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[TheRevanchist]

I'm fairly certain it was either Mike Laidlaw or David Gaider who said the Warden will not be making an appearance in DAI. He will have a presence of some sort due to the world state and likely tied to a particular quest (likely to do with the wardens), but you shouldn't expect much more beyond that. This business of the Fade and closing the Breach does not concern the wardens. Their only priority is the Dark Spawn, and as the Warden Commander leads the wardens in Ferelden, his priorities will be quelling any potential future blights.

 

Hawke is much more relevant as he was at the start of the Templar-Mage war and he's also very good friends with Varric. It's more practical and believable for him to make an appearance to weigh in on the battle.

 

Naughty Dog, prior to the release of The Last of Us. Told all the fans and media, that you never play as Ellie in the game, ever. They did this deliberately to throw people off. They wanted to surprise everyone with that revelation upon reaching the Winter section.

 

Is Bioware following this PR strategy? probably not, but it IS something to consider. It's not like Bioware hasn't lied in their PR statements before -cough- ME3 -cough- However I do agree that Hawke's appearance makes a lot of sense, considering their story was never finished. DA2 was abandoned before completion.   

[TheRevanchist]

The sad thing is that bioware hope to indulge warden fans and simply throws something at them. It is because not having the warden there and making an appearance it would only be like chasing down a ghost or a wild goose chase when having a mission concerning the warden. and the result will be following: pointless, waste of time and no real concrete result with leads to only one conclussion:

He/she has disappeared

 

As I said, this is probably going to be how this supposed quest goes down. It makes me sad to think about. An overall irrelevant quest that tells you very little about the Wardens activities only to find out at the end they are still "missing". But then again, if I go into it expecting the worst, I can only be pleasantly surprised, and not disappointed by it.  

[LukaCrosszeria]

Avernus' treatment delays it, not stops it.

 

Not yet, but he's still doing his research.

[Elfyoth]

Okay becareful! Spoiler!!!] from DAO:A!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think I know who this warden is... remember, the Howe rouge? Forgot he's name, well at the epilouge its been said that he's sis's son is becoming the new warden commander, and I think he's age fit that Warden's age, what do you think?

[ziloe]

I'm fairly certain it was either Mike Laidlaw or David Gaider who said the Warden will not be making an appearance in DAI. He will have a presence of some sort due to the world state and likely tied to a particular quest (likely to do with the wardens), but you shouldn't expect much more beyond that. This business of the Fade and closing the Breach does not concern the wardens. Their only priority is the Dark Spawn, and as the Warden Commander leads the wardens in Ferelden, his priorities will be quelling any potential future blights.

 

Hawke is much more relevant as he was at the start of the Templar-Mage war and he's also very good friends with Varric. It's more practical and believable for him to make an appearance to weigh in on the battle.

Yes, we know that they have stated this, however, as it's been stated already, it's still a missed opportunity given how many of his/her romance options appear in this game. So the Darkspawn aren't his only concern. For my Warden, for instance. His concern is looking after Morrigan and his son.

As for Hawke, I don't think mine liked me very much. He didn't take sarcasm well.

[Vicarious117]

I think I know who this warden is... remember, the Howe rouge? Forgot he's name, well at the epilouge its been said that he's sis's son is becoming the new warden commander, and I think he's age fit that Warden's age, what do you think?

You're talking about Nathaniel Howe, and no his nephew doesn't even become a Warden. It's stated that after the Warden leaves Natahniel saves a Cousland and a portion of Amaranthine is given back to the Howes as an award of sorts where a castle is built for them, which Nathaniel gives to his nephew.

It never says anything about his nephew becoming Warden-Commander lol

[ziloe]

You're talking about Nathaniel Howe, and no his nephew doesn't even become a Warden. It's stated that after the Warden leaves Natahniel saves a Cousland and a portion of Amaranthine is given back to the Howes as an award of sorts where a castle is built for them, which Nathaniel gives to his nephew.

It never says anything about his nephew becoming Warden-Commander lol

Man, I don't even remember this. Shows how long it's been since I've played the original games. Ugh.

[ziloe]

Naughty Dog, prior to the release of The Last of Us. Told all the fans and media, that you never play as Ellie in the game, ever. They did this deliberately to throw people off. They wanted to surprise everyone with that revelation upon reaching the Winter section.

 

Is Bioware following this PR strategy? probably not, but it IS something to consider. It's not like Bioware hasn't lied in their PR statements before -cough- ME3 -cough- However I do agree that Hawke's appearance makes a lot of sense, considering their story was never finished. DA2 was abandoned before completion.   

It's definitely a way to add the lost content, no doubt. I wouldn't be surprised if the times we may potentially play Hawke, are for the sections that would have been in the expansion too. I know I wouldn't complain if that were the case, as it would sate my curiousity for what was thought lost.

[Garruk]

Don't they look similar? _))) Ye ye not 100% But Frostbite 3 and etc. It's  the second default Warden's face ))

[Vicarious117]

Don't they look similar? _))) Ye ye not 100% But Frostbite 3 and etc. It's  the second default Warden's face ))

Yes they look similar, but they have officially stated that Warden is not THE Warden, they made a big deal about it not being our Warden, so no matter how similar they are it's not him.

