Hmm, I didn't think about it before but is the Urn of Sacred Ashes foreshadowing? Andraste, flaming hand = Inquistors power, at the top of steps? Boy, this is interesting...
Urn of Sacred Ashes
"Andraste" atop stairs in the fade?
The inquistor receiving his "gift"? Left hand also, same as statue.
Hmm, I didn't think about it before but is the Urn of Sacred Ashes foreshadowing? Andraste, flaming hand = Inquistors power, at the top of steps? Boy, this is interesting...
Urn of Sacred Ashes
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"Andraste" atop stairs in the fade?
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The inquistor receiving his "gift"? Left hand also, same as statue.
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Good catch! I wonder...
Good catch! I wonder...
I strongly doubt it...
That looks like some kind of wicked evil abomination of a demon that is all glowing and menacing.
I strongly doubt it...
That looks like some kind of wicked evil abomination of a demon that is all glowing and menacing.
Optimism! 
Just no? That isn't how debate works, and it isn't as if this is set into stone.
Eru Awoke Elves, there is no indicator period in the lore, that he created them, besides him being the "creator" who made existence and the ainur, man and elves are called his children, but beyond men there is no proof of him creating squat beyond the Ainur. beyond that the Valar whom i cited prior did call the elves to them, making them into the elves that known to history.
So what do i accept? The Valar called the elves at the beginning of the world, those that went emerged into what the lore recognizes as elves, Melkor's creations can interbreed with them, You seem to dismiss this but i view it as the proof that ties them together, The Rebel Ainur created life outside of the design of Eru that is capable of interacting and breeding with them.
Beyond that, it seems you only have the creation myth that is told via a song. (What is with Tolkien and telling stories via song)
I tend to look for more...plausible clues.
Also the Ainur are the first born of Eru, or at least those he created first, if we are splitting hairs.
Because this isn't a debate, XD you said something that was just plainly wrong and now are praticing free-climbing on mirrors by trying to change what you said.
You tried to sass a person telling: QUOTE
Trying to be clever?
._.
A spirit during the age of creation, after the introduction of discord into arda though, he became a progenitor elf, its just simpler to recall the character as an elf.
Because that was what he was for recorded history." /END QUOTE
Which is just wrong.
Simple as that.
Now, if you want a debate on this last post of your [which still shows a certain confusion lore-wise (for example: orcs are not an original creation the only Vala creating life without Eru's permission was Aulë (not a renegade Vala at all), the elves who followed the Valar were not the only ones that resulted in "what the lore recognizes ads elves (example:the Sindar, Avari; Silvan), Eru created Ea besides elves and men, and I took into consideration the published Silmarillion as the main source (not a song, HOME has songs) and apart from the Ainulindalë there are no sources documenting the pre-Awakening period.] I'm afraid this is neither the time nor the place.
I hope that it's not Andraste and that glowing lady was just a power spirit or elven god.
Andraste is the Power Spirit of Elven Gods.
TWIST PLOT
Because this isn't a debate, XD you said something that was just plainly wrong and now are praticing free-climbing on mirrors by trying to change what you said.
You tried to sass a person telling: QUOTE
Trying to be clever?
._.
A spirit during the age of creation, after the introduction of discord into arda though, he became a progenitor elf, its just simpler to recall the character as an elf.
Because that was what he was for recorded history." /END QUOTE
Which is just wrong.
Simple as that.
Now, if you want a debate on this last post of your [which still shows a certain confusion lore-wise (for example: orcs are not an original creation the only Vala creating life without Eru's permission was Aulë (not a renegade Vala at all), the elves who followed the Valar were not the only ones that resulted in "what the lore recognizes ads elves (example:the Sindar, Avari; Silvan), Eru created Ea besides elves and men, and I took into consideration the published Silmarillion as the main source (not a song, HOME has songs) and apart from the Ainulindalë there are no sources documenting the pre-Awakening period.]
It really isn't? Mirror climbing isn't what i'm doing, i consider the offshoot of elves, to be the offshoot of elves.
The Avari an offshoot i mentioned prior, so bringing something i already mentioned into this, doesn't do much. I consider the Maia, which are in essence the Valar, which interbred with the primordial elves to create them into what they are today, to be the beginning of the elf race.
Honestly, its a pretty simple theory and it doesn't contradict the given lore, only a creation myth that hasn't ever really been expanded upon, Eru awoke the elves, there was never any indicator that however, that he had created them, That brings into question, what created them when the material world was forming at the end of the age of creation, but that doesn't have to do with what i propose.
Also i don't recall stating Orcs were an original creation, i stated the rebel ainur created life outside the bounds of Eru, which he did.
