The Inquisitor has more variables than the Warden. I know full well it would take dedicated resources, but the fact remains, if they NEVER EVER intend to ever have the Warden re-appear, then they need to just say so, and stop stringing people along. It is wrong and unfair to people who wants to see them at least one more time.
They've said that.
Seriously though i really want to see the reaction from fans if the directors just for fun would ask: would you want the warden to return as protaganist in the next game.
The Inquisitor has more variables than the Warden. I know full well it would take dedicated resources, but the fact remains, if they NEVER EVER intend to ever have the Warden re-appear, then they need to just say so, and stop stringing people along. It is wrong and unfair to people who wants to see them at least one more time.
the reaction from fans if the directors just for fun would ask: would you want the warden to return as protaganist in the next game.
^this
They really can't, nor need, to address everything everyone might hope for or want in the games. Why not just assume the story is closed to avoid the aggravation?
well... because bioware are somewhat guilty of encouraging the hope/expectation :/ "we need the warden and the champion." statements like this ( think it was cassandra?) strongly imply the return of both characters. voiced disappointment at reading it wont be so is reasonable.
The Inquisitor has more variables than the Warden. I know full well it would take dedicated resources, but the fact remains, if they NEVER EVER intend to ever have the Warden re-appear, then they need to just say so, and stop stringing people along. It is wrong and unfair to people who wants to see them at least one more time.
I'm not so sure it's stringing them along, as they probably have ideas, but just don't know how they would implement it, given the fandom's potential reaction. And especially when they're trying to keep this franchise alive, to prove themselves and be without the negativity the previous title carried.
well... because bioware are somewhat guilty of encouraging the hope/expectation :/ "we need the warden and the champion." statements like this ( think it was cassandra?) strongly imply the return of both characters. voiced disappointment at reading it wont be so is reasonable.
I don't recall that line?
But if it is in there, I don't think it changes the fact that Bioware doesn't need to explicitly state who will or won't be seen again. I doubt they'd back themselves into that kind of a corner.
Unfortunatly for bioware they did just that. Because da2 was rushed they never really thought it through thorougly.
When Casandra Said gone just like the warden along with leliana replying it is no coincidence bioware brought the warden back unintentionally.
In hindsight you can argue that was not the case. But it really was that message.
That the warden and hawke would team up. For the next game. A correct assumption for a poorly executed ending.
Besides replacing the warden with stroud is just a cheap unimaginative idea. Like replacing messi with a player from the junior soccer league
Indeed, most people were totally fine with the Warden going off into the sunset until DA2 threw that wrench in there.
I wouldn't necessarily say BioWare misled the community. DAI had actually been in development before DA2 finished (this is apparent because Varric is retelling events that already happened and the Inquisition has been formed as a result to restore order), and considering we haven't played DAI yet, we can't really say what kind of connection the Warden-Commander and Hawke may have. Events could still yet unfold, even if they transpire after DAI.
I honestly wouldn't be too surprised if DA4 teamed up the Warden-Commander, Hawke, and perhaps even the Inquisitor. Who knows? Whatever the case, the Warden is going to have to find a voice at some point, otherwise there will be some awkward, one-sided conversations.
I wouldn't necessarily say BioWare misled the community. DAI had actually been in development before DA2 finished (this is apparent because Varric is retelling events that already happened and the Inquisition has been formed as a result to restore order), and considering we haven't played DAI yet, we can't really say what kind of connection the Warden-Commander and Hawke may have. Events could still yet unfold, even if they transpire after DAI.
I honestly wouldn't be too surprised if DA4 teamed up the Warden-Commander, Hawke, and perhaps even the Inquisitor. Who knows? Whatever the case, the Warden is going to have to find a voice at some point, otherwise there will be some awkward, one-sided conversations.
Pretty sure the only way that Hawke and the Warden would meet, is if they were thrown in a room together. i.e both captured and thrown into the fade, as is the speculation by a few people, given that the two may indeed have dragon blood and that in turn could mean more power for the Elder One.
Indeed, most people were totally fine with the Warden going off into the sunset until DA2 threw that wrench in there.
Yeah, that's how I felt too. It felt fairly satisfying to have my ultimate playthrough before DA2 came out, be the one where the Warden goes through the Eluvian with Morrigan. And then to hear what happened, it definitely threw a wrench in all of that.
The issue with the Warden is that they were never fully voiced, whereas Hawke was.
This means that we can set Hawke's class, personality and appearance in the Keep and the Inquisitor will be able to interact with a fully voiced Champion of Kirkwall.
The Warden on the other hand would have to be mute throughout the encounter, which would be weird in a game where everyone is fully voiced or BioWare would have to pick a voice for the Warden which would cause fan uproar.
