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[Jukaga]

My current Hawke is a force mage/spirit mage and while I find I am very useful in stopping crowds of humanoid mobs, I find my powers to be much less effective against monsters and specifically bosses. I typically root mobs, the hit them with tempests and chain lightnings until my mana runs dry then switch to healing aura for finishing things off. I find I'm kinda passive in boss fights as the force powers seem to do little to nothing to them so basically I heal and plink away with my staff. Is there something I should be doing spec wise that I'm missing? I'm a bit concerned about my coming duel with the Arishok, I understand he's immune to gravitic spells and I don't see the odd lightning blast doing much to him so what strategy should I go for, I don't want to do a cheesy last minute respec to a dps dynamo for the fight.

[Lulupab]

You'll probably need a respec for Arishok fight. As a spirithealer + force mage you should focus on getting the crowd control spells rather than damage spells. While spirit healer aura is active you cannot use "offensive spells". Offensive here means damage, if it doesn't deal damage then you can use it. Although spells that don't deal damage originally but deal damage once upgraded (such as horror or dispel magic) can still be used. Its the original spell that matters.

Also Arishok is not immune to that giant slow field, put it in middle of room and kite him. Stack lyrium potions because you will need them. Kite and attack, if he gets too close crowd control.

[Elhanan]

I advise not accepting the duel, and take on the entire Quanri force with a party; easier, and more enjoyable, IMO. You may wish to use gear that restores Mana; find this helps in my designs.

[Jukaga]

I advise not accepting the duel, and take on the entire Quanri force with a party; easier, and more enjoyable, IMO. You may wish to use gear that restores Mana; find this helps in my designs.

 

I like the duel because of Cassandra's reaction to it during the Varric storyteller cutscenes. She actually softens for a second and comments on how romantic it was (with a romanced Isabela) before sliding back into badass mode.

[Elhanan]

I like the duel because of Cassandra's reaction to it during the Varric storyteller cutscenes. She actually softens for a second and comments on how romantic it was (with a romanced Isabela) before sliding back into badass mode.

Admittedly, Romance is not my priority in games, and I was never interested in the character of Isabela anyway. Add the idea of kiting another Boss a la GoA, and I find that the tactical and party co-op experience of that battle wins easily over the RP.

And when kiting, I find figure 8's around the two pillars to be less tedious than simple runs around the perimeter; not much, but the dual barriers seem to help a bit.

[Lulupab]

if its not nightmare you can win the duel regardless of anything. The Arishok has 3x more hp in nightmare and spams potions.

[Lavaeolus]

I like the duel because of Cassandra's reaction to it during the Varric storyteller cutscenes. She actually softens for a second and comments on how romantic it was (with a romanced Isabela) before sliding back into badass mode.

 

I think she says romantic regardless of Isabela is romanced. When she says "romantic", she doesn't necessarily mean as in the love kind. More like the artistic/literary genre-slash-movement.

[tirnoney]

I like the duel because of Cassandra's reaction to it during the Varric storyteller cutscenes. She actually softens for a second and comments on how romantic it was (with a romanced Isabela) before sliding back into badass mode.

Heh. That's the reason I always duel him too.

I've mostly fought him on hard and only once on nightmare. Gravitic ring slows him a bit on NM but I didn't find it made a huge difference to the overall battle. The rest of the tree has no effect i've ever noticed. Mostly I use frost spells, crushing prison and haemorrhage, with horror and combustion grenades to stun him. It's still a slog.

I'm doing a new NM at the moment and I plan to experiment a bit when I get to the Airshok. I still feel like I'm missing a trick somewhere.

[mrs_anomaly]

I only play on Normal and Hard difficulties so far and I always play a mage. Agreed that force definitely seems to do squat to anything but mobs. Elemental magic, spirit damage, dodging plus getting Dog to distract him is the way to go IMO. I run a lot because he charges (which is scarrryyy for my little mage lol). Also paralysis glyph works on him. I used the paralysis glyph and when he was too close to me for me to dodge I used Cone of Cold (upgraded) which then gives you a chance to run and hit him with basic staff attack and any all all long range powers. Oh and also hexxes work on him! I love to throw a hex on him and then use staff and other spells. Disable then attack and dodge. 

[Hydwn]

Er, I'm really, really surprised people are saying not to duel him.  The easiest battle against the Arishok I ever had was force mage/spirit healer.  I didn't get hit once.

 

I used this spirit healer build with force mage secondary specialization and primal for combat.  I summoned dog, and then dropped a Pull of the Abyss on the Arishok.  He barely moved.  He was so slow that I only had to resummon dog once.  I mostly blasted away at him with a cold staff (lightning doesn't work on Qunari and I was primal not elemental).

 

For the record, this was hard mode.  Never tried on Nightmare, but alone there's no friendly fire to worry about.

[Elhanan]

I not only skip the duel because it is easier for me, but because it far less boring. The option to battle all of them offers more tactical decisions rather than Kiting.

[Magdalena11]

if its not nightmare you can win the duel regardless of anything. The Arishok has 3x more hp in nightmare and spams potions.

The only issue I've had a problem with was s&b warrior, even on nightmare.  The same strategies work, they just take a bit longer.  Root him. stun him. lock him. hurt him when you can, and run like he**.

[psychocandy]

Arishok duel as a mage is a cakewalk, spec to cold and it lasts about 5 mins,warrior Hawke is a kite fest and annoying