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[Reznore57]

Does he? I thought his origins were mostly shrouded in mystery, at this point?

oh creators, I am so hyped for this game

 

It seems he's a city elf who grew up in a small village.

And he met the Dalish a few time during his travels.

[Basement Cat]

Does it count as a self-insert if you have compartmentilized personality and each character is a different part of it? *pondering*

 

At any rate, I tend to make escapist characters rather than self inserts.

[The Morning Star]

Does he? I thought his origins were mostly shrouded in mystery, at this point?

oh creators, I am so hyped for this game

Lack of vallasin and not a simple mention of Dalish blood in his character profile.

[Samahl]

Lack of vallasin and not a simple mention of Dalish blood in his character profile.

 

That's a good point, but I don't know... maybe he grew up somewhere remote?

 

EDIT: I guess I mostly just don't want the only elves in the party to both be city elves.

[Reznore57]

That's a good point, but I don't know... maybe he grew up somewhere remote?

 

EDIT: I guess I mostly just want there to not have the only elves in the party both be city elves.

 

From twitter : Patrick Weekes: ”Solas is not Dalish (no vallaslin), although he grew up in a small village, not city. Has met Dalish while travelling, tho.”

 

http://dragonaging.t...es-solas-is-not

[Eveangaline]

I'm hoping that your choices make you either the Herald of something else, or just get called "inquisitor" rather than herald.

[Samahl]

From twitter : Patrick Weekes: ”Solas is not Dalish (no vallaslin), although he grew up in a small village, not city. Has met Dalish while travelling, tho.”

 

http://dragonaging.t...es-solas-is-not

 

Aw... thanks. I guess it's cool that he was raised in a village rather than a city, though. Maybe he's from the Dales? /off-topic

[TK514]

 

At any rate, I tend to make escapist characters rather than self inserts.

 

Same.  I don't want to be me, I do that all the time.  I want to be a guy who unites nations and swings weapons the size of automobiles at flying lizards the size of commercial aircraft.  And stuff.

[Basement Cat]

Same.  I don't want to be me, I do that all the time.  I want to be a guy who unites nations and swings weapons the size of automobiles at flying lizards the size of commercial aircraft.  And stuff.

And karate kicks helicopters? Yeah. I would not survive a day in those fantasy worlds, so self inserts are not too attractive. I like to play mad scientists whenever I can, and that artificer specialisation for rogues sounds intriguing. 

[vaire]

Trying to be clever?

._.

A spirit during the age of creation, after the introduction of discord into arda though, he became a progenitor elf, its just simpler to recall the character as an elf.

Because that was what he was for recorded history.

This, my lad, is a Tolkien lore fail.
With a side of trying to be smart.

Sauron was a Maia, called by the Eldar Gorthaur and fully acknowledged by them as one of the Maiar. Even when he tricked Celebrimbor into forging the ring he presented himself as something more than a simple elf.
So: no, he was never "recorded as an elf" in the ancient chronicles (Silmarillion and HOME).
The "progenitors" of the Quendi were: Imin, Tata and Enel.

[Steelcan]

This, my lad, is a Tolkien lore fail.
With a side of trying to be smart.

Sauron was a Maia, ancient lye called by the Eldar Gorthaur, even when he tricked Celebrimbor into forging the ring he presented himself as something more than a simple elf.
So: no, he was never "recorded as an elf" in the ancient chronicles (Silmarillion and HOME).

A. His name was Mairon

B. He presented himself as an elven smith when distributing the rings as Annatar

[animedreamer]

If I had it my way I'd scream I was Andraste child with the Maker.

[Master Warder Z_]

This, my lad, is a Tolkien lore fail.
With a side of trying to be smart.

Sauron was a Maia, ancient lye called by the Eldar Gorthaur, even when he tricked Celebrimbor into forging the ring he presented himself as something more than a simple elf.
So: no, he was never "recorded as an elf" in the ancient chronicles (Silmarillion and HOME).

 

Lore fail? They are lesser Ainur, who happen to descend into elves.

 

It seems, you just don't wish to admit, He was a progenitor elf after going to the physical world, The Valar called the first elves to them and it was then and there that they became the what we actually see in Lord of the Rings, Without the intervention of the Valar, you get the Avari, An offshoot.

 

So yes, i acknowledge the common ancestry, and for short hand refer to Sauron as a elf, it isn't inaccurate in my eye..

 

Maia are elves in the way that house Cats are Saber tooth tigers, but they all descend from the same ancestor.

 

I just acknowledge it as such, He's an Elf.

 

Beyond that, I am smart

 

So don't quote lore at me, when if you actually know about the lore, you know exactly of what i speak of, and exactly why its accurate.

[Basement Cat]

If I had it my way I'd scream I was Andraste child with the Maker.

