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Dragon Age Inquisition will probably have the lowest Completion rate of any modern Bioware game. Would that matter to Bioware?


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Huh? As in, they played 40% of ALL the ingame content?
 
Or only 40% finished the game?


Only 40% finished the game.

I think they should take completion rates with a grain of salt... I've started and stopped tons of characters in both DAO and DA2, but that doesn't mean I dislike the game... there are too many reasons why a person would do this to take such data seriously.


If you've finished the game once, then you count for having completed the game.

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As others have said, I think completion rates do not show, what some think they show. I usually only complete a game once, to see the ending. If I like the game, I play it over and over again, but rarely play through to the end again. If I like the game, I also usually buy all the DLC. So depending on how these things are counted, I could have started fifty games, but only completed one. What does that do to their statistics?



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As others have said, I think completion rates do not show, what some think they show. I usually only complete a game once, to see the ending. If I like the game, I play it over and over again, but rarely play through to the end again. If I like the game, I also usually buy all the DLC. So depending on how these things are counted, I could have started fifty games, but only completed one. What does that do to their statistics?


Then you count as someone who's completed the game.

It's a binary. You've either finished the game or not. When they say that only 40% finished, they're not including DLCs, only the vanilla game.

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That's actually high rates compared to most games on the market.   Pull up any game in Steam you might have that lists an achievement for finishing the game and you would very shocked at how many have never finished the game, much less completed 100% of it.



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I think even Borderlands 2 had a low completion rate based on Steam achievements. Just the way gamers are these days.

I'm the type of gamer who buys very few games but plays the hell out of the few I buy.
other gamers buy everything going when it's on sale, play for 5 minutes and move onto the next one the skews stats a little.

In short it doesn't matter.
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IMO it shouldn't matter whether complete game or not. If you enjoy your time playing & feel you got your money's worth then thats all that matters



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I just looked up Witcher 2, which is of touted as a "great game" to compete with other AAA fantasy titles out there.    Only 14% of people finished the game on ANY difficulty setting.

 

So no, pretty sure completion rates don't matter much to developers.    It is very likely the 10-20% of fans loving or hating a games release that drive many of the quasi-interested players to either buy or not buy a game.    So pleasing the minority fan base with a large game is still in the interests of the developers to do. 



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Completion rate Conscretion bate, the sales and player reviews will decide biowares next course of action.



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I don't see why that would matter to BioWare. at all.

 

Finishing the game is rarely my priority.



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Its a good question. I don't really have an answer to it though. 150 hours is a long time to hold most peoples attention. I am a bit concerned about the pacing and progression and what effect that has on gameplay.

 

I would be shocked if it took me anywhere near 150 hours to finish the story though. Even though I like sidequests, I tend to follow what seems like the urgent or important storylines first. I don't ever wander around aimlessly if I have a purpose/current quest. I finished ME1 the first time in just over 7 hours and it's one of the reasons I don't like elder scroll games. I'm predicting 20-30 hours for me if there is no unavoidable padding like planet scanning.

 

 

Edit : For all of the people saying it doesn't/shouldn't matter, it is a lot of resource to devote to what the vast majority of people never see. I think it is important. The question should really be how important.



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Only 40% finished the game.

 

Then how can anyone take the metacritic score or the complaints of fans seriously when they didn't even finish the game?

 

Also 36% completion for Origins, considering how good Origins was, seems dreadful.



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No , why should it? Future games should not be shortened cause people can't find the time to finish them.



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I assume it's completion per registered copy of the game, not completion per playthrough started. If it's the latter my personal completion rate is probably under 5% given my penchant for rerolling.

Oooooh... so you're saying we only get counted once?  Okay, that would probably be a more useful statistic... I figured they counted all playthroughs since they seem to track data for how many times we play as such and such race, how many times we did the Dark Ritual, and so on... but I could be wrong.



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Oooooh... so you're saying we only get counted once?  Okay, that would probably be a more useful statistic... I figured they counted all playthroughs since they seem to track data for how many times we play as such and such race, how many times we did the Dark Ritual, and so on... but I could be wrong.

They do track at least some of it. They provide some feedback some of the time. When they did it for ME3 (or it might have been 2) they revealed that someone had completed it 27 times.

 

 

Out of curiosity how many people who bought it completed the campaign that came with NWN? Only Bioware game I never finished.



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Then how can anyone take the metacritic score or the complaints of fans seriously when they didn't even finish the game?

 

Also 36% completion for Origins, considering how good Origins was, seems dreadful.

 

We don't.



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Also 36% completion for Origins, considering how good Origins was, seems dreadful.

 

True story: eight people in my social circle bought Origins. Only two of us finished it. One guy had too many technical problems, the other five thought it was too long and too difficult.

 

The other person who finished it only did so once. (Naturally, I'm the crazy statistical outlier that killed the Archdemon nine times.)


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I am glad it will take so long to complete the whole damn thing, tired of shelling out good money for a 5 hour game. And yes I fully plan to finish the game.


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Then how can anyone take the metacritic score or the complaints of fans seriously when they didn't even finish the game?[/size]

It doesn't take long to figure out if you're enjoying a game nor to have an informed view of its technical merits.

- User interface
- Graphics and aesthetics
- Sound design
- Encounter design
- Camera
- Feedback to player actions
- Quality of voice acting
- Whether combat is interesting
- Novelty of gameplay or setting

I can usually figure out how good all these things are in under an hour. As D. H. Lawrence supposedly said, "I don't have to eat the entire omelet to know that it's bad."

There are aspects of a game that require you play most of it, or all of it. Deciding whether you like it or not, which is what metacritic reflect, is not one of them.
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As long people buy it, I don't see why it should matter to them.

 

Personally, I'm stoked. I love long-ass RPGs, like in the old days.


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1. I personally don't care whether other people finish the game. 2. Those people who don't complete the game have still paid the full price of the game, so I doubt Bioware really cares if they finish either.



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I completed DA:O on both the PC and Xbox.

 

I didn't ever register either copy online though. My Xbox wasn't even online back then, and I don't let programs on my PC send data back and forth unless its necessary.

 

 



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Not to mention all those characters people create and regret half way through the game.



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Then how can anyone take the metacritic score or the complaints of fans seriously when they didn't even finish the game?

 

Also 36% completion for Origins, considering how good Origins was, seems dreadful.

 

People took those metacritc scores seriously? I mean other then those that bombed it the moment it was possible to do so.



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I completed DA:O on both the PC and Xbox.
 
I didn't ever register either copy online though. My Xbox wasn't even online back then, and I don't let programs on my PC send data back and forth unless its necessary.


BioWare has data from over a million users. That you went into options and clicked the 'opt-out' checkbox doesn't make much of a statistical difference.

People took those metacritc scores seriously?


Yes.

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Seeing as this game F***ing Dwarfs all of Bioware's previous titles both in terms of map size & content with an apparent 55 hour main Campaign ONLY completion average... I'd be amazed if more than 30% of the players who buy this game actually finish it.

 

DA:O had a 36% completion rate

DA:2 had a 40% completion rate

 

Some of, if not all of the levels are larger than the previous Games entire play space combined. Can't expect many players to put the time or effort into seeing even 1/2 of what this game has to offer considering these areas are so huge.

 

So my question is how would Bioware respond if the completion rates for DA:I were lower than DA:O's? Would it alter the design of future titles or are completion rates inconsequential as long as the game Sells well?

 

Do low completion rates it actually matter? What do you guys think?

 

Why would they care as long as people buy the game. How many people bought skyrim and completed it? Does it matter as long as the company gets the sells than need?