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The Warden in the Enemy trailer is NOT your Warden, says Mike Laidlaw.


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God I hope not. That looks nothing like Alistair, especially not a ten years older Alistair.



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Just retcon it so that your Inquisitor IS your Warden. He or she is simultaneously saving Thedas from the horrors above while also investigating the mystery of why some of the people he/she knows have developed amnesia and no longer recognise him/her. The backstory given to you is false too, and part of the same mystery. What could be causing this? Eh, it's probably mages.

 

You know, something just occurred to me. I've been accepting this whole "The Warden's voice won't match my imagination" thing as a valid point, even though it's completely based on a false premise - that the Warden didn't have a voice.

 

I have just remembered that this isn't even true.

 

Sure, the Warden wasn't fully voiced in all dialogue scenes, but that was to do with the sheer number of lines that would need recording for all the different race/genders. Now the dialogue may not have been voiced, but EVERY SINGLE ONE of my Wardens DEFINITELY had a voice, demonstrated in the game. So since the Warden already has an established voice, any other voice you may "headcanon" doesn't matter. Since any appearance by the Warden would likely not be a HUGE role (yeah, I know they're not appearing, I'm talking hypothetically here) then they would not have all that many lines to record with the different voices. Voice acting isn't an issue here, and I'm suddenly baffled as to why I and so many others randomly accepted this notion that the Warden never spoke. Can I get you a ladder, so you can get off my back? 

 

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Am I being delusional or biased or The Warden's story with DR and going Elvuian with Morrigan is perceived as the canon the most among users? I really feel like most players who chose to play the game went with that.



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Am I being delusional or biased or The Warden's story with DR and going Elvuian with Morrigan is perceived as the canon the most among users? I really feel like most players who chose to play the game went with that.

 

I think it's the most sequel-hooky of the resolutions, which is why people obsess over it. Warden Dies? Story Done. Alistair Dies? Story done. Loghain dies? Story done. Morrigan has an OGB? Sequel hook. There isn't much to fixate over with the other plot resolutions in Origins.

 

I never could go through the Eluvian, because my Wardens were women and the baby, when it existed at all, was usually Alistair's. But the vast majority of players played male human nobles, and I'd be willing to bet that most of them if they romanced anyone romanced Morrigan (or Leliana, I guess, if she ninjamanced them). There's also the whole thing with taking BSN obsessees as the norm, which they are decided not. Most players don't romance anyone.


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My 'primary' playthrough (dalish/m/rogue), where I just did whatever I felt without RPing a particular style, the Warden died killing the Archdemon.

 

My a-hole playthrough (human/m/warrior), he romanced Morrigan and went through the Eluvian with her. Nobody died killing the archdemon. Alistair became a drunk, Loghain did whatever he does.

 

My goody-goody playthrough (human/f/mage), she romanced Alistair, but had him do the ritual with Morrigan so neither of us died. However she did apologetically stab Morrigan at the Eluvian when she caught up with her for her scheming.



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I think it's the most sequel-hooky of the resolutions, which is why people obsess over it. Warden Dies? Story Done. Alistair Dies? Story done. Loghain dies? Story done. Morrigan has an OGB? Sequel hook. There isn't much to fixate over with the other plot resolutions in Origins.

 

I never could go through the Eluvian, because my Wardens were women and the baby, when it existed at all, was usually Alistair's. But the vast majority of players played male human nobles, and I'd be willing to bet that most of them if they romanced anyone romanced Morrigan (or Leliana, I guess, if she ninjamanced them). There's also the whole thing with taking BSN obsessees as the norm, which they are decided not. Most players don't romance anyone.

 

I believe Gaider once said that, based on their telemetry, the majority of players romanced Leliana, so Morrigan is not the "default" at all. That does not mean a lot of players did not romance her, but she is not what the majority went with.



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I'm not sure if we're allowed to post it, let alone talk about it, but the Warden's son may be making an appearance, according to some art work. And what's so special about it, you ask? He's wearing a grey warden's emblem as a necklace. :o



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I'm not sure if we're allowed to post it, let alone talk about it, but the Warden's son may be making an appearance, according to some art work. And what's so special about it, you ask? He's wearing a grey warden's emblem as a necklace. :o

I recall reading on TV tropes that if Morrigan has a son, she calms down a bit from how she was in Origins. That said, it was on TV tropes, so I'm not sure to what extent it's trustworthy.



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I recall reading on TV tropes that if Morrigan has a son, she calms down a bit from how she was in Origins. That said, it was on TV tropes, so I'm not sure to what extent it's trustworthy.