And Melkor is an Ainur, the strongest of his kind created. not a valar by the way.
Bleh, I really don't wish to discuss this any further, because apparently we have both reached the point where we are going to cite our own lore as basis, I consider Sauron an elf, due to the race he assumed when he came to the world, aka a lesser Ainur Valar.
Which directly had a hand in creating the elves we saw in the series, due to the interbreeding.
Just a theory, but it makes sense to me.
All my PC's believe in Andraste and the Maker, so this is quite exciting.
Seriously though I undertsand your concerns here, but I would tell you to not fret, BioWare clearly carter for both sides of the aisles and maybe this time one would be given the chance to be the decider when it comes to the fate of Thedas. We get to decide the fate of the mages once and for all ...
Are you ready?
PS: May the blessings of Andraste, the Maker's bride be with you!
Looks like a naked chick in a funny hat to me.
Yeah, that's a funny hat, isn't it? It reminds me of this:
The Divine?
Yeah, that's a funny hat, isn't it? It reminds me of this:
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The Divine?
Yeah me too.
That was my first thought.
And if this is what happen at the start , it would make sense for the Inquisitor to go towards something that look familliar.
He/She probably saw the Divine talking at the peace talk.
It's also possible that the Fade Rifts are indicative and symptomatic over a larger cosmological battle for the spiritual realm of Thedas. Perhaps you have been chosen to be the earthly avatar of one side in that fight and your antagonist is the avatar of the other side. The fight will rage regardless of any earthly religious institutions assembled in the name of those factions, so whether or not you support or fight those factions is up to you. However, your success or failure in defending the side you were chosen by will have profound impacts for everyone, like it or not.
Oh My Maker my mind is blownHmm, I didn't think about it before but is the Urn of Sacred Ashes foreshadowing? Andraste, flaming hand = Inquistors power, at the top of steps? Boy, this is interesting...
Urn of Sacred Ashes
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"Andraste" atop stairs in the fade?
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The inquistor receiving his "gift"? Left hand also, same as statue.
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Looks kinda like this too
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^ Yup. IMO, Uthenara.
So, I guess that really is Andraste then.
Hmm, I didn't think about it before but is the Urn of Sacred Ashes foreshadowing? Andraste, flaming hand = Inquistors power, at the top of steps? Boy, this is interesting...
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Have people realized that the lady is half turning around to grab the Inquisitor's hand?
Looks like she is doing something else there. Maybe opening a Fade rift to send you back? Or keeping something at bay (the black "water", could be the taint). I'm also wondering if that is a spirit. Normal dreamers have glowy appearance in the Fade according to World of Thedas. Could be someone who is not corporeally in the Fade at the time, but projecting itself into it.
Have people realized that the lady is half turning around to grab the Inquisitor's hand?
Looks like she is doing something else there. Maybe opening a Fade rift to send you back? Or keeping something at bay (the black "water", could be the taint). I'm also wondering if that is a spirit. Normal dreamers have glowy appearance in the Fade according to World of Thedas. Could be someone who is not corporeally in the Fade at the time, but projecting itself into it.
Hm, A Normal Dreamer assisting the Inquisitor in a dream.
Sort of romantic.
I'd also like to point out that the statue I can be seen the ruined temple where andrastes ashes where kept. Though not in the gauntlet itself.
I hope our belief in the Chantry is interchangeable, after all if not then this game is surely built around you playing as a human. I cannot see many Elves, Qunari or certainly Dwarfs being devout Chantry followers and surely Bioware know that.
Great I'm the Herald of the wretched woman that crippled the Imperium's power...
Andraste is the Power Spirit of Elven Gods.
TWIST PLOT
Sebastian: So what do you believe, Merrill?
Merrill: Our gods abandoned us long ago. They haven't answered our prayers since the fall of Arlathan. When we've proven that we're elves again, that we didn't lose everything, they'll come back to us.
Sebastian: We say the same of the Maker. Perhaps they're only different names for the same divine force that created the world.
Merrill: The Maker wants you to be elves?
Foreshadowing!
Sebastian: So what do you believe, Merrill?
Merrill: Our gods abandoned us long ago. They haven't answered our prayers since the fall of Arlathan. When we've proven that we're elves again, that we didn't lose everything, they'll come back to us.
Sebastian: We say the same of the Maker. Perhaps they're only different names for the same divine force that created the world.
Merrill: The Maker wants you to be elves?
Foreshadowing!
*insert your favorite seizure gif here*
Great I'm the Herald of the wretched woman that crippled the Imperium's power...
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