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[Ellanya]

I think we have to wait and see how the romances will be in the DA Inquisition. Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe in Bioware. These guys have done a lot of great romances in their games, and I hope very much we will not be disappointed.

[Fufunette]

It's still important to talk about what we like/don't like, wish etc... Maybe they're reading us, and note that. It could help them to know what we think about it, and it's important. Because we re the one they write it for. ^^

[Ellanya]

Totally agree! I'm just looking forward to new romances in DA-I and want to see how Bioware considers our criticism and our wishes

[OPM_Lunacy]

Why no Krogan Romances? And Hanar?? 

No, forget I mentioned that... 

[Fufunette]

I wish romance Wrex. He's so sexy and bad-ass.

[KaiserShep]

I would have assumed that krogan would typically be repulsed by humans, though Charr kind of puts a kink in that with his whole asari thing. With Wrex though, that he puts a great deal of stock in the continuation of his species, a romance with anything non-krogan would undermine that.

[Johnthejefi24]

Strange you don't outright die then from the high quantity of dextro amino acids in your cerebral spinal fluid and other bodily fluids. Heat, tissue/fluid chemistry, pH, and age readily converts levo to dextro both in the body and in foods you eat as well, although we are mostly levo. Mass Effect's science on dextro/levo is for an alien vibe to be given to the already too human aliens and perhaps for dramatic effect; however, this and some other things are outdated (if not outright invalid). The writing team might want to update the science of the MEU. It turns out you, me, and every other human being IRL ARE levo and dextro beings.  I eat yogurt on a regular basis and have not developed skin irritations and received plenty of sustenance from the nutrients and the added benefit of lactobacillus bacteria (and its dextro amino acid cell walls). The real science is still in its early stages on understanding chirality, so it is understandable that the MEU is not that caught up.
 
Tali's issue was more a ...yeah I can eat the dextro food on board the Normandy BUT it must be sterilized first. Her immune system is the major issue and that goes for any sexual/physical interaction within her own species and outside of it. She won't just get irritations, she could die.

That's really interesting, I learned something new today...Thanks. Have you thought about possibly contacting the Bioware/ME4 development team and telling them about this? I would if I was in your shoes.

[Fufunette]

Does it explain why Tali can barely eat human food in the end ?

[Mcfly616]

Species-gating is the right way to go in terms of romances.

[von uber]

I would have assumed that krogan would typically be repulsed by humans, though Charr kind of puts a kink in that with his whole asari thing.

That'll be the asari attractiveness hypnosis thing they have going on. Can't think of the word for it.

[Farangbaa]

Why no Krogan Romances? And Hanar?? 
No, forget I mentioned that... 

Quite possibly because sex with a Krogan would mean the death of the human female.

The Hanar can be romanced in the Japanese version of Mass Effect

[RiouHotaru]

I don't like romances with subordinates on the ship (official subordinates; in ME1/3 Alliance soldiers and ME2 Cerberus ones), if you are going to do it at least make it a renegade only option...outside the chain of command team mates are ok.

 

I know that Tali and Garrus fans won't agree, but in ME2 we overhear a conversation where a Quarian and Turian are discussing just how dangerous it is for them to date humans. If you set a precedent like that, then make those romances only open to Renegade Shepard, because Paragon Shepard after hearing that should friendzone the characters for their safety. Maybe even make it so Tali or Garrus turn Paragon Shep down. Try to keep to your own rules.

 

I agree that not all romances should be straight...but equivalently not all should be bisexual. Have a mix of interesting characters, some straight, some bi and some same sex.

 

The romance should be recognised midgame not as a quick shag before final mission. Like in DA:O with Alistair, that was pretty well done

Other crewmates should comment on the relationship.

I'll address these point by point:

 

• In ME1, it's worth pointing out that the romance scene itself only happens before Ilos, which is after Shepard has stolen the Normandy and is illegally chasing Saren.  I believe Ashley and Kaidan both lampshade the fraternization issue, but at that point it no longer matters.  Also, Cerberus wouldn't necessarily have the same rules as the Alliance.
• I've seen this argument used before.  The conversation is simply to highlight that romantic liaisons between dextro and non-dextro species isn't just "insert Tab A into Slot B" levels of easy.  There are precautions that must be taken.  Also why would it be Paragon to friendzone them?  A Paragon would be just as likely to want to continue as a Renegade were.  (Srsly, making romance options aligned to a morality is silly)
• Honestly?  I preferred DA2's take and making everyone bisexual.  It meant no-one felt left out of the options.  And the characterizations were fine regardless.  Seeing as how much same-sex material was cut out of any given ME game, and the amount of ship-teasing for LI combos you couldn't have (ManShep/Garrus and Femshep/Miranda are two easy ones), I wish they'd gone that route.  Wouldn't hurt anything.
• Also, in ME2 anyway, it was recognized.  Kasumi anyway.  Javik also recognizes there's a romance going on.  Also, just because people notice it doesn't mean they'd be compelled to point it out.

[PunMaster]

Well I searched in my university's science journal database for quarian levo tolerance and came back with zero results  . 

 

This made me laugh more than I should've 

 

 

 

I'll address these point by point:

• Honestly?  I preferred DA2's take and making everyone bisexual.  It meant no-one felt left out of the options.  And the characterizations were fine regardless.  Seeing as how much same-sex material was cut out of any given ME game, and the amount of ship-teasing for LI combos you couldn't have (ManShep/Garrus and Femshep/Miranda are two easy ones), I wish they'd gone that route.  Wouldn't hurt anything.

