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[dsl08002]

If bioware had put a CC in DAK a whole lot of problems could have been solved.

 

you could have altered your appearance and then choose a voice that would fit. for your character.

 

but lets not dwell on this 

[Starscream723]

Just retcon it so that your Inquisitor IS your Warden. He or she is simultaneously saving Thedas from the horrors above while also investigating the mystery of why some of the people he/she knows have developed amnesia and no longer recognise him/her. The backstory given to you is false too, and part of the same mystery. What could be causing this? Eh, it's probably mages.

[polemists02]

I feel like this is a continuation of hawke story and less the wardens. I get based on da 2 ending a full reunion makes sense but doesn't seem in the cards. Maybe they are saving warden for da4 cause it relates more to him. No idea but I am okay with it.

[raging_monkey]

Its all still a load of **** lol

[Nayawk]

How? 3, potentially 4 of their romances are there. How does that make sense, if you go to Ferelden to meet Alistair and his wife (your warden), isn't there? Or regarding Morrigan, if you had the OGB and romanced her? Where are you? Do I really need to go on? xD 

 

The Warden is missing, this is everyones world state, doesn't matter if she is queen or he is commander of the grey, they are missing and have been for awhile .... a comment along the lines of "the warden is missing, boo hoo, I'm so sad" or "the warden left for a super secret mission to save the world yay" from the romance NPCs is all that is needed. 

 

Would a cameo be nice, yes. Does it *have* to happen for the story to make sense, no.

[Jwlpo]

where the heck have you been for the last three years?

Every company makes mistakes
I was a person who actually liked the
Mass effect 3 ending

It was the only way they could really retire shepard without everyone asking for Retirement dlcs or something

[standardpack]

It might even be better that the Warden is included in a DLC (not necessarily completely revolving around him however, got to take that US ending into account for some people after all) rather than the actual main story.  That way for the people who wish he would simply stay gone (or dead as the case may be) they just simply don't play the dlc.

[dsl08002]

It might even be better that the Warden is included in a DLC (not necessarily completely revolving around him however, got to take that US ending into account for some people after all) rather than the actual main story.  That way for the people who wish he would simply stay gone (or dead as the case may be) they just simply don't play the dlc.

The problem with having a dlc with the warden is that DLc:s has an tendency stand alone and not really connect to the story in overall. If you have LI or familiar faces like, leliana, morrigan, allistair, Cullen and so on. Then it is better to include it right away in the story with the voice actors.

[standardpack]

The problem with having a dlc with the warden is that DLc:s has an tendency stand alone and not really connect to the story in overall. If you have LI or familiar faces like, leliana, morrigan, allistair, Cullen and so on. Then it is better to include it right away in the story with the voice actors.

 

And that might be for the best.  There are plenty of people out there who have expressed their dislike of the idea that their warden will show up in Inquisition, with one of the main concerns is that many did the Ultimate sacrifice.  So having the warden have a big impact on the story or any at all would already cause problems.  Instead giving him/her a stand alone story would throw a bone to people who wanted to see them and for those who didn't want them to show up, a choice to simply not play it.

[Little Princess Peach]

Ok. I've vented enough. I'm still disappointed at their decision. But it's their game and their story and they're doing what they think is best. Still a little heated over the ambiguity and the unnecessary hype machine created after the Enemy of Thedas trailer, but these things happen. I'm begrudgingly back to optimism. Hopefully whatever they decide to do with the Warden is rewarding and fulfilling. Hawke is still Hawke and I don't have to like it, but Inquisition looks great and it seems like it's the true successor to Origin's legacy.

But that dev said if they bring back our CHRACTERS hence more than one we can change them so even if it's not in the main game we might see them some other form maybe mp, mp would be perfect for the warden since they can't talk

[dsl08002]

And that might be for the best.  There are plenty of people out there who have expressed their dislike of the idea that their warden will show up in Inquisition, with one of the main concerns is that many did the Ultimate sacrifice.  So having the warden have a big impact on the story or any at all would already cause problems.  Instead giving him/her a stand alone story would throw a bone to people who wanted to see them and for those who didn't want them to show up, a choice to simply not play it.

True enough but isnt it so that if you made the US then you have nothing to worry about, i personally feel that if people made the US those havnt got the right to say that warden shouldnt appear at all to thos who wants the warden to make an appearance. Some people made US yes, but i can be safe enough to say that the majority of fans wardens are still alive.

Second when bioware painted themself in the corner with the DA2 ending it brought the warden back into the story. I always felt that bioware never had a clear mind of what to do when they released DA2. When having a dlc there is only a limited things you can do. Conversations will be limited and really lacking deep which if you are trying to conclude the wardens story it wouldnt be satisfactory . But involve the warden in the story will give players more context, fluently and more significance.

But never mind getting a bit off topic here .

[dsl08002]

The Warden is missing, this is everyones world state, doesn't matter if she is queen or he is commander of the grey, they are missing and have been for awhile .... a comment along the lines of "the warden is missing, boo hoo, I'm so sad" or "the warden left for a super secret mission to save the world yay" from the romance NPCs is all that is needed. 
 
Would a cameo be nice, yes. Does it *have* to happen for the story to make sense, no.

For the stor maybe. But everyone wants a closure and considering that bioware left the story open after DA2 or WH (depending what action you took.) it just fuel warden fans as myselfthat it isnt over. Because bioware has to resolve this, the whole disappearance thing isnt going to work.

[raging_monkey]

Confirm on twiter HoF is a no show at best a reference(s)

[ziloe]

The Warden is missing, this is everyones world state, doesn't matter if she is queen or he is commander of the grey, they are missing and have been for awhile .... a comment along the lines of "the warden is missing, boo hoo, I'm so sad" or "the warden left for a super secret mission to save the world yay" from the romance NPCs is all that is needed. 

