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[ziloe]

You know... it just occured to me, but does anyone find it weird that they chose to reveal Hawke and potentially the Warden in the "Enemy" trailer.

How would you feel if it turned out you'd have to fight your old self, because they'd been corrupted? Or simply didn't agree with your ideals. i.e a Hawke who is pro mage, while you are pro Templar, etc etc.

[dsl08002]

You know... it just occured to me, but does anyone find it weird that they chose to reveal Hawke and potentially the Warden in the "Enemy" trailer.
How would you feel if it turned out you'd have to fight your old self, because they'd been corrupted? Or simply didn't agree with your ideals. i.e a Hawke who is pro mage, while you are pro Templar, etc etc.

I think its about the bigger picture, a greater enemy behind it all.

I BELIEVE when the warden slayed the archdemon he/she recieved an ability from the archdemon to resist the corruption from coryphyas, when the soul of the old god went transferd through the wardens soul to the old god baby.

You might have inherited something when it happened. That is a good and satisfying explanation.

That is my opnion and i stand for it

[KaanGuner1]

I think its about the bigger picture, a greater enemy behind it all.

I BELIEVE when the warden slayed the archdemon he/she recieved an ability from the archdemon to resist the corruption from coryphyas, when the soul of the old god went transferd through the wardens soul to the old god baby.

You might have inherited something when it happened. That is a good and satisfying explanation.

That is my opnion and i stand for it

 

I would love that but don't you think that would need some hard canon? As in Leilana lived and Alistair King stuff... Because now it's controversial whether The Warden lived and was the one who did Awakening and TWH I think such an important point as you emphasized cannot come to be.

 

Most thing I hate about writer's choices is really not making The Warden going through DR canon. Because it somehow downplays the Awakening, TWH IMPOV.

[ziloe]

I think its about the bigger picture, a greater enemy behind it all.

I BELIEVE when the warden slayed the archdemon he/she recieved an ability from the archdemon to resist the corruption from coryphyas, when the soul of the old god went transferd through the wardens soul to the old god baby.

You might have inherited something when it happened. That is a good and satisfying explanation.

That is my opnion and i stand for it

Well sure, but we had other trailers they could have appeared in. But the enemy one? Just seems a bit suspicious.

As for the Warden surviving and gaining something from it, I dunno. I mean if it wasn't for the ritual with Morrigan, the Warden's soul is destroyed. That's why they say it's the greatest sacrifice, because you're not just dying, your essence is gone too.

So while the Warden is still alive, who's to say his soul is even still there?

[ziloe]

I would love that but don't you think that would need some hard canon? As in Leilana lived and Alistair King stuff... Because now it's controversial whether The Warden lived and was the one who did Awakening and TWH I think such an important point as you emphasized cannot come to be.

 

Most thing I hate about writer's choices is really not making The Warden going through DR canon. Because it somehow downplays the Awakening, TWH IMPOV.

Maybe it's been too long, but I'm not familiar with your abbreviations, so your statement is confusing.

[ziloe]

Seems the forum is slowing down once again.

[dsl08002]

Seems the forum is slowing down once again.

We just have to keep talking about wardens appearance in game and story, then some idiot will show up to say that the wardens story is over because he/she just made the US. Then the arguments will start flying again

[KaanGuner1]

Well the thing is, it is not and that's for sure. Even if you kill the Warden with US you have Orlesian Commander. And because of the Awakening and The Witch Hunt he is like the most important Grey Warden at the moment, or maybe at the history of Grey Wardens. The thing is who the hell is he? I don't like the idea having someone canon who we don't even know the slightest to accomplish such deeds. It would all been perfect if our original Warden were to gone through DRitual, Awakening and Witch Hunt. I mean I know there is no 'canon' but I'm just saying it should have been! When you think about DA:2 it's only natural that Hawke would side with the mages IMPOV. Considering DA:O is one game with DLCs Our Warden should share the biggest pie from the default category. If not for anything because of the characteristics of the story. I mean Grey Wardens killed the Archdemon four times and four times they have died. Now that we have the chance to live and it is OUR character that can live, it should be! Then there must be a crucially important character that will deal with problems in Awakening... It makes sense that it would be Our special Warden.

 

It just makes you feel disconnected right now. It will only revealed once we play the game but I hope the most natural outcome won't feel like some side-story just to exist in the Inquisition.

[Ailith Tycane]

You know... it just occured to me, but does anyone find it weird that they chose to reveal Hawke and potentially the Warden in the "Enemy" trailer.

How would you feel if it turned out you'd have to fight your old self, because they'd been corrupted? Or simply didn't agree with your ideals. i.e a Hawke who is pro mage, while you are pro Templar, etc etc.

 

I already had to deal with that nonsense in SWTOR, so no thanks. 

[ziloe]

We just have to keep talking about wardens appearance in game and story, then some idiot will show up to say that the wardens story is over because he/she just made the US. Then the arguments will start flying again

Makes sense.

