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[aTigerslunch]

Cats are made of glitter, and rainbows.

[Teddie Sage]

Cats are made of glitter, and rainbows.

... and poop granola chocolate bars... Too precious to kill.

Whoops? Sorry for the unpleasant thread hi-jacking. However, this is much better than the morbid thought of murdering characters for the sake of pleasing oneself.

[dekarserverbot]

People really hate DA 2 to the point to where they wish for all things having to do with it dead and gone. Which makes me wonder why Varric and Cassandra and Cullen get a free pass. Would they not invoke the memories?

 

don't get us wrong, Varric and Cassandra were the only cool characters there, else was either winny, useless or hopeless... killing the rest of the cast is making a favor to the world, even childers desserve a second chance if we compare them with Hawke

[Loyal Tevinter]

I'm curious what kind of personality Hawke will have in DAI. I couldn't kill Hawke if I had the choice.

[Teddie Sage]

don't get me wrong, Varric and Cassandra were the only cool characters there, else was either winny, useless or hopeless... killing the rest of the cast is making a favor to the world, even childers desserve a second chance if we compare them with Hawke

Fixed that for you.

[dekarserverbot]

Fixed that for you.

keep trying, ******, you forgot to add Cullen to my list

[BloodyTalon]

Still has me wondering if Hawke had an LI do they show has well, since Varric did say they didn't part from each other/

But to bad about it seeming like we can't kill Hawke.

[dekarserverbot]

Still has me wondering if Hawke had an LI do they show has well, since Varric did say they didn't part from each other/

But to bad about it seeming like we can't kill Hawke.

 

can`t we? he is either an enemy mage or an enemy templar for inquisition purposes

[TheEternalStudent]

can`t we? he is either an enemy mage or an enemy templar for inquisition purposes

What?
Why must Hawke be a mage or a templar?
If nothing else we rogues would just like it if you stopped fighting* and take care of the demons.
*so we can pick your pockets

[KBomb]

I don't get it... why does everyone want to (basically) kill the video game version of themselves

Avoid trying to add logic to the mix. It reminds me of the posts where people basically say, "I hate how Templars treat all mages the same because of a few bad ones. I hope this game lets me kill every templar I see!"

It's a funny little place, innit?

[Killdren88]

What?
Why must Hawke be a mage or a templar?
If nothing else we rogues would just like it if you stopped fighting* and take care of the demons.
*so we can pick your pockets

I think either siding with Templars or The Mages that chooses Hawkes affiliation for DAI.

[dekarserverbot]

How can you hate on this Paragon of manliness?

 

I thought posting Patrick Bale instead... but this guy is more lore friendly

[KaiserShep]

I think either siding with Templars or The Mages that chooses Hawkes affiliation for DAI.

 

This would be an extremely poor design choice if true. No way should Hawke's class be determined by the side chosen, and I'm sure there's plenty of simple ways around that.

[rocsage]

Cassandra: Champion, you must act

Hawke: sure.

<5 minutes later>

What's that quickly looming green rock?

The End.

[TheLittleBird]

don't get us wrong, Varric and Cassandra were the only cool characters there, else was either winny, useless or hopeless... killing the rest of the cast is making a favor to the world, even childers desserve a second chance if we compare them with Hawke

Fixed that for you.

keep trying, ******, you forgot to add Cullen to my list

 

I wasn't aware of the fact that you got an editor, dekarserverbot. Though I wonder why you'd give him such a name when 'Teddie' sounds to me like it'll do just fine.

 

So what you're saying is that every character featured in Dragon Age II other than Varric and Cassandra (maybe even Cullen, but it seems like you don't quite know yet if he made it on the list) was either useless, whiny, or hopeless, and you wish to see them dead? If that is your opinion, then I respect it. And I am certainly not opposed to the idea of being able to kill Hawke in Dragon Age: Inquisition or a future game, if that is what players want, but it does have me wondering about the attachment to a character that was given shape by those same players in the first place. After all, you were the one that decided what Hawke should or shouldn't do, and how they should handle the consequences of their actions. Isn't it odd that you'd want to kill your own creation? Now, I get that many people have problems when it comes to Hawke and being able to roleplay that character to a certain extent, I do. But why the desire to kill them? Wouldn't making them disappear simply be enough? Wouldn't you find fullfilment of your wishes in being able to, oh I don't know, send Hawke away at a critical moment? Why the need for violence in a situation like this?

