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[volkoff]

Knowing how BSN operates I was expecting "Can we Romance Him/her?" Heh..how egotistical would one need to be to romance themselves.

if i could i would do myself without hesitation... but im not that limber ! unfortunately.... would be taking the 'love thyself' to a whole new level


really would love if hawke had a mayor-ish role in DA:I. would've liked if he could've been a companion. i really liked the hawke character. especially with some of his sarcastic/snide/joke-ish comments. together with varric and isabella it was just amazing. ''... the wounded coast. i wonder if that's near the injured cliffs. or the limping hills. massive head-trauma bay ?''

 

 

why do people wanna kill their previous characters so much?

might be a normal human reaction, arent we constantly evolving our persona ? constantly killing off our old self ?



about hawke; i liked him, he tried to make the world a better place. (and my hawke tried to be the stability of the city) problem is, without clairvoyancy you cant know how your actions will impact the future. it's like saying democracy is pure evil because hitler was able to gain power and do what he did through that system. (not saying that democracy is a good system)

yes, he might've 'freed' corypheus (if he is still alive). but chances are he would've become free at some point. i think it's better to have him where he is now (since i think he is in a weakened state, correct me if i'm wrong.). and atleast the wardens now know that he is gone. if they knew he is able to jump body's (dont know that, i dont follow lore that much) then they're able to prepare from the get-go. considering if he became free at some point(since the wards were failing if i remember correctly) the wardens probably wouldn't know about it this fast without hawke doing what he did because there were dwarves, and dark-spawn. and all kinds of contraptions which they couldn't get through. and even if they got through then if they freed him they couldn't do anything but cower in a corner or be subverted in some way shape or form by corypheus.

not to mention; did he even know about the possible jumping into a warden?
 

 

So killing someone because they might be bad or killing people because something bad might happen if they live (but you have know idea) would be alright? Because to me, murder is never the solution.

 

And who Hawke kills for less is up to the player. My Hawke never killed anybody who didn't attack him first or asked to be killed because they were waiting a horrible end.

 

if what he did was an mistake (it was) where he had no knowledge off or had evil intent. the most practical thing to do in wartime would be to use him and let him make amends for the mistake's that he made. hawke could easily be a valuable asset
 

 

 

I'm not sure why Anders should even be Hawke's responsibility. It's not like she even brought that joker to Kirkwall, and you can ignore him after getting what you need from him anyway. That she doesn't simply murder him after his freakout in Dissent doesn't change anything. Choosing not to kill people you know doesn't make you responsible for the crazy choices they might make later. Hell, Anders could just as well have hung himself in the clinic dealing with this Justice issues for all we knew.

 

some people consider anders to be pure evil; i consider him misguided. misguided for letting justice in. justice was affected by anders and anders was affected by justice, to the point anders broke.(which was the point he killed that person.) they were feeding off each other, both of them changed. anders tried to regain control, but failed. he's might become an anti-hawke.

hawke tried to do the right thing but made some errors. anders did something horrible (intentionally) but it might've been the thing that thedas needed... fire, although destructive, can also be cleansing.
 

[Tevinter Soldier]

I'm not saying we should Kill hawke. I'm just saying, let's tear holes in the veil and let the problem sort itself out. 

[Eterna]

I did stop caring. That was until Bioware decided to pick at the proverbial scab. If they're going to fanservice back in Hawke for one part of the fan base [the part with horrible taste] then they might as well give the other [reasonable] part of the fanbase some fanservice too

 

I wish this forum had a dislike button. 

[dekarserverbot]

I wish this forum had a dislike button. 

you can't dislike someone's comment just for telling the truth

[Maeshone]

you can't dislike someone's comment just for telling the truth

Except there's no truth to saying people who liked Hawke have no taste while people who disliked Hawke have superior taste. Because opinions on characters all comes down to personal preference. And people who imply otherwise really don't deserve to be taken seriously as they tend to just be trolling for reactions.

[dekarserverbot]

Except there's no truth to saying people who liked Hawke have no taste while people who disliked Hawke have superior taste. Because opinions on characters all comes down to personal preference. And people who imply otherwise really don't deserve to be taken seriously as they tend to just be trolling for reactions.

Eterna started the trolling, i see no offense in any other post, probably it was just Drasanil poor selection of words, but i don't blame him, many people suffer of that, including myself.

[Chanda]

Knowing how BSN operates I was expecting "Can we Romance Him/her?" Heh..how egotistical would one need to be to romance themselves.

