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The Warden in the Enemy trailer is NOT your Warden, says Mike Laidlaw.


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What if by "not our Warden", he means that it is the Hero of Ferelden but not ours. One that Bioware created for the purposes of the trailer.



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That was not the Warden from Origins.  From Laidlaw's twitter.
 

1) That was Hawke that appeared in the trailer. Players will be able to have Hawke look appropriate/gender via customization.

 

2) The character beside Hawke in that trailer shot is not the Hero of Ferelden / PC of Origins.

 

That is all. I will not be answering questions about how or story. The game will answer those.


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I have few guess who it is.

 

1) Warden Alistair

2) Carver with bug hair color

3) The Warden from orlais.

4)A brand new character


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That was not the Warden from Origins.  From Laidlaw's twitter.
 

1) That was Hawke that appeared in the trailer. Players will be able to have Hawke look appropriate/gender via customization.

 

2) The character beside Hawke in that trailer shot is not the Hero of Ferelden / PC of Origins.

 

That is all. I will not be answering questions about how or story. The game will answer those.

 

Not PC of Origins doesn't mean it's not PC of Awakening. ;P


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That could also be the character that takes the place of Your Warden if you chose to sacrifice yourself at the end of Origins.

 

Meaning that if you didn't sacrifice yourself, your Warden would be there instead of him.

 

Though Mike Laidlaw's comments make this seem unlikely.



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The issue with the Warden is that they were never fully voiced, whereas Hawke was.

 

This means that we can set Hawke's class, personality and appearance in the Keep and the Inquisitor will be able to interact with a fully voiced Champion of Kirkwall.

 

The Warden on the other hand would have to be mute throughout the encounter, which would be weird in a game where everyone is fully voiced or BioWare would have to pick a voice for the Warden which would cause fan uproar.

 

I'd guess that the Warden will be mentioned but won't appear in DA:I


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So it looks like the options for who this dude is are:

 

1) Grey Warden character we've never met, with his importance ranging from "random fella" to "super important NPC"

 

2) Grey Warden Alistair with the face run on the new engine, accounting for how different he looks; even Hawke looks quite different on Frostbite, so this is possible

 

3) Grey Warden Carver with a hair glitch (since every iteration of Carver has black hair, ditto Bethany) - seems unlikely since this trailer went through quite a lot of review, but they were getting eye colors wrong for a while, so maybe!

 

4) Orlesian Warden-Commander - I'll admit I never played Awakenings, so I don't know what the "default" human male looks like - can anyone verify if any of the presets resemble this dude? I ask because it looks like the trailer is based on Bioware's own internal world-state, with the default mage Hawke, so if that's the Orlesian Warden-Commander, then it might make sense for his appearance to be based off of one of DAA's default looks.

 

5) The Hero of Ferelden if your world-state has the Hero survive the Blight. Meaning that who accompanies Hawke in this scene is based on your previous choices (much like how Alistair only shows up at the end of Act 2 in DA2 if he was remained in the Grey Wardens, otherwise he shows up as a king or a drunkard (or not at all) at other times)

 

I'm hoping that the answer is either 4 or 5, depending on world-states, but honestly I think it'll be an interesting person no matter what. As to why I think this guy's going to be significant to the story - I don't, I just hope so. Ever since playing DAO I've been really intrigued by the Grey Wardens as a group, and I'd love to learn even more about them in DAI.


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It would actually be kinda cool if it was Hawke's bro or sis, depending on the choices. But have the VAs for them even been confirmed? Or...


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You know, I'm beginning to wonder how well Hawke customization will go if Forstbite has limited long hair options.



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Why do you all believe that this is the orlesian warden? I'm 99% sure that this is NOT the orlesian warden. It still would be "your" warden. And why does the canon matter? You would either have the origins-warden show up or the orlesian warden (if you did the ultimate sacrifice). They would have the same role in DA:I.

 

And furthermore: Why would Mike immediately confirm Hawke, but would actually deny the warden, if it would just be our "other" warden?

 

If the blond dude is not just a new NPC, my guess would be that he replaces Carver if he died in DA2


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Yeah, there's really no way my Wardens would wear that mass-produced Grey Warden get-up when they already possessed several of Wade's master crafts in addition to the complete Sentinel armor set and others.


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Why do you all believe that this is the orlesian warden? I'm 99% sure that this is NOT the orlesian warden. It still would be "your" warden. And why does the canon matter? You would either have the origins-warden show up or the orlesian warden (if you did the ultimate sacrifice). They would have the same role in DA:I.

 

And furthermore: Why would Mike immediately confirm Hawke, but would actually deny the warden, if it would just be our "other" warden?

 

If the blond dude is not just a new NPC, my guess would be that he replaces Carver if he died in DA2

He specifically says the Hero of Ferelden/PC from Origins. Why be that specific if it included the Orlesian Warden in the list of Wardens it is Not?

 

THey could be withholding that information for any number of reasons. That tweet from Laidlaw reeks of fae honesty to me; no that is not the Hero of Ferelden in the trailer, but it doesn't preclude it from being the Warden we all love given certain circumstances.