 

I suppose it does not matter. What does matter is the fact that Dragon Age II lies behind us. Inquisition is on the horizon. Yes, Hawke will appear in that game, and yes they will remind you of how much you hated DA2, but there is no real reason to hold onto to that train of thought, to keep your mind filled with negative thoughts about the steps BioWare took a few years back with the franchise. Such a mindset might detract from your overall impressions of Inquisition, which will have an effect on how you view BioWare in the future. 

[Eralrik]

I still don't understand the hate for DA2 as I found it most enjoyable to play and I really enjoyed the characters, I played my Hawke Diplomatic and at times humerous, sometimes aggressive but very rarely, it was the mood of the conversation that would set me to my choice.

 

As I hate all things involving Slavers I totally agreed with Fenris and still managed to get him to spare his sister, none of my team mates were rivals all were positive and happy to be Hawkes friend and I was happy to be there's.

 

I liked Cullen though in DA:O after what he witnessed in the Tower I'm still not fully convinced he's totally sane and still doesn't have a personal vendetta against all Mages, but we'll see in DA:I.

 

The only things that kinda upset me about DA2 was the repeating landscapes & dungeons, the city I could see as those rarely change, the night time patrols in the city those were very annoying, Rogue's trap disarm was very lame and not fully finished in my opinion, an a few story issues that could have been handled better if the writers had gone back through and proofed and edited. 

 

But otherwise I've enjoyed playing Dragon Age 2: 27x's since it's release, Dragon Age Origins a tad more than DA2 above 30 something.

 

Cassandra I really enjoyed her character from the Movie though kinda miss the long hair & Varric he's the man with the connection's you need it he can get it for you.

 

I'll still continue playing all three games even with the Keep as I enjoy playing them and I enjoy each and every companion.

[aTigerslunch]

No, I doubt they will be any type of companion killing in this one.

 

Bioware is aware there are some that hate these characters but there are also some that love them. I like them. Anders was so well made that we made an opinion on him, majority hating him (me included, hate him a lot). Which means the character was done really well. Can say no, but if formed a strong hate or love for someone then their character made an impression to either be loved or hated. Sorry, its true. If someone didn't love or hate, they wouldn't care.

 

I have killed everyone I could in Origins, Awakening and DA2 in one play through of each, to see the way it ends in that scenario, but only once. I don't wish for more character killings in DAI though. I will at one point make it down to that one person left in one play through as it says is capable to do, like to see one of the worst possible endings doable, one time.

 

DA2 was great, I have many play throughs, though hate the repeated maps, is only thing that bothers me.

[dekarserverbot]

I wasn't aware of the fact that you got an editor, dekarserverbot. Though I wonder why you'd give him such a name when 'Teddie' sounds to me like it'll do just fine.

 

So what you're saying is that every character featured in Dragon Age II other than Varric and Cassandra (maybe even Cullen, but it seems like you don't quite know yet if he made it on the list) was either useless, whiny, or hopeless, and you wish to see them dead? If that is your opinion, then I respect it. And I am certainly not opposed to the idea of being able to kill Hawke in Dragon Age: Inquisition or a future game, if that is what players want, but it does have me wondering about the attachment to a character that was given shape by those same players in the first place. After all, you were the one that decided what Hawke should or shouldn't do, and how they should handle the consequences of their actions. Isn't it odd that you'd want to kill your own creation? Now, I get that many people have problems when it comes to Hawke and being able to roleplay that character to a certain extent, I do. But why the desire to kill them? Wouldn't making them disappear simply be enough? Wouldn't you find fullfilment of your wishes in being able to, oh I don't know, send Hawke away at a critical moment? Why the need for violence in a situation like this?