That being said (conspiracy theory time!) what if that was them being cheeky and using a play on words to mislead us? Because I don't know anyone who kept that face for their Warden, so if that's the default face then it's not OUR Warden per say yet it could the place holder for our Warden, or they may have used it as a filler for a world state whos Warden died killing the archdemon?

Yeah no I don't believe any of that, it's not the Warden, I just like speculating lol

[dsl08002]

even though i remain sceptical concerning that the mission and story concerning the warden will be a good, less than satisfactory one. There are a few Points that must be fullfilled.

1. The Story cannot end up like a wild goose chase.

2. Concrete result  and not ton of questions with no real answers.

3. LI like Morrigan and Leliana must be Active as NPC and not simply remain behind and wait for the inquisitor for answers (no one would do that)

4. The Wardens presence must be noted on a present level, That he/she actually exists and is alive and is not a myth. (notes or even letters to the inquisiter himself)

[TheRevanchist]

even though i remain sceptical concerning that the mission and story concerning the warden will be a good, less than satisfactory one. There are a few Points that must be fullfilled.

1. The Story cannot end up like a wild goose chase.

2. Concrete result  and not ton of questions with no real answers.

3. LI like Morrigan and Leliana must be Active as NPC and not simply remain behind and wait for the inquisitor for answers (no one would do that)

4. The Wardens presence must be noted on a present level, That he/she actually exists and is alive and is not a myth. (notes or even letters to the inquisiter himself)

 

1. indeed, but probably will, depending on the subject of the quest.

2. I can almost promise that will be the case, look at Witch Hunt.

3. This will likely not happen, as awesome as that would be. It could but I have doubts.

4. Hopefully we'll at least get that level of recognition.

[Garruk]

Yes they look similar, but they have officially stated that Warden is not THE Warden, they made a big deal about it not being our Warden, so no matter how similar they are it's not him.

That being said (conspiracy theory time!) what if that was them being cheeky and using a play on words to mislead us? Because I don't know anyone who kept that face for their Warden, so if that's the default face then it's not OUR Warden per say yet it could the place holder for our Warden, or they may have used it as a filler for a world state whos Warden died killing the archdemon?

Yeah no I don't believe any of that, it's not the Warden, I just like speculating lol

Ye ye. And also They oficially stated that thereare not any MMO in the Old Repubic Star Wars setting in development.

[TheRevanchist]

Ye ye. And also They oficially stated that thereare not any MMO in the Old Repubic Star Wars setting in development.

 

They also said there would be no A,B or C ending for ME3.

[ziloe]

even though i remain sceptical concerning that the mission and story concerning the warden will be a good, less than satisfactory one. There are a few Points that must be fullfilled.

1. The Story cannot end up like a wild goose chase.

2. Concrete result  and not ton of questions with no real answers.

3. LI like Morrigan and Leliana must be Active as NPC and not simply remain behind and wait for the inquisitor for answers (no one would do that)

4. The Wardens presence must be noted on a present level, That he/she actually exists and is alive and is not a myth. (notes or even letters to the inquisiter himself)

Let's not forget that Alistair will be making an appearance and if our human noble married him, it would be nice if the Queen Warden was at his side, especially if our encounter with him is in his own kingdom.

[Heimdall]

I doubt they'll make the Warden's involvement a wild goose chase.  In fact, it will probably be part of the critical path, probably an option, one of several ways to pursue an objective, so one must choose another path if the Warden is dead.  Or maybe an additional way to learn about intelligent darkspawn.  It will probably involve following clues the Warden left behind, or something, rather than direct involvement.  Leliana and Morrigan (If present) will make appropriate comments, but little else.

 

Hawke, on the other hand, I think might be playable for a flashback sequence, which brings up a relatively non-disruptive point for a Character Creator and they can use Hawke's actions in that period to determine his/her attitude when the Inquisitor meets face to face.  And yes, its a good opportunity to explore what the cancelled expansion was meant to.

[dsl08002]

Let's not forget that Alistair will be making an appearance and if our human noble married him, it would be nice if the Queen Warden was at his side, especially if our encounter with him is in his own kingdom.

Of course sorry i forgot that

[DarthAleas]

Let's not forget that Alistair will be making an appearance and if our human noble married him, it would be nice if the Queen Warden was at his side, especially if our encounter with him is in his own kingdom.

 

Actually, even though I too would like to see my Queen-Warden (or even my King-Warden with Anora), it was stated at the end of DA2 that both Hawke and the Warden disappeared prior to Cassandra's interrogation of Varric. So whatever they were doing before the events of Inquisition, our Wardens won't be in the same position and will probably be MIA. Consequently, if Alistair shows up, his Queen-Warden won't be with him.

[ziloe]

I doubt they'll make the Warden's involvement a wild goose chase.  In fact, it will probably be part of the critical path, probably an option, one of several ways to pursue an objective, so one must choose another path if the Warden is dead.  Or maybe an additional way to learn about intelligent darkspawn.  It will probably involve following clues the Warden left behind, or something, rather than direct involvement.  Leliana and Morrigan (If present) will make appropriate comments, but little else.

