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[Storm King]

I just don't want to be forced into being a devout Andrastian. Hawke was bad enough but there was really only one example of that in Sebastians act 3 quest but even so, twas annoying. I mean, where's the option to say I believe in different gods or no gods at all?

[Chari]

Mmm, I don't care what others think about it... but my main Inquisitor will probably even himself believe that and will be hella happy

Now, my Dalish and Dwarven Inqs will be a tad irritated XD

So much fun

[Deebo305]

Not sure how this surprises anyone, how else would some random soldier/merc/mage/ etc. become leader of potentially one of the most powerful organizations in Thedas' history

Make them the messiah to the most popular religion in the land

[themageguy]

I was pretty sure the devs already said that we could deny affiliations with the Maker or the chantry.

Perhaps a dalish might believe that they ate being aided by one of their creators, or the vashoth may have their own spiritual belief system.

After seeing the avvar, i now want to be an avvar shaman proclaiming to be the herald of Korth. Lol

[DarthLaxian]

No, because blood magic won't be a specialization option for mages.

 

Sadly it will not

 

That still really pisses me off (can we have a DLC/MOD for that?)...I hate being a dumb idiot again that can't do all the things NPC mages do all the time (while still killing them by the truckload)...It makes one feel stupid IMO - you are the powerful hero, but NPC mages are much better (still: they lose all the time)...*shakes his head*)

 

So, Herald of Andraste?

 

I hope that we can tell the chantry to go F* themselves (not in those words, I don't want to be the bull in the china shop) - I don't care much for a religious title (even if I could destroy the chantry with it...I don't want to become a cult leader myself )...on the other hand, maybe I can use it to gain sway over the zealots (in order to stop them from attacking mages)

 

greetings LAX

ps: As a mage it would be kind of funny, too

[Joseph Warrick]

Inquisitor: "How many times do I have to tell you people, I want to be called the Hand of Mythal!"

Cullen: "Quiet, Herald. Andraste wouldn't approve of your blasphemous ways."

Andraste: "And by the way, mages are evil."

[Weyrdstone]

I agree that being a Herald is not necessarily negative.  I respectfully doubt that any religion interpreted by people can be what any diety - who would, by omnipotent and omnipresent nature, be beyond the realm of mortal interpretability - perfectly intended.

 

If religious themes in a fantasy game are concerning, why did no one object to the Bhaalspawn?  That heritage is very religious, I think, with the freedom to act either way.

 

I certainly do hope we have the option to downplay the title, for the sake of player choice, however, we are in Bioware's playground; their world is their world, period, and we do not have to buy the game if we don't like it.

[Illyria God King of the Primordium]

I dunno, it's a pleasant change from the 'lel, the Chantry is so dumb' which has kinda been implied for the past two games.  It'll be interesting to see things from their point of view.   

 

Having said that, yeah, dwarves/dalish inquisitors better have an option to say 'what a load of balls' in response to this.  

[Pierce Miller]

I'll be a mage, so the whole herald of andraste thing could get a bit interesting

 

this being said I want to be the moses of mages.

[Inprea]

I'll be a mage, so the whole herald of andraste thing could get a bit interesting

 

this being said I want to be the moses of mages.

 

I imagine they'd be happy so long as that does not include the 40 years of wondering in a desert.

[Bigdoser]

Qunari mage as the Herald? Now that would be interesting. Well it is to be expected people turned you into a symbol I assume in bioware fashion you can embrace it to manipulate people or even call everyone nuts for calling you that title and simply call you inquisitor.

[Ilidsor]

The fact that we are dalish elves instead of city elves gives me hope that we don't have to accept this. They would have just made us city elves instead if we had no option, because then we couldn't really complain.

 

Frankly I'll be happy as long as I get the option to politely turn this down instead of having to be an ass about it.

[Pierce Miller]

I imagine they'd be happy so long as that does not include the 40 years of wondering in a desert.

I remember seeing a desert in one of the trailers a while back.

[Paul E Dangerously]

Yeah, Bioware has some... trouble with the Chantry.
My biggest problem with origins is the Urn of Sacred Ashes. No matter what your Warden goes on some crazy expedition into the Frostbacks, fights through scores of dragon cultists to find what might, if legend holds, contain the ashes of some chick the Chantry really likes. You can even agree to defile the ashes, but first you get some 'pure' sample.

 

How is that even a problem? They've tried literally every other solution to cure Arl Eamon, and nothing's worked. Sending a guy to chase down a legend is really the only hope they have, and without Eamon the Warden couldn't hope to secure victory against the Darkspawn. No armies of Redcliffe, no Landsmeet, no new King, nothing.

 

They even throw a bone to all the atheist supporters out there by deliberately pointing out there are extremely pure lyrium deposits right next to the shrine where the Ashes are, so it's probably not some sort of "holy" power but regular ol' magic. But I guess nobody ever brought Oghren along, huh.

[azarhal]

I remember seeing a desert in one of the trailers a while back.

 

A desert in the Fade from what I get of the latest trailer. It's look like the scene with the glowy figure. The Inquisitor is like in a sandstorm in that scene.

[Gervaise]

Ever played Arcanum?   A guy turns up at the beginning of that offering to be your friend and insisting that you are the reincarnation of some important person that was prophesised.   You spend the game either playing along with it or vigorously denying it.

 

The Chantry people call you the Herald of Andraste because that fits their religious beliefs but you can deny it (the Devs said so).   I'm pretty sure that any Dalish you encounter aren't going to call you that.   May be they'll label you with something that fits their own faith (if you're an elf) or may be not at all.   Same applies to the any dwarves you encounter or Vashoth.     I doubt Iron Bull is going to call anyone "Herald of Andraste".