I believe it was taken from something Gaider said way back, that she had grown up a lot since the events of Origins, much of it no doubt due to being a mother.



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Guess people have lost hope for this thread. D:



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Initially I was OK with the prospect of only seeing Hawke (because Hawke's story never got the same sort of closure as the Warden's)

But then the Enemies of Theda's trailer showed Hawke and "a" Warden and all I could think about was how badass it would be to have all three protagonists team up for a boss battle.

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Am I the only person who watched the Enemy of Thedas trailer, saw the man standing next to Hawke, and thought "I guess they finally made Garevel a Grey Warden"?



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All that said, it seems really stupid of BioWare to basically introduce the whole "Warden disappeared!" plot line at the very end of Awakening, then reinforce that plot line with the practically "TO BE CONTINUED!" ending to DA2 dramatically stating that both the Warden and Hawke disappeared. The Warden's story was pretty well settled with the epilogues to Origins or the end of Witch Hunt if you romanced Morrigan. But dredging up Morrigan and other old LI's as NPCs in Inquisition will just necessitate the question of what your Warden is doing in the absence of their LI's, which inevitably ends up with BioWare ruining head cannon epilogues for people's Wardens.

 

Time will tell if the story of Inquisition is worth it, I guess.

 

Bioware already did all of that in DA:A, so I just don't get the surprise at them doing it again in DA:I. They made it pretty clear they're railroading everyone into a set path for the character from the second piece of DA media. 


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#439
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They should know better by now. The big theme for Inqusition, and what people loved about Origins, is customization. The warden is not the same for everyone. My warden cannon warden is a selfcentered dalish who romanced Zevran and did the DR because she couldn't stand to risk loosing her life. Your cannon warden could be a Jerk Ass who burnt ferelden to the ground in every way possible and then let alistair take the final blow, so he could be king.
Those two character should not be railroaded into "disappeared" status. With no explination for why. Why would my self centered dalish leave her lover? Why would the freaking KING disappear?
Railroading is not what people play Bioware games for.


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Those two character should not be railroaded into "disappeared" status. With no explination for why. 

 

As has been said repeatedly by the dev's and has appeared over and over in this thread, the Warden and their status will be addressed. I don't know why this "no explanation" idea is even an issue.



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I believe Gaider once said that, based on their telemetry, the majority of players romanced Leliana, so Morrigan is not the "default" at all. That does not mean a lot of players did not romance her, but she is not what the majority went with.

 

Really most players romanced Leliana? This surprises me a little.  

 

Though I did have two romances with her. One Warden was just crazy for her and the other started off with Morrigan but seemed to grow more fond of Leliana.


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Am I the only person who watched the Enemy of Thedas trailer, saw the man standing next to Hawke, and thought "I guess they finally made Garevel a Grey Warden"?

I dunno. That Warden looks far too young to be Garavel.



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UPDATE:

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Hmm. Interesting.

 

Some sort of off-screen presence I suppose, doing things of note while you're not around.

 

Really most players romanced Leliana? This surprises me a little.  

 

Leliana's available to both genders, so it never surprised me much tbh.



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Sadly it could be a cheap story, quickley made up.

My biggest fear is that it will be a Mass effect ending scenario. That people take what they can get even though the solution is awful.

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Am I the only person who watched the Enemy of Thedas trailer, saw the man standing next to Hawke, and thought "I guess they finally made Garevel a Grey Warden"?

He *DOES* look like Garevel 



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I think that i can be bold enough to say that what everyone wants is actually a reunion scene with the LI from DAO. We may never get that in the near future having the VA available. Because it seems a good oppurtunity to have that in DAI.

And i need to get this of my chest, then i can finally move on:

I believe that bioware can involve the warden,

they just dont want to.

I believe that bioware CAN import the wardens appearance, find a good sets of voices to the warden, find a good way to include the warden in the story. If there is ONE company that can make the impossible happen then its Bioware.
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oh im so happy they didnt include the warden, id rather not feel the dread of what sort of creature will be standing infront of me when i meet them. 



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Well, my Warden died in my primary playthrough. So I guess I'll have to wait until Playthrough 2 until I find out what this story is. Which means staying off the forums even after completing the game once, until I've been through it a second time.



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Hmm. Interesting.

 

Some sort of off-screen presence I suppose, doing things of note while you're not around.

 

 

Leliana's available to both genders, so it never surprised me much tbh.

 

I didn't think of that. She seemed to have a lot of haters too, it left me with the impression she wasn't very popular overall.

 

For me, I'm starting to wish that Bioware would just leave my Warden alone.  Everyone of them earned their rest. ;)