 

 

For me personally, I think making everyone bisexual breaks the realism for me, it seems to lead into a "one romance fits all" type scenario since you're suddenly catering for every character liking every combination. But everyone's different with their preferences.

[Seishoujyo]

It's still important to talk about what we like/don't like, wish etc... Maybe they're reading us, and note that. It could help them to know what we think about it, and it's important. Because we re the one they write it for. ^^

 

Yeah but no in fact... artistic integrity comes always first

 

No really I m not joking it's also important for Bioware to write what they want to write, not always what we are asking for, to surprise us etc (sometimes you have a good surprise sometimes a bad one, that's the deal).

 

 

I only want one thing in ME4, please give me a pure blond female with blue eyes to romance, I m starving for this since ME2 (Kahlee Sanders was great)   Stop with those dark hairs Bioware

[rapscallioness]

My goodness I should be asleep, but a good old romance thread. And heck it's abt the only thing we have to talk abt. lol!

 

What I would like to see for improvement of the romances in the next ME is more integration of the characters--in general--to the main story. In ME3, the squad was more a part of the story because, well, everyone was affected by the Reapers, but in this next story idk how it is going to be set up.

 

In general, I would like the squad to have an impact--good, or bad--on the main story. And maybe the nature of their impact can be influenced by how your PC is with them. All have a stake in---whatever the story will be. All have a role and their own agendas/reasons for helping you.

 

Then add to that the romance layer. So that your romance is a part of the story because something about the romances feel very compartmentalized. 

 

And someone already mentioned, but worth repeating that the build up of rapport between the PC and LI is very, very important. Start out as friends, or even enemies, and Discover something more.

 

I understand that BW prolly does not want to put too many resources to the romance feature, but perhaps not viewing it as a feature but rather as a whole story being told. I mean, you are traveling w/these characters; working with them; fighting with them...romantic attachments are going to happen. It is natural. Sometimes it is beautiful and sometimes it gets messy. I think--for the messy romances--that BW ultimately does not want the player to feel hindered in their main objective by a spurned lover, so to say. But I'd rather it did cause some complications, if you made the choice to pursue the romance, or the choice to cheat on them, or whatever, then yes.

 

As well as if they are not your LI, but you're just really despicable to them, or they can't stand nor understand how you behave in general..there should be reaction/consequence from the npc's.

 

No forced flirtation. No forced refusal to flirt..even if it doesn't go anywhere. No forced monogamy. And if that results in the npc dumping/leaving you, and you find that their absence gimps you (gameplay wise) in the rest of the game..oh well for you. I mean, they should give you a chance to talk it out, but it should not be so easy.

 

More build up of rapport. Consummation before the last death mission and, yes, romantic content even after consummation. It should not be once you have sex, no more talking. No more flirting.

 

That's the gist of what I'd like to see with romances.

[Fufunette]

 

No really I m not joking it's also important for Bioware to write what they want to write, not always what we are asking for, to surprise us etc (sometimes you have a good surprise sometimes a bad one, that's the deal).

 

I didn't say they will follow what we ask to please us. Just, it could help them to know what we think about what they wrote etc ....

 

 

PatchesintheSky, on 25 Aug 2014 - 02:01 AM, said:

Well I searched in my university's science journal database for quarian levo tolerance and came back with zero results  . 

 

This made me laugh more than I should've 

 

Same here.

[Brickyracer8655]

Funny how the romances are so important to a lot of people, myself included. Shepard falling in love makes the fight to save the galaxy much more personal, I love how this trilogy makes you care about the characters (both friends and LI's).

 

Anyway, I liked some of the romances, but there are some little things throught the trilogy that bothered me about them:

1) Most of the characters that you romanced in ME2 got short changed in ME3. The Citadel DLC helped some of them a little bit.

2) I felt that when you ran into former squad members (LI's in particular) there should have been more emotion. If you romanced Liara and played LOSB then your initial reunion felt underwhelming. At the end of LOSB she is crying and wants to know that Shepard is always coming back - In ME3 on Mars the first time you see each other she says, "Glad you're alive but what brings you here?" A valid question, but how about a hug or a kiss first?

Same with Miranda if she was your ME2 LI. You had an intimate relationship with the woman, narrowly escaped with your lives from a suicide mission, and no kissing or hugging when you first meet up after being separated for 6 months with no contact? I found it odd.

3) The ME universe sure is a forgiving and tolerant place when it comes to romance and relationships. No real consequences for cheating, if you do cheat on someone and want to get back together, he/she is pretty damn forgiving. Ok, Ashley at least reacts somewhat realistic in the hospital when you discuss the subject of having slept with another woman. Then there are the break-ups. Shepard decides to end a romance with someone and it's all well and good. Liara, Garrus, Ash/Kaidan, hell even Jack handle the break-up with barely a hint of disappointment - it's all chalked up to "Oh well".  Miranda is the only exception, she is truly crushed when Shepard ends their relationship (which is why I can never dump her if she was my LI).

4) I was less than thrilled with my FemShep's romance options in ME2. Nothing against the characters themselves (they're all awesome), but seriously? I get to choose from Garrus who is I think of more as a brother; Thane who is dying and who I'm convinced is still grieving over his dead wife; Jacob who is basically decent, but shows up at your cabin like some tool with a really bad pick up line. Jacob also ends up cheating on you. I don