I'd guess that the Warden will be mentioned but won't appear in DA:I
On one hand yes they never fully voiced the warden, but you did pick a voice and personality when you created a warden out of 5 or 6 voices, remember? So they could technically go off of that if they wanted to spend that time and money as the warden does say a few things when you pick the voice as well as when you do things in origins
I wouldn't necessarily say BioWare misled the community. DAI had actually been in development before DA2 finished (this is apparent because Varric is retelling events that already happened and the Inquisition has been formed as a result to restore order), and considering we haven't played DAI yet, we can't really say what kind of connection the Warden-Commander and Hawke may have. Events could still yet unfold, even if they transpire after DAI.
I honestly wouldn't be too surprised if DA4 teamed up the Warden-Commander, Hawke, and perhaps even the Inquisitor. Who knows? Whatever the case, the Warden is going to have to find a voice at some point, otherwise there will be some awkward, one-sided conversations.
I'm pretty sure Bioware said somewhere, that Cassandra and Lelianna in DA2 were not exactly "The Inquisition" yet. They were the primordial form of it, before the Inquisitor themselves. I believe she took Varric from Kirkwall, and was bringing him to the Peace summit, to have him tell the Divine everything he told her. But then EXPLOSIONS and things happen, then more things happen.
I'm pretty sure Bioware said somewhere, that Cassandra and Lelianna in DA2 were not exactly "The Inquisition" yet. They were the primordial form of it, before the Inquisitor themselves. I believe she took Varric from Kirkwall, and was bringing him to the Peace summit, to have him tell the Divine everything he told her. But then EXPLOSIONS and things happen, then more things happen.
Yeah, that definitely sounds fairly familiar.
Man, wouldn't it be crazy if Vengeance turned out to be the Elderone? And everyone who stabbed Anders made a horrible, horrible decision? xD
I'm pretty sure Bioware said somewhere, that Cassandra and Lelianna in DA2 were not exactly "The Inquisition" yet. They were the primordial form of it, before the Inquisitor themselves. I believe she took Varric from Kirkwall, and was bringing him to the Peace summit, to have him tell the Divine everything he told her. But then EXPLOSIONS and things happen, then more things happen.
Leliana could have suggested to look for the warden because they needed a good leadership. that is logic.
But i really hope that Bioware address the ending of DA2 (even if it was poorly executed)of why leliana and Cassandrais looking for both warden and hawke. It would be interseting to see an explenation there
Yeah, I could see that. It would also be pleasant for those who romanced her, to see a softer side when she speaks of the Warden. Because everything we've seen so far, seems to be from a "hardened" Leliana.
Canonically, it's also why I kept Marjolaine alive, because Leliana comes looking for her in Orlais.
For me I was happy at the end of awakening it seemed like my warden was goimg to have a happily ever after with Leilana. They brought him up at d2 so for me I don't have closure. Plus now Leilana is in this game and she seems very cold to the world, it makes me want my warden to appear and comfort her.
I hope bioware gives me good closure on my warden. I would love to see him again but doesn't look possible. Even though it has been stated he/she won't appear, bioware has lied before and I'm okay with being surprised by seeing my warden again.
At the point though where I just want to play the damn game lol
I'm sure they'll have him at some point, maybe just not how we'd like.
It's kinda like Aang from the Last Airbender. He was a great kid, but as soon as the focus wasn't on him anymore, i.e Legend of Korra, we learned how he was a crappy father. In this sense, who knows what the Warden did when he/she was gone, and for all we know, we could end up fighting his corpse.
I'm sure they'll have him at some point, maybe just not how we'd like.
It's kinda like Aang from the Last Airbender. He was a great kid, but as soon as the focus wasn't on him anymore, i.e Legend of Korra, we learned how he was a crappy father. In this sense, who knows what the Warden did when he/she was gone, and for all we know, we could end up fighting his corpse.
But I just cant understand that what Bioware is essentially says regarding the wardens not making an appearance, is that they think we will be happy with just anything as long as we here anything about the wardens whereabouts with just a story.
Like throwing breadcrumbs to a begger.
I don't know what the mission will be like yet so I should not make hasty assumptions, but considering how little appreciation Bioware has shown during this last year to warden fans compared to Hawke fans, it would be a reasonable assumption.
But I just cant understand that what Bioware is essentially says regarding the wardens not making an appearance, is that they think we will be happy with just anything as long as we here anything about the wardens whereabouts with just a story.
Like throwing breadcrumbs to a begger.
I don't know what the mission will be like yet so I should not make hasty assumptions, but considering how little appreciation Bioware has shown during this last year to warden fans compared to Hawke fans, it would be a reasonable assumption.
As much as I don't want to believe that, I have a hard time not doing so, given their attitude in recent years. Perhaps they'll surprise us, perhaps not.
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