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[sunnydxmen]

if you can kill hawke  and varric finds out through bringing or word of mouth. he will try to kill you too.

[Little Princess Peach]

if you killed the chapion she/he is going to make a comback in the next game they tend to do that

[Teddie Sage]

I'd probably laugh out loud if killing off Hawke would result as an instant gameover. *You failed the Inquisition!* The end.

[Ruairi46]

I'm interested if somehow Hawke can join the inquisition? If that's not an option, I'd like to lock my hawke under lock n key in skyhold?

[Whatnow12012]

We, really don't know enough on Hawke or what Hawke has been up to since DA 2 ended, or what Hawke has been doing since the events leading up to the events of Inquisition.

 

Hawke could be simply a Lost Soul just wondering Thedas, Hawke is alone, has no purpose, devastated at the events of Kirkwall, Her entire Family Died in Kirkwall, 1 right after another.

 

Hawke could be simply a Mercenary now killing people for money sort of like in the Movie The Scorpion King being in the same situation where Mythaius lost everything, & now simply wants Money or Gold.

 

Hawke could also just be a Traveling Nomad wondering the Lands, we just don't know, but in reality I don't think Hawke would actually take a side being good or evil.

 

But I do know if you play Inquisition on Default, Hawke will be a Mage who sided with the Mages, but it isn't known which Gender Hawke will be if you play Inquisition on Default.

 

Hawke would obviously change drastically if you use DK APP to import Hawke's choices into Inquisition, but on Default, Hawke is a Mage who sides with Mages.

 

I doubt we would Kill Hawke in Inquisition, more than likely a Cameo Appearance being similar towards Drunk Allistair in Dragon Age 2 or King Allistair being a very brief appearance in Inquisition.

 

More than likely do to the Mage Conflict is likely when we meet Hawke during either Side Mission or Story of Inquisition during some point in the game.

 

I don't expect anything OMG about this deal, it will be very brief encounter with Hawke.

 

Hawke will also be different depending on if you use DK APP or if you play Default.

[Elite Midget]

I doubt it'll be brief, I'm sure Hawke will appear more than once and will help you fight a boss or two before going off to do their own thing.

[Drasanil]

All these hipsters making threads about killing popular characters just so they can be different 

 

 

... did someone make a thread about killing the Warden!? 

[Johnny Shepard]

if you killed the chapion she/he is going to make a comback in the next game they tend to do that

Yeah, they made that mistake in the first game with having you being able to get everybody but Ogren and Morigan killed. When they did Origins I don't think they had planed to reuse any characters in a sequel but they characters got so populare and people really wanted to see them again. That's why you can't get most of your companions killed in DA2 because it just turned in to a huge mess. They tried to keep the world state in DA2 (exept for Leliana) but from what I have heard it wont be like that in DA:I. Rumor is that Alistair will be there as King no matter what. Wynne and Shale are alive in Asunder and even though Gaider said the book was a "What of..." I think they are considered alive. All of them are easy to explain (except Leliana who can get her head chopped off) since you never see Alistair die (unless he kills the Archdemon), Wynne have survived death before and Shale is a Golem so we don't know if they really can be killed like normnal or if they can be revived.

The only playable character we can expect to not see or just have a cameo are Anders.

 

Anyway, my point is don't expect important characters being killed off in DA:I unless it's important for the story!

[Johnny Shepard]

 

... did someone make a thread about killing the Warden!? 

There was one long ago that I remember were some wanted Bioware to kill him off in a game so that we got a final end for the character.

[Killdren88]

if you can kill hawke and varric finds out through bringing or word of mouth. he will try to kill you too.

For those who hate DA2 they would jump at the chance I'm sure. With all these people wanting to Kill Hawke they should be also looking at Varric since he was Hawke's accomplice.

[Marshal Moriarty]

The party are not some band of psychopathic killers, that they would want to kill a priest in cold blood. Sebastian, Bethany, Merill, Carver and Aveline would all have grave objections to anything like that. Aveline certainly isn't above killing people who deserve it, but that really only covers genuine scum like slavers, sexual predators and the like. She would definitey view Petrice as dangerous, because she is using her privileged position to stir up trouble, But to outright murder her, when she values justice and the rule of law so highly? Not likely - she may *eventually* have come round to the idea that it might be necessary, if Petrice had kept on scheming and not acted openly. But to say that at the very first meeting, she would go vigilante and kill a priest is ludicrous.