 

Ugh, I wouldn't want to romance myself. I'd be so... Boring.

 

Kinda makes me feel bad for my husband.

 

 

Edit: Which brings the thought to my head, "Real life is boring, that's why I play video games."

[Drasanil]

Except there's no truth to saying people who liked Hawke have no taste while people who disliked Hawke have superior taste. Because opinions on characters all comes down to personal preference. And people who imply otherwise really don't deserve to be taken seriously as they tend to just be trolling for reactions.

 

Whilst the question of 'taste' is entirely subjective, my own as much as anyone else's with regards to Hawke. The fact that Hawke was just as, if not more, despised as s/he was loved by the fanbase does not render the main point of the statement invalid.

 

Doubly so given the context in which it was made, namely the big reveal that Hawke would show up in DAI. Therefor, if they are bringing Hawke back as a form of fanservice for the people who liked Hawke, then equally they should give the people who didn't like Hawke the option to kill Hawke for those very same reasons; fanservice.

 

If they aren't bringing Hawke back for those reasons, then odds are Bioware is still either 1) delusional with regards to how poorly DA2 was recieved [doubtful given the year-long delay and the extra effort they put into DAI], or 2) it is some attempt to redeem Hawke as a character. Which is just as likely as not to blow up in their face for coming across as the above should they fail to provide the players with the ability to pass judgement on their attempt. 

 

By all means if they want to redeem Hawke, or salvage DA2's legacy, they could and should try, but they shouldn't deny those of us who disliked the game the opportunity to express our opinions on the matter in game should they fail to do so. I doubt they want a repeat of the 'everyone must love Tallis' precedent from MotA.

[Gtdef]

You people are odd. Hawke is a major player in the events of the Dragon Age series. Bringing him back makes sense. After all the reason Seekers came to Kirkwall was to enlist him.

 

Liking or disliking Hawke doesn't matter in the slightest. What matters is if the writers decide to railroad the story and blow it. If they do the minimum of what is expected of them then this will turn out fine.

 

Even if we have to ally with Hawke, as long as the game doesn't force us in actions that assume we like him and we want to be best friends with him, it's fine again.

 

There will be some plot points that we just have to accept. Just like we had to deal with factions and the Landsmeet in DAO and the Qunari in DA2. It's part of roleplaying in a limited environment like video games.  

 

I understand why Cullen for example can be seen as fanservice. He is some idiot templar that they decided to make important. But this does not apply to Hawke. 

[Eterna]

you can't dislike someone's comment just for telling the truth

 

Yes I can. 

 

But that's irrelevant as it wasn't the "truth" anyways. 

[Maeshone]

Whilst the question of 'taste' is entirely subjective, my own as much as anyone else's with regards to Hawke. The fact that Hawke was just as, if not more, despised as s/he was loved by the fanbase does not render the main point of the statement invalid.

 

Doubly so given the context in which it was made, namely the big reveal that Hawke would show up in DAI. Therefor, if they are bringing Hawke back as a form of fanservice for the people who liked Hawke, then equally they should give the people who didn't like Hawke the option to kill Hawke for those very same reasons; fanservice.

 

If they aren't bringing Hawke back for those reasons, then odds are Bioware is still either 1) delusional with regards to how poorly DA2 was recieved [doubtful given the year-long delay and the extra effort they put into DAI], or 2) it is some attempt to redeem Hawke as a character. Which is just as likely as not to blow up in their face for coming across as the above should they fail to provide the players with the ability to pass judgement on their attempt. 

 

By all means if they want to redeem Hawke, or salvage DA2's legacy, they could and should try, but they shouldn't deny those of us who disliked the game the opportunity to express our opinions on the matter in game should they fail to do so. I doubt they want a repeat of the 'everyone must love Tallis' precedent from MotA.

Well yeah, I have no illusions about how people felt about Hawke. I mean, I know I'm an outlier as I enjoyed my time with DA2 more than I did my time with DAO. Sure, let people react to Hawke the way they want, he/she is after all a key figure of the mage/templar war, possible on the opposite side of the Inquisitor. I just found the whole comment about superior/inferior tastes a bit irritating, but I could have read it as being more serious than it was actually intended.

[Reaverwind]

You people are odd. Hawke is a major player in the events of the Dragon Age series. Bringing him back makes sense. After all the reason Seekers came to Kirkwall was to enlist him.