That reminds me: I wish we had another emote button. We have one for the noble answer, the sarcastic answer and the evil answer. I wish we had a 'hammy' emote. We a pig face to illustrate it. Going over the top is fun!

[Ynqve]

That reminds me: I wish we had another emote button. We have one for the noble answer, the sarcastic answer and the evil answer. I wish we had a 'hammy' emote. We a pig face to illustrate it. Going over the top is fun!

 

YES! I NEED THIS! 

 

with Brian Blessed as an extra DLC voice option, for both male and female characters. 

[vaire]

A. His name was Mairon
B. He presented himself as an elven smith when distributing the rings as Annatar

Was Mairon before he joined Morgoth when he still worked for Aule and I'm a Feanorian at heart so they are Morgoth and Gorthaur not Melkor and Mairon. XD

[The Night Haunter]

Personally I think if we are known as Herald it will always be the Herald of Andraste. The Chantry is what is supporting the Inquisition (kind of, the Old Dead Divine is the one who charged Cass with creating the Inquisition and all-in-all I'd say the Inquisition will either be a Chantry organization or a completely neutral one. I don't think we will ever (in DAI) be the Herald of the Creators or the Ancestors or the Stone. 

 

However, I do believe we will be able not to be known as Herald (for those vocal Atheists in the crowd), instead using Inquisitor as a more secular title. I seriously doubt that Bioware would railroad us into being Chantry supporters.

[TheCreeper]

Hey if the people want to call a Qunari Necromancer the Herald of Andraste that's their business.

 

The devs have said the Inquisition can have  anti-chantry policies and indeed was founded in opposition to the remaining chantry. Now admittedly this leaves the door open for us to be an Andrastian who doesn't follow the church, but I have my doubts. The Inquisitor can be a Dalish Elf, in fact the only Elf option is Dalish, even for the mages.Why would the Devs have that as an option instead of City and Circle Bound elves, both of who would likely be Andrastian or at least come from that sort of background, if they where going to force us to believe in the Maker? 

[LPPrince]

If I had it my way I'd scream I was Andraste child with the Maker.

 

Whoa, slow down now

[Master Warder Z_]

B. He presented himself as an elven smith when distributing the rings as Annatar

 

Did he?

.

I must have forgotten that bit, well goes to show that even i get rusty on the lore occasionally.

[LPPrince]

Oh my God...

 

We ARE Andraste...

 

*mind explosion*

 

[vaire]

Lore fail? They are lesser Ainur, who happen to descend into elves.
 
It seems, you just don't wish to admit, He was a progenitor elf after going to the physical world, The Valar called the first elves to them and it was then and there that they became the what we actually see in Lord of the Rings, Without the intervention of the Valar, you get the Avari, An offshoot.
 
So yes, i acknowledge the common ancestry, and for short hand refer to Sauron as a elf, it isn't inaccurate in my eye..
 
Maia are elves in the way that house Cats are Saber tooth tigers, but they all descend from the same ancestor.
 
I just acknowledge it as such, He's an Elf.
 
Beyond that, I am smart
 
So don't quote lore at me, when if you actually know about the lore, you know exactly of what i speak of, and exactly why its accurate.

Just no.
Accept you are wrong with a modicum of elegance while you are still able to.
Maiar precede the creation of Ea, elves are neither created by the Valar's nor by the Maiar: they are the Firstborn of Eru. You are comparing a minor god with an immortal.
They are not cats and tigers, they are reptilians and birds ( despite being able to procreate together).

[TheJediSaint]

Oh my God...

 

We ARE Andraste...

 

*mind explosion*

 

[TK514]

YES! I NEED THIS! 

 

with Brian Blessed as an extra DLC voice option, for both male and female characters. 

Or Raul Julia,  bless his memory.

[Master Warder Z_]

Just no.
Accept you are wrong with a modicum of elegance while you are still able to.
Maiar precede the creation of Ea, elves are neither created by the Valar's nor by the Maiar: they are the Firstborn of Eru. You are comparing a minor god with an immortal.

 

Just no? That isn't how debate works, and it isn't as if this is set into stone.

 

Eru Awoke Elves, there is no indicator period in the lore, that he created them, besides him being the "creator" who made existence and the ainur, man and elves are called his children, but beyond men there is no proof of him creating squat beyond the Ainur. beyond that the Valar whom i cited prior did call the elves to them, making them into the elves that known to history.

 

So what do i accept?  The Valar called the elves at the beginning of the world, those that went emerged into what the lore recognizes as elves, Melkor's creations can interbreed with them, You seem to dismiss this but i view it as the proof that ties them together, The Rebel Ainur created life outside of the design of Eru that is capable of interacting and breeding with them.

 

Beyond that, it seems you only have the creation myth that is told via a song. (What is with Tolkien and telling stories via song) 

 

I tend to look for more...plausible clues.

 

Also the Ainur are the first born of Eru, or at least those he created first, if we are splitting hairs.