 

As to the rest of the party, Varric and Isabela attach no particular moral problems to killing irritating people, but they also don't like hassle. Petrice is a chantry sister, and her death is the very definition of a big deal. Varric will frequently comment that he doesn't like getting involved in disputes with the city's big factions (Qunari, Chantry, Blood Mages, Demons etc). He's happy to crack some heads on the streets, swindle people, make shady deals, do some breaking and entering etc etc - but any time you look like you're going to do something which will annoy the real movers and the shakers in the city, he is much less enthusiastic. Killing Petrice can not bring anything but trouble, both to you personally and to the general tempo of the city. Isabela likewise isn't shy about killing people, but she kind of needs a good reason (for good reason, read 'will net her some kind of tangible profit'), and preferably not have it be someone too important (she's really nervous about the whole Castillion thing, because he's such a big fish with a long reach). She also expresses her desire to never mess with the Qunari again, after they prove so relentless (and especially when Fenris outlined exactly what would have happened if they'd caught her). Isabela doesn;t like Petrice at all, but she knows that killing her, will bring a world of trouble, and even she has her limits, as she already has all the trouble she can handle. She's all for reckless swashbuckling, but as her final meeting with Castillion make clear, she isn't some crazed killer - she just wants fun, adventure and profit with no strings attached, and no grudges held at the end. What she doesn't want are mobs of angry zealots and chantry types all looking to lynch her over killing some woman she couldn't really care less about.

 

As for Fenris... its hard to say, really. Fenris doesn't really *care* about very much (or at least he tells himself that he doesn't). He is however a good man, and even quite a devout man in his own way (as Sebastian uncovers). He is also however wise in the ways of people, and surely recognises Petrice for the scheming viperess that she is. My feeling is that he probably doesn't have an opinion (at first anyway). He has such a generally low opinion of pretty much everyone you meet, for one reason or another. He almost certainly doesn't care about killing her in the same way he actively wants to kill slavers like Danzig or monsters like the magistrate's son. But neither would be particularly bothered if the party decided to kill her, I think. He's not wild about killing Templars, because he respects what they are doing, but Petrice has obviously not got enough genuine nobility and decency in her to fill a thimble. So for me, Fenris is probably the only member of the party who wouldn't *really* care that much if you killed Petrice. Everyone else would though, either for moral or practical 'do we really want to get involved in this?' concerns.

 

As for evidence, as has been stated, her followers require no evidence. The suspicion is enough, and as the Viscount and Arishok agree on (a rarity, so you know it must have some merit), these people act in the shadows, precisely because their beliefs and accusations are so flimsy that they wouldn't stand up to proper scrutiny and challenges. The chantry hardliners are looking for reasons - any reasons - to have a go at the Qunari. All it would take is some 'We have eyewitness accounts who *saw* the Qunari do this!' and some actual bribed and/or coerced 'witnesses' to parade at their various rallies, and they'd have mobs taking to the streets by morning.

 

Evidence is what Hawke, the Arishok (after being convinced by Hawke anyway), and the city authorities need, to give them the mandate they need to take action. Acting against Petrice means acting against a faction within the Chantry and that is extremely delicate political ground. The Chantry does not like being implicated in such dark deeds, and will not tolerate intrusions by the city without proof. On the other hand, they are reluctant to investigate themselves, because of fears they might find some truth in the matter. The zealots won't believe any kind of evidence that implicates them in wrongdoing, but its still necessary to win over the trust of the public at large - i.e the people who are undecided as to who has the right of this dispute. The people are torn between what the chantry main body and city authorities are saying (that everyone should calm down and not take any rash actions), what the chantry hardliners are saying (that its their duty to rise up and expel the Qunari), and what the Qunari themselves and their supporters are saying (that they pose no threat, did not come to conquer the city or destroy the chantry, and will move on when their business is concluded). 