[dsl08002]

Well the thing is, it is not and that's for sure. Even if you kill the Warden with US you have Orlesian Commander. And because of the Awakening and The Witch Hunt he is like the most important Grey Warden at the moment, or maybe at the history of Grey Wardens. The thing is who the hell is he? I don't like the idea having someone canon who we don't even know the slightest to accomplish such deeds. It would all been perfect if our original Warden were to gone through DRitual, Awakening and Witch Hunt. I mean I know there is no 'canon' but I'm just saying it should have been! When you think about DA:2 it's only natural that Hawke would side with the mages IMPOV. Considering DA:O is one game with DLCs Our Warden should share the biggest pie from the default category. If not for anything because of the characteristics of the story. I mean Grey Wardens killed the Archdemon four times and four times they have died. Now that we have the chance to live and it is OUR character that can live, it should be! Then there must be a crucially important character that will deal with problems in Awakening... It makes sense that it would be Our special Warden.
 
It just makes you feel disconnected right now. It will only revealed once we play the game but I hope the most natural outcome won't feel like some side-story just to exist in the Inquisition.

I think you misunderstood what i said mate

[ziloe]

I already had to deal with that nonsense in SWTOR, so no thanks. 

If it's been done before, don't you think they'll know how to implement it better this time around?

[KaanGuner1]

Sorry It was like a monologue on my part. Wasn't exactly a response to you.

 

TOR really destroyed what KotOR stood for. Exile getting stabbed, Revan getting reduced to nothing. Just don't make me remember it. But in KotOR's case there were different writers for each one AFAIK.

[ziloe]

Sorry It was like a monologue on my part. Wasn't exactly a response to you.

 

TOR really destroyed what KotOR stood for. Exile getting stabbed, Revan getting reduced to nothing. Just don't make me remember it. But in KotOR's case there were different writers for each one AFAIK.

I wouldn't know. I didn't play Kotor beyond a day. Wasn't crazy about it.

[KaanGuner1]

Let's hope it's going to worth the wait.

[ziloe]

Let's hope it's going to worth the wait.

Indeed!

[MissMayhem96]

As much as I would love to see My Dalish Warden come back, I'm sure it's just a Orlesian Warden replacement, it can't be Carver because with default mage hawke, Carver has black hair, not blonde.

[ziloe]

As much as I would love to see My Dalish Warden come back, I'm sure it's just a Orlesian Warden replacement, it can't be Carver because with default mage hawke, Carver has black hair, not blonde.

Not really sure why anyone would assume it was Carver in the first place, given it doesn't even look like him in the slightest.

[ShaggyWolf]

If it's been done before, don't you think they'll know how to implement it better this time around?

 

I don't think I'll ever find killing my previous PC's a palatable experience, regardless of the circumstances. And I dunno about anyone else but the only way my Warden would be doing anything other than renegade-flavored heroics is if he survived his calling and turned into a ghoul... which as a Reaver would be entirely possible

 

I don't think he did anything that would logically result in him being corrupted into some evil entity that would oppose saving the world, so if that actually happened I'd be pretty upset. Same with Hawke, since my Hawke is your typical friendly-neighborhood good guy.

[ziloe]

I don't think I'll ever find killing my previous PC's a palatable experience, regardless of the circumstances. And I dunno about anyone else but the only way my Warden would be doing anything other than renegade-flavored heroics is if he survived his calling and turned into a ghoul... which as a Reaver would be entirely possible

 

I don't think he did anything that would logically result in him being corrupted into some evil entity that would oppose saving the world, so if that actually happened I'd be pretty upset. Same with Hawke, since my Hawke is your typical friendly-neighborhood good guy.

What if your Warden romanced Morrigan and Morrigan turns on you? Who do you think he'll side with? She's the mother of his child. I'd be surprised if that happened and you both didn't have to fight.

[dsl08002]

What DAI will try to explain is what importence hawke and warden in the game but,

There have been four years between the event of DA2 and DAI and that is an unexplored territory, bioware can actually go nuts with stortelling right there. Its a long time and you can squeeze in a long griping story right there. Like warden and hawke join together for an adventure.

Im guessing after DA2 ending everyone assumed it would like that

[ziloe]

What DAI will try to explain is what importence hawke and warden in the game but,

There have been four years between the event of DA2 and DAI and that is an unexplored territory, bioware can actually go nuts with stortelling right there. Its a long time and you can squeeze in a long griping story right there. Like warden and hawke join together for an adventure.

Im guessing after DA2 ending everyone assumed it would like that

Well, I think a lot was covered via the comics. Though, it was a shame not to see Hawke in any of them, and obviously if the canon Warden is dead, we won't hear anything from them either. Still, they were interesting either way, minus the revelation for Alistair's father... that... I could have done without.

[dsl08002]

But what im most worried about is that Bioware has stated that their canon Warden is Dalish and made the ultimate sacrifice and is dead. but if you Warden is alive and well it is possible that the alive warden has the same level kind of significance as a dead one.

 

That is my greatest fear our warden is alive but Bioware might make it convenient on themselves to give them same kind of importance and will not have a place in DAI at all.  

[ziloe]

But what im most worried about is that Bioware has stated that their canon Warden is Dalish and made the ultimate sacrifice and is dead. but if you Warden is alive and well it is possible that the alive warden has the same level kind of significance as a dead one.

 

That is my greatest fear our warden is alive but Bioware might make it convenient on themselves to give them same kind of importance and will not have a place in DAI at all.  

I still feel it would diminish the Warden far too much, not to have him/her in DA:I. Were three of the Warden's potential romances NOT in this game (this includes Alistair), it wouldn't be a big deal to me, but as long as they exist, it will always be a lost opportunity to not do it.

[KaanGuner1]

I think no one can deny that how they are going to handle Warden's story is going to be crucial to Dragon Age franchise itself.