 

My own creation? are you serious? how could it be my own creation if it was the most useless human in Dragon Age saga? (even Lloyd have more powers) the only thing i could choose in the entire game was Romance Merill, each was totally ignored (btw i'm not into elven girls, they are too damn bonney for my tastes) else was a dialogue well that tried to mimic ME one but without any response from anyone. I want to kill him for what it represents, in fact i could kill his/her love interest first and then Hawke, I want to get that option, killing Hawke would make me forgive even the restricted weapon issue

[Killdren88]

don't get us wrong, Varric and Cassandra were the only cool characters there, else was either winny, useless or hopeless... killing the rest of the cast is making a favor to the world, even childers desserve a second chance if we compare them with Hawke

So your argument is that Cassandra and Varric get a pass because they are cool? Especially Varric considering he was Hawke's accomplice in the whole situation?

[dekarserverbot]

So your argument is that Cassandra and Varric get a pass because they are cool? Especially Varric considering he was Hawke's accomplice in the whole situation?

Cassandra had nothing to do with Hawke, and Varric is just a bard...

[Killdren88]

Cassandra had nothing to do with Hawke, and Varric is just a bard...

 

Okay Cassandra that is a fair point, how can you say Varric is guiltless in what happened to Hawke? That's just unfair.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

You can try to kill Hawke, but then Varric drills you between the eyes, your saves are deleted, you get banned from Origin/PSN/xboxlive, your PC/console explodes and your home town gets invaded by killer bees from Thedas, because consequences

[PhroXenGold]

I still don't understand the hate for DA2 as I found it most enjoyable to play and I really enjoyed the characters, I played my Hawke Diplomatic and at times humerous, sometimes aggressive but very rarely, it was the mood of the conversation that would set me to my choice.

 

What "hate" I have for DA2 is aimed sqaurely at what it could've been with a bit more effort and time. Reading through this thread, particularly Marshall Moriarty's posts, reminds me just how good the setting and story were for most of the game. It was a beautifly refreshing change from "you're the chosen one, go save the world". The city and characters just seemed much more believable than most fanatsy settings. The conflicts in the game likewise, no "evil overlord trying to take over the world", just people with different beliefs and positions driven to the extremes. Hawke is a fanatstic protragonist, provided, unlike some people in this thread, you accept that (s)he is not a complete blank slate. Hawke has an underlying personality and an underlying set of values. And while you can shape them to some extent, you cannot fundamentally change them. On top of this Hawke is limited by the circumstances, particularly in the first act. (S)He just doesn't have the reputaiton, position or resources to act freely - (s)he's just a refugee that's made a bit of a name for themselves amongst the lower classes.

 

But then there are the obviously rushed bits: the final chapter as a whole. The resuse of interior areas. The half-assed changes to combat, which introduced some great ideas (e.g. the removal of healspam), but then threw in spawning enemies and horribly tedious boss battles.

 

DA2 is a odd mix of brilliant and frustratingly poor. It's just such a pity Bioware didn't have another 4-6 months of development to get the entire game up to the level the story and setting deserved. Still, I've certainly got my money's worth from it, as I've done 3 complete playthroughs and a couple more partial ones and thoroughly enjoyed them.

 

I really hope the reaction to the rushed parts of the game don't make Bioware shy away from more games with a similar style of setting and storytelling in the future, as there was so much promise in them

[TeamLexana]

I really hope of Hawke gets a cameo, then the Warden will as well because I am much more of a fangirl over my Warden then Hawke. I just tolerated Hawke, while I LOVED all of my Warden's.

[Generic Guy]

My rogue Inquisitor will be Chantry fanatic, with an autroritarian streak, and anti-mage; while my Hawke in that playthrough was a sociopathic mage anarchist. I would hope that Bioware at least gives us the option of being hostile to Hawke, rather than dumbstruck fanboy/fangirl who can't stop gushing on how awesome Hawke is.