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When not doing a save game from DA:O to DA2, there is more than one world-state to choose from. I cant remember those options right at this moment, but one was sacrifice and another wasnt sacrificial.  I am pretty sure there was 3 different optional world states to choose from. I will find out once I load DA2 again after this dwarf succeeds on destroying the Archdemon and then the Mother.

 

(dwarf is going to survive the battle of Archdemon, most did, only one died from that so far, I didnt bother with Awakening on the sacrificial, no point as it is not my warden going there, never will play Awakening with the Orlesian warden wont feel personal to me. In essence, only one out of many wardens died in my games.)



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He specifically says the Hero of Ferelden/PC from Origins. Why be that specific if it included the Orlesian Warden in the list of Wardens it is Not?

 

THey could be withholding that information for any number of reasons. That tweet from Laidlaw reeks of fae honesty to me; no that is not the Hero of Ferelden in the trailer, but it doesn't preclude it from being the Warden we all love given certain circumstances.

But if our origins-warden would be alive, he/she would be in the exact same spot as the orlesian warden is. So the scene with Hawke would look exactly the same. I just don't think Mike would actually be so nitpicking in his tweet ;)



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Why do you all believe that this is the orlesian warden? I'm 99% sure that this is NOT the orlesian warden. It still would be "your" warden. And why does the canon matter? You would either have the origins-warden show up or the orlesian warden (if you did the ultimate sacrifice). They would have the same role in DA:I.

 

And furthermore: Why would Mike immediately confirm Hawke, but would actually deny the warden, if it would just be our "other" warden?

 

If the blond dude is not just a new NPC, my guess would be that he replaces Carver if he died in DA2

To leave more to talk about in the future. We know little of Hawke's appearance as it is, beyond the fact that he/she's in the fade with the Inquisitor.



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here is pic of warden and hawke


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The Warden armor still looks awesome. I'm really hoping we see him/her in this installment, because there's only so much time that can pass before his/her Calling. 

I'm also hoping that if anything, they're not going to pull a: "He/She left for the Calling," because it's only been like 10 or so years and there are plenty of older Wardens as far as I was aware.


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Well from what I've read on the dragon age wiki, Wardens might get their calling sooner if they've lived through a Blight. As in, normally the life expectancy is about 30 years, but if there's a blight it might just ben 10-15 years. But that itself might tie in with DAI.

 

...oh god, I just made myself sad thinking that we might have a scene where the Warden says goodbye to the Inquisitor and goes off to their calling.


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Well from what I've read on the dragon age wiki, Wardens might get their calling sooner if they've lived through a Blight. As in, normally the life expectancy is about 30 years, but if there's a blight it might just ben 10-15 years. But that itself might tie in with DAI.

 

...oh god, I just made myself sad thinking that we might have a scene where the Warden says goodbye to the Inquisitor and goes off to their calling.

I wasn't aware living through a Blight made a difference, but if that's the case... and if the God child is there too, imagine the Warden saying goodbye to his son. Oh god, the feels. D:


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I got it from here

 

"The Calling begins with nightmares or voices from the Old Gods, the same "call" the darkspawn hear to search for the Old Gods. Although Alistair claims it takes a person about thirty years after their joining to hear it, the gap varies depending on their willpower and the level of their interaction with the darkspawn. As such, Grey Wardens during a Blight are likely to have shorter lifespans. Otherwise, it is commonly between ten to thirty years that the Wardens hear the Calling."

 

Now we're both sad. Let's sit over here and pass some kleenex back and forth while listening to some mournful Adele or something.


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I got it from here

 

"The Calling begins with nightmares or voices from the Old Gods, the same "call" the darkspawn hear to search for the Old Gods. Although Alistair claims it takes a person about thirty years after their joining to hear it, the gap varies depending on their willpower and the level of their interaction with the darkspawn. As such, Grey Wardens during a Blight are likely to have shorter lifespans. Otherwise, it is commonly between ten to thirty years that the Wardens hear the Calling."

 

Now we're both sad. Let's sit over here and pass some kleenex back and forth while listening to some mournful Adele or something.

Ha, indeed.

Though... wait, doesn't that imply that if a Warden has a high enough tolerance, i.e willpower, he can actually overcome the voices? Or if he overcomes them, will he still be overcome by the darkspawn infection? You'd figure withouth the blight, there'd be no voices to begin with.



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Well calling not for those who spared avernus. :whistle:


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Well calling not for those who spared avernus. :whistle:

 

That's a twist I can live with (because I spared Avernus too)


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few do speculate the fella warden next to hawke might be alistair

 

if this is confirmed later then hopefully we dont rumorize who is that man!

 

again thats my thought and some others.....i sure hope its not alistair.....



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there is no specific canon warden, there is biowares internal canon but since its a game about choice it would seem illogical for that to be the case, i dont think it would be the orlesian warden since that either way its still the warden commander of ferelden that went missing

It make sense for it to be the orlesian warden. The cannon bw fallows has the dao warden dead.