 

 

 

You mean Hawke was the sidekick to the major players. Hawke was little more than a glorified errand boy. And if drop-kicking him/her off the nearest convenient cliff isn't an option, I hope that ignoring him/her is.

[Dr. Rush]

Normally I don't love the idea of killing characters. But there is something about Hawke. Maybe its just the name, which I've never liked. Or maybe its just that I never enjoyed playing as Hawke, either male or female. But I actually would like to kill Hawke. I think he was a poorly designed character/protagonist and maybe the best story arc that can ever happen in Hawke's timeline is the character's death. 

[Sir George Parr]

Whilst the question of 'taste' is entirely subjective, my own as much as anyone else's with regards to Hawke. The fact that Hawke was just as, if not more, despised as s/he was loved by the fanbase does not render the main point of the statement invalid.

 

Doubly so given the context in which it was made, namely the big reveal that Hawke would show up in DAI. Therefor, if they are bringing Hawke back as a form of fanservice for the people who liked Hawke, then equally they should give the people who didn't like Hawke the option to kill Hawke for those very same reasons; fanservice.

 

If they aren't bringing Hawke back for those reasons, then odds are Bioware is still either 1) delusional with regards to how poorly DA2 was recieved [doubtful given the year-long delay and the extra effort they put into DAI], or 2) it is some attempt to redeem Hawke as a character. Which is just as likely as not to blow up in their face for coming across as the above should they fail to provide the players with the ability to pass judgement on their attempt. 

 

By all means if they want to redeem Hawke, or salvage DA2's legacy, they could and should try, but they shouldn't deny those of us who disliked the game the opportunity to express our opinions on the matter in game should they fail to do so. I doubt they want a repeat of the 'everyone must love Tallis' precedent from MotA.

If you purchased the guidebook for DA2, then the idea that there would be something to do with Hawke in this new game is teased in the guidebook epilogue,sure enough bioware appear to have come good on the tease, As female Hawke appears in a trailer. The epilogue also teases Morrigan and an inquisition being at the heart of the next Dragon Age title, Which have all turned out to be correct. So it can be read as something that was planned all along and not for reasons of fanservice. 

[cephasjames]

Do we know how back Hawke is? Maybe s/he dies in the initial event that gives the Inquisitor his/her powers.

[Faerlyte]

I am more inclined to hang Hawke's shortcomings on the heads of the writers.

[Mr.Hmm]

I for one liked Hawke.

[aTigerslunch]

I liked Hawke as well. 

[Gold Dragon]

As did I.  And Hawke was seen in the trailer facing that big bad creepy thing.  Which is probably towards the end of the game.

[Monster A-Go Go]

Having just replayed DA2 fully braced for its shortcomings, I can honestly say that I think Hawke was great.  All the haters must not have chosen the sarcastic dialogue often enough.

[KaiserShep]

Whilst the question of 'taste' is entirely subjective, my own as much as anyone else's with regards to Hawke. The fact that Hawke was just as, if not more, despised as s/he was loved by the fanbase does not render the main point of the statement invalid.

 

It's not really a fact that Hawke is just as, if not more so, despised as s/he was loved by the fanbase. This is simply conjecture.

 

Anyway, this whole idea of salvaging DA2's legacy or redeeming Hawke is a joke. There's nothing that could possibly be done in Inquisition that will change the most vocal critics' opinions of either the game or the character anyway, so there's no point in even trying, because no matter what Hawke says or does, DA2 is a fixed point in the series. Of course, this assumes that the writers even agree or even care about what people think about that character at this point, since the game is not about her. They're better off just writing the story as they intend to write it, and not bother to cater to people who just want this and that to satisfy their hate lust or something.

[aTigerslunch]

Considering some parts of Inquisition was to be DLC for Hawke, it makes sense that we get to see that.  Its not redeeming Hawke or anything, their story wasn't exactly finished. That DLC got integrated into Inquisition.  So, it doesn't bother me one bit.  Even if the Warden showed up, just saying, wouldn't bother me either, as we would be able to cc them.

[Maferath]

I'm all for the option of trying to kill Hawke. It should also lead you to a game over screen as Varric shoots you in the back.

[Muspade]

I'm all for the option of trying to kill Hawke. It should also lead you to a game over screen as Varric shoots you in the back.

 
Amen, brother.

Don't bring Varric with you on that mission, or Cassandra.

[blussi]

Sarcastic Hawke is one of the best things Bioware has ever done.