 

Hawke, on the other hand, I think might be playable for a flashback sequence, which brings up a relatively non-disruptive point for a Character Creator and they can use Hawke's actions in that period to determine his/her attitude when the Inquisitor meets face to face.  And yes, its a good opportunity to explore what the cancelled expansion was meant to.

GamerMD83 pointed out that for all we know, it could potentially turn out like the comics and the Warden could be trapped in a machine that's siphoning his/her blood, for the purpose of granting the Elder one more power.
 

And while I'm not sure how much canon the comics are, it would definitely make for an interesting way for us to encounter them, alive or dead. It would also explain why we saw them in the fade. However, even then I'm unsure, due to a photo that appeared, suggesting that Hawke was with Stroud somewhere.

[ziloe]

Of course sorry i forgot that

Hey, it happens. For a long time, I just considered Morrigan, given my own Warden's circumstance.

[dsl08002]

I doubt they'll make the Warden's involvement a wild goose chase.  In fact, it will probably be part of the critical path, probably an option, one of several ways to pursue an objective, so one must choose another path if the Warden is dead.  Or maybe an additional way to learn about intelligent darkspawn.  It will probably involve following clues the Warden left behind, or something, rather than direct involvement.  Leliana and Morrigan (If present) will make appropriate comments, but little else.
 
Hawke, on the other hand, I think might be playable for a flashback sequence, which brings up a relatively non-disruptive point for a Character Creator and they can use Hawke's actions in that period to determine his/her attitude when the Inquisitor meets face to face.  And yes, its a good opportunity to explore what the cancelled expansion was meant to.

That is the problem, Bioware is showing more appreciation towards Hawke than the warden. Sure it fits the story but they could have replaced Stroud with The warden, and to be honest it would be more fitting the warden than stroud.

i have said it Before and i say it again, Bioware can easily put the warden in game with appearance and voice. They simply dont want to. (we are not talking about moving a mountain here)

 

And it is not to avoid people getting angry, they have already passed that waypoint. when they undoubtedly strung out all warden fans for 3 months with mixed messages before saying that the warden wont appear. that was Bad behaviour no doubt. they should have said in the beginning the warden wont appear. Plain and simple.

 

But enough about that, doesnt matter anymore

[HK-90210]

I've resorted to calling the unknown blonde Warden 'Peeta', due to his generic looks and a lack of known personality traits.

 

 

Just think, if Hawke were wielding a bow and had longer hair. "Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to the 74th annual WARDEN GAMES!!!!!! May the odds be ever in your-*bonk*....I'm sorry. I'll be good, now.

[TheRevanchist]

That is the problem, Bioware is showing more appreciation towards Hawke than the warden. Sure it fits the story but they could have replaced Stroud with The warden, and to be honest it would be more fitting the warden than stroud.

i have said it Before and i say it again, Bioware can easily put the warden in game with appearance and voice. They simply dont want to. (we are not talking about moving a mountain here)

 

And it is not to avoid people getting angry, they have already passed that waypoint. when they undoubtedly strung out all warden fans for 3 months with mixed messages before saying that the warden wont appear. that was Bad behaviour no doubt. they should have said in the beginning the warden wont appear. Plain and simple.

 

But enough about that, doesnt matter anymore

 

Indeed, who gives a crap about Stroud? what makes him more relevant than The Warden? Nothing, not one thing. It is as you said, they simply don't want to do it. They want to string people along as long as they can get away with. They have no intention of EVER having The Warden re-appear. They just refuse to say that, because it would make some people very VERY upset by it.

[ziloe]

Indeed, who gives a crap about Stroud? what makes him more relevant than The Warden? Nothing, not one thing. It is as you said, they simply don't want to do it. They want to string people along as long as they can get away with. They have no intention of EVER having The Warden re-appear. They just refuse to say that, because it would make some people very VERY upset by it.

It's also the variables. There's so many to deal with that it means having more, means cutting elsewhere. Having to compensate for the Warden means potentially a missing companion, for instance. The writers often say it in terms of having a word limit, kind of thing. I'm sure David Gaider would be able to elaborate on that a lot better then I can.

That said, the only way I see this working out, unless they have done it already, is through an expansion DLC that features the Warden, or at the very least a story surrounding their whereabouts and appearance, etc.

[TheRevanchist]

It's also the variables. There's so many to deal with that it means having more, means cutting elsewhere. Having to compensate for the Warden means potentially a missing companion, for instance. The writers often say it in terms of having a word limit, kind of thing. I'm sure David Gaider would be able to elaborate on that a lot better then I can.

That said, the only way I see this working out, unless they have done it already, is through an expansion DLC that features the Warden, or at the very least a story surrounding their whereabouts and appearance, etc.

 

The Inquisitor has more variables than the Warden. I know full well it would take dedicated resources, but the fact remains, if they NEVER EVER intend to ever have the Warden re-appear, then they need to just say so, and stop stringing people along. It is wrong and unfair to people who wants to see them at least one more time.