 

Would a cameo be nice, yes. Does it *have* to happen for the story to make sense, no.

That's a copout. Regardless, it's unlikely we'll see Morrigan or the other love interests in the next game, so now is an appropriate time to have the Warden show up, to interact with them, otherwise people who may have romanced the others, may feel slighted if the Warden does show up, and only one of the love interests is in the next game.

[AlexiaRevan]

The Warden next to Hawke..I always though it was Alistair . I only played females wardens..so it certainly not mine

 

I think we either were misled OR we misled ourself into thinking DAI will follow up from DAO . It seem , that the warden were there for the first setting for a serie . But as more games come out afterward , they are trying to introduce something new and put the old stuff further in the background . 

 

Do I want to see my Warden again ? Sure I want to . 

Do I want to see my Warden in DAI ? Nope . 

If they bring the warden back , I like them to do it right or not at all . Meaning , do it fair . Bring both gender female/Males , all the outcome possible and our chosen Li . Or don't do it at all . I do not care for cannon . Cannon is bs and kill my choices . 

 

Do I want to see the Warden in a DLC? nope . A DLC is usually short and can easely be discarded . Just like I don't want to see a story about Flemeth stuck on a few hours of gameplay on a DLC . I think both have a large back story that a DLC would cheapen what they represent to us . 

[thedistortedchild]

I just hope that the characters involved with my warden mention that they know where s/he is. To me it makes little sense for a warden who went through the eluvian with Morrigan to just up and abandon her. THe same goes for most of the other wardens.

[ziloe]

I just hope that the characters involved with my warden mention that they know where s/he is. To me it makes little sense for a warden who went through the eluvian with Morrigan to just up and abandon her. THe same goes for most of the other wardens.

Yeah, pretty much. Plus, even for the Alistair one, it contradicts things if your human noble married him, because he does mention them as his "ball and chain", so it would be odd to know he's coming back, but that we won't see his wife.

[Nayawk]

Yeah, pretty much. Plus, even for the Alistair one, it contradicts things if your human noble married him, because he does mention them as his "ball and chain", so it would be odd to know he's coming back, but that we won't see his wife.

 

Alistair mentions that to Hawke years before Varric and Cass have their little chat and we the player learn that both Hawke and the Warden are gone, that gives the Warden plenty of time to go poof.  

[Brockololly]

I'll actually be happy if the Warden is a no show. What I'd love for BioWare to try in a future DA game would be having multiple playable protagonists breaking up the story, so that you could play as a previous protagonist like the Warden or Hawke, and in that way they wouldn't be stuck doing out of character things in some throw away cameo. Little references from other NPCs and such can end up being satisfying, so long as the references make sense based on the kind of Warden that you played in Origins or Hawke in DA2.

 

All that said, it seems really stupid of BioWare to basically introduce the whole "Warden disappeared!" plot line at the very end of Awakening, then reinforce that plot line with the practically "TO BE CONTINUED!" ending to DA2 dramatically stating that both the Warden and Hawke disappeared. The Warden's story was pretty well settled with the epilogues to Origins or the end of Witch Hunt if you romanced Morrigan. But dredging up Morrigan and other old LI's as NPCs in Inquisition will just necessitate the question of what your Warden is doing in the absence of their LI's, which inevitably ends up with BioWare ruining head cannon epilogues for people's Wardens.

 

Time will tell if the story of Inquisition is worth it, I guess.

[ziloe]

Alistair mentions that to Hawke years before Varric and Cass have their little chat and we the player learn that both Hawke and the Warden are gone, that gives the Warden plenty of time to go poof.  

Still, for that to happen, it's a little weird. I mean I'd understand if it were the Warden going through the Eluvian with Morrigan, but with her returning, there needs to be an explanation as to what happened and it needs to be something more then just, "Oh, they're busy."

[wtfman99]

Not happy about this. I just wanted my warden to have a happily ever after with Leilani but they bring him up at the end of dragon age 2 and now he won't evem be in da:I? Kick in the nuts

[Nayawk]

Still, for that to happen, it's a little weird. I mean I'd understand if it were the Warden going through the Eluvian with Morrigan, but with her returning, there needs to be an explanation as to what happened and it needs to be something more then just, "Oh, they're busy."

 

Maybe there is, nobody knows how that will play out.  But explanation does not automatically mean 'must have a cameo', which seems to be the sticking point.  

 

I get the feeling that Bioware could write the best damn explanation known to man and some people would still complain because they wanted to 'see' them.

[Starscream723]

1) They can give the Warden a 'voice' if they can bring Leliana 'back from the dead'.

 

You know, something just occurred to me. I've been accepting this whole "The Warden's voice won't match my imagination" thing as a valid point, even though it's completely based on a false premise - that the Warden didn't have a voice.

 

I have just remembered that this isn't even true.

 

Sure, the Warden wasn't fully voiced in all dialogue scenes, but that was to do with the sheer number of lines that would need recording for all the different race/genders. Now the dialogue may not have been voiced, but EVERY SINGLE ONE of my Wardens DEFINITELY had a voice, demonstrated in the game. So since the Warden already has an established voice, any other voice you may "headcanon" doesn't matter. Since any appearance by the Warden would likely not be a HUGE role (yeah, I know they're not appearing, I'm talking hypothetically here) then they would not have all that many lines to record with the different voices. Voice acting isn't an issue here, and I'm suddenly baffled as to why I and so many others randomly accepted this notion that the Warden never spoke. Can I get you a ladder, so you can get off my back? 

[Tielis]

I'm pretty dang sure that's Warden Alistair, goofy look and everything.