 

Just saying 'Hawke cou;d just murder Petrice and have done with it' is an over simplication of grostesque proportions. Her death would be inflammatory, it would martyr her, and it would be a grave action for Hawke and her companions to undertake. Even at the end of the game, after everything Meredith has done, and her very public meltdown and rampage, it is hugely controversial that Hawke kills her, because she was the Knight Commander. Once Cassandra has the facts, and the knowledge that Meredith forced the confrontation herself, then she eases up. But it shows how much of a big deal it is to act against the Chantry and its agents. Doing so when you have no legal justification (and even worse just outright murdering Petrice in cold blood), would be viewed as utterly indefensible. And again, whether Hawke is caught for the crime or not, the shockwaves of such an act would have the city up in arms - it wouldn't ease tensions as you claim, but would rather exacerbate them.

[dekarserverbot]

If Hawke dies without a choice I'm done with DA.

I will instead be happy about it... it would be just taking out the garbage.

[viciouswhisper]

I will instead be happy about it... it would be just taking out the garbage.

wtf? youre taking out garbage? you mean yourself? i dont know if you know this but its our characters. i didnt spend over 100 hours building up two characters just to throw them away

[Teddie Sage]

wtf? youre taking out garbage? you mean yourself? i dont know if you know this but its our characters. i didnt spend over 100 hours building up two characters just to throw them away

Same here. It really offends me to see people trashing DA2 because it wasn't perfect to them. I loved and cherished my characters and companions even when there are people out there who wanted Hawke to be the Grey Warden 2.0.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

Same here. It really offends me to see people trashing DA2 because it wasn't perfect to them. I loved and cherished my characters and companions even when there are people out there who wanted Hawke to be the Grey Warden 2.0.

Is annoying that DA2 gets so much hate, especially when the same people attack you for daring to enjoy any part of it, is not like its problems were unique either, the ME series had similar issues but people easily ignore them apart from ME3 which seems to be as hated as DA2 is with certain people

[Vilegrim]

my question is: tell the useless non-entity to sling their hook.

[tmp7704]

The real question is what happens if Hawke decides to use his/her own murder knife to kill the inquisitor first

[Nightwing99]

Hawke  is like the Dragon Age version of Rieden from Metal Gear I know many  players  wanted to kill  Rieden after Metal Gear 2

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

DA:2 legacy spoiler below.

 

A brilliant plot twitst would be if Corypheus possessed Hawke and not that warden when he died and stayed dormant for many years - not taking control of hawke before the inquisition. We would then welcome Hawke during the Inquisition and set hawke in a vital position of our choosing. Then the setback (if the leaks are true) would be cory using hawke to majorly *F* up your inquisition.

[Johnny Shepard]

I am so tired of this thread...

[KaiserShep]

I doubt it'll be brief, I'm sure Hawke will appear more than once and will help you fight a boss or two before going off to do their own thing.

I'd love to have the previous protagonists join the Inquisitor for one big battle at the end. That would pretty much make the game win my heart, provided it doesn't do that long beforehand.

[Drasanil]

wtf? youre taking out garbage? you mean yourself? i dont know if you know this but its our characters. i didnt spend over 100 hours building up two characters just to throw them away

 

I really love this attitude of: you played DA2 therefor Hawke is yours and you absolutely must feel some attachment to her because I did.

 

Hawke is not 'my' PC. I don't feel any sense of attachment to her, as far as I am concerned she's pretty much a glorified [and annoying] NPC companion that I was unable to get rid of. Hopefully I'll get the chance to do so in DAI.

[Killdren88]

I really love this attitude of: you played DA2 therefor Hawke is yours and you absolutely must feel some attachment to her because I did.

 

Hawke is not 'my' PC. I don't feel any sense of attachment to her, as far as I am concerned she's pretty much a glorified [and annoying] NPC companion that I was unable to get rid of. Hopefully I'll get the chance to do so in DAI.

 

Good luck getting Varric on your side unless you have a rivalry standing in DA2.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

I really love this attitude of: you played DA2 therefor Hawke is yours and you absolutely must feel some attachment to her because I did.
 
Hawke is not 'my' PC. I don't feel any sense of attachment to her, as far as I am concerned she's pretty much a glorified [and annoying] NPC companion that I was unable to get rid of. Hopefully I'll get the chance to do so in DAI.

Is perfectly ok if you dislike Hawke & want him/her dead, is your own opinion afterall, just gets insulting when you imply that anyone who dares not to agree with you is some kind of idiot with bad taste

[Satanus92]

The Inquisitor invites Hawke for a dinner, and suddenly they starting to play The Rains of Castamere.