 

So I figure it is up to each person how they want to play it; actually believe they have been "sent"; not believe but play along with the title because it's useful to do so; or deny it continuously and insist people call you plain "Inquisitor".

 

I actually think there would be a lovely irony for my Dalish mage Inquisitor to be called "Herald of Andraste" by members of the Chantry.

[Urazz]

Don't the Dalish respect Andraste herself for her helping to free the Elves?  I know they don't worship the maker but I was under the impression that they respected her for what she did for them.   If so being called the Herald of Andraste isn't necessarily an insulting thing for the Dalish.  When I get to my Dalish playthrough, i'm not going to be offended being called that but he is going to be against the Chantry that's for sure.

 

 

Ever played Arcanum?   A guy turns up at the beginning of that offering to be your friend and insisting that you are the reincarnation of some important person that was prophesised.   You spend the game either playing along with it or vigorously denying it.

 

The Chantry people call you the Herald of Andraste because that fits their religious beliefs but you can deny it (the Devs said so).   I'm pretty sure that any Dalish you encounter aren't going to call you that.   May be they'll label you with something that fits their own faith (if you're an elf) or may be not at all.   Same applies to the any dwarves you encounter or Vashoth.     I doubt Iron Bull is going to call anyone "Herald of Andraste".

 

So I figure it is up to each person how they want to play it; actually believe they have been "sent"; not believe but play along with the title because it's useful to do so; or deny it continuously and insist people call you plain "Inquisitor".

 

I actually think there would be a lovely irony for my Dalish mage Inquisitor to be called "Herald of Andraste" by members of the Chantry.

I think it's only civilians and regular soldiers that believe in Andraste that will probably call you the Herald of Andraste.  I don't see the party members calling you that personally but I can see them referring you as such when talking to civilians and regular soldiers.

[LobselVith8]

Don't the Dalish respect Andraste herself for her helping to free the Elves?  I know they don't worship the maker but I was under the impression that they respected her for what she did for them.   If so being called the Herald of Andraste isn't necessarily an insulting thing for the Dalish.  When I get to my Dalish playthrough, i'm not going to be offended being called that but he is going to be against the Chantry that's for sure.

 

Andraste was a secular leader in the eyes of the Dalish and their ancestors, not someone with religious connotations.

[TK514]

Andraste was a secular leader in the eyes of the Dalish and their ancestors, not someone with religious connotations.

Genuine curiosity here; is that an assumption based on circumstantial evidence or do we have someone actually state that?

[LobselVith8]

Genuine curiosity here; is that an assumption based on circumstantial evidence or do we have someone actually state that?

 

It's mentioned in Keeper Gisharel's account of the Dales. He wrote, "You will hear tales of the woman Andraste. The shemlen name her prophet, bride of their Maker. But we knew her as a war leader, one who, like us, had been a slave and dreamed of liberation."

[CronoDragoon]

This interview seems relevant: http://www.polygon.c...age-inquisition

 

'Part of the ambiguity inherent to Inquisition is the central character, who emerges unscathed from a cataclysm and is heralded as a saviour, by some, while others are suspicious and hostile. You can choose to play up your status as a chosen one, even while you are unsure of your own destiny or origins.

"There's an interesting undertone here of people in the world believing that you have been sent as a leader by the maker of the universe," explained creative director Mike Laidlaw. "As a player, I have the option of saying, 'Oh yeah, I'm the chosen one' or asking what the hell they are talking about. It's up to the player."'

 

It certainly sounds like they plan on giving you the chance to disassociate yourself from the religious aspect of your role.

[LobselVith8]

This interview seems relevant: http://www.polygon.c...age-inquisition

 

'Part of the ambiguity inherent to Inquisition is the central character, who emerges unscathed from a cataclysm and is heralded as a saviour, by some, while others are suspicious and hostile. You can choose to play up your status as a chosen one, even while you are unsure of your own destiny or origins.

"There's an interesting undertone here of people in the world believing that you have been sent as a leader by the maker of the universe," explained creative director Mike Laidlaw. "As a player, I have the option of saying, 'Oh yeah, I'm the chosen one' or asking what the hell they are talking about. It's up to the player."'

 

It certainly sounds like they plan on giving you the chance to disassociate yourself from the religious aspect of your role.

 

I wonder if that's strictly in terms of how Andrastian humans perceive us, or whether the Dalish, Dwarves, and Vashoth may also have certain views about the protagonist, depending on the racial background.

[Reznore57]

This interview seems relevant: http://www.polygon.c...age-inquisition

 

'Part of the ambiguity inherent to Inquisition is the central character, who emerges unscathed from a cataclysm and is heralded as a saviour, by some, while others are suspicious and hostile. You can choose to play up your status as a chosen one, even while you are unsure of your own destiny or origins.

"There's an interesting undertone here of people in the world believing that you have been sent as a leader by the maker of the universe," explained creative director Mike Laidlaw. "As a player, I have the option of saying, 'Oh yeah, I'm the chosen one' or asking what the hell they are talking about. It's up to the player."'

 

It certainly sounds like they plan on giving you the chance to disassociate yourself from the religious aspect of your role.

 

I remembe this interview.

The thing I'm wondering is if we can pretend we're the "Chosen One" just to manipulate people...(it doesn't have to be evil or self serving...Maybe your character think people need to believe in miracles right now.) but behind close door you can say "No there wasn't any Maker , it was not a miracle..."