy of playing every future DA game and thinking 'Why do I care? They're just gonna get screwed over in a disappointing off screen demise in the sequel anyway.' every time I look at my character.

Yes. Brilliant.

/sarcasm

Seriously, I don't care if they actually appear. Just leave them out of it if the only reason you mention them is to kill them for no reason other than to remove them.
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#878
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I´m expecting all three protagonists do die, that way I can be pleasantly surprised if they do survive :lol



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Why is it that everyone thinks anything short of death = cliff hanger?

I'll be perfectly happy if the previous two protagonists stay alive. Ultimatly I trust Biowares writing more then most companies and I expect great things from Inquisition. I saw great things in Origins and 2, so I don't see why I'd expect less.

It will definitly be nice to see how my previous two characters influence the next game though, hopefully it will be more then a passing mention like in previous Bioware titles.



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LOL, indeed. But I happen to think that experiencing the reaction might make them hesitate to do it again.
 
BTW, I wonder what some people here have against the Warden. It pisses me off as much as the more frequent Hawke-bashing. What is it that people want them to die? *Fumes*

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If it had been this way that bioware decided to continue the story of the warden in DAI as Protaganist then the protest would be minimal and people would have accepted that. Its not like people would say this:

"What! the warden is protagonist again! im never going to play DAI, btw im going to call for the police"

People would have simply accepted that.

But the return of the warden would be like an addiction. You always want more and it would never be enough. the fact that many fansare against the warden for a cameo is for only ONE reason. They don't want Bioware to take control of their character,change appearance, personality and voice . you want yourself to be in charge of the direction.

But if you would create a poll concerning which Hero you want to return as protagonist I can guarantee you that majority would say the warden.

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What if they went about it in a different way: bring back the Orlesian Warden Commander. Sure it may not be the person who went through Awakening in your file, but at least it's a compromise for those who want a Warden to return and those whose Warden is dead.



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What if they went about it in a different way: bring back the Orlesian Warden Commander. Sure it may not be the person who went through Awakening in your file, but at least it's a compromise for those who want a Warden to return and those whose Warden is dead.

that would be worse imo. The issue is he will still be murdered by "the demands of the story"

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that would be worse imo. The issue is he will still be murdered by "the demands of the story"

Not really. Since the game takes place in Orlais, it would be more personal to the DA:A Warden. HoF could be back in Ferelden still trying to establish the Wardens there.



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they mentioned the the warden won't be returning..sort of. So perhaps we see his/her ghoul for or worse?



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raging_monkey

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they mentioned the the warden won't be returning..sort of. So perhaps we see his/her ghoul for or worse?

or corpse

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or corpse

And then BSN will be one fire.



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raging_monkey

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And then BSN will be one fire.

MT threads: stage 1fires(most people just get annoyed

Elf threads: stage2 fires(people are appaled by other fans)

Stage3 fires: may the maker have mercy on the fandom.... friends will fight, lovers kill eachother, and then BW becomes another ea defunct company.

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or corpse

 

 

Well, zombies are everywhere, so it's possibility. The worse I can think off is if Solas (since he can relive passed events via dreams) goes to sleep and we see the Warden's memory imprint before his her Calling



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Well, zombies are everywhere, so it's possibility. The worse I can think off is if Solas (since he can relive passed events via dreams) goes to sleep and we see the Warden's memory imprint before his her Calling

oh i was being playfully snarky but had never that idea

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Well well well, look what we have here:

 

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I wonder what Stroud angle is in all of this. My Hawke barely met him during the qunari attack.


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*Stark impersonation* There will be my Hawke and your Hawke. MY HAWKE! YOUR HAWKE! MY HAWKE! YOUR HAWKE!

 

Like it or not, from Inquistion on Hawke will no longer meet with your ''vision''. He's going off on his own now. He could be in the middle of drowning a bag full of puppies when you meet him.



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*Stark impersonation* There will be my Hawke and your Hawke. MY HAWKE! YOUR HAWKE! MY HAWKE! YOUR HAWKE!

 

Like it or not, from Inquistion on Hawke will no longer meet with your ''vision''. He's going off on his own now. He could be in the middle of drowning a bag full of puppies when you meet him.

 

Each Hawke will be different, some will be sarcastic, some will be diplomatic, some will be pro mage, some will be pro templar, so while they will act as NPCs, their behaviour will be different depending on players past choices.



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*Stark impersonation* There will be my Hawke and your Hawke. MY HAWKE! YOUR HAWKE! MY HAWKE! YOUR HAWKE!
 
Like it or not, from Inquistion on Hawke will no longer meet with your ''vision''. He's going off on his own now. He could be in the middle of drowning a bag full of puppies when you meet him.

and BW will constantly say f-you to loyal fans lol.. im teasing playfully

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BTW, I wonder what some people here have against the Warden. It pisses me off as much as the more frequent Hawke-bashing. What is it that people want them to die? *Fumes*

Nothing at all. I simply think they are in the way of the narrative due to people's heavy attachment to them...I like my Hawke and Warden but they are in the way. Can't do anything with them or without them, without it inciting some sort of flame.

Kill your darling, as they say.



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I don't mind Hawke being there too much because it's easy to do Hawke right, pick Diplomat, Snarky or Aggressive and Pro-Mage or Pro-Templar. (Though am I the only who noticed her short hair didn't look the same ?) But I don't want any of my Wardens in there because they WILL **** up something about it one way or another


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Well well well, look what we have here:

 

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I wonder what Stroud angle is in all of this. My Hawke barely met him during the qunari attack.

I'm going to go with the easy suggestion and say Corypheus.

Even if Hawke never meets Stroud, he's still a Grey Warden that was stationed in the Free Marches and Hawke fought the damn thing.



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Nothing at all. I simply think they are in the way of the narrative due to people's heavy attachment to them...I like my Hawke and Warden but they are in the way. Can't do anything with them or without them, without it inciting some sort of flame.

Kill your darling, as they say.

Except they'd be killing others' darlings. I think they could - and should - let the old protagonists walk out of the story alive. Many of those who complain about the Warden's absence have said they'd have been ok with them never being mentioned again except that DA2 hinted at an unresolved issue and introduced a new plot hook by making them suspiciously vanish.


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#898
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Even if Hawke never meets Stroud, he's still a Grey Warden that was stationed in the Free Marches and Hawke fought the damn thing.

 

Hawke always meets Stroud in Kirkwall no matter what.



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Hawke always meets Stroud in Kirkwall no matter what.

 

Wasn't Stroud suppose to be in the expansion also?



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I don't really know much about the expansion. I have a feeling he was if he's involved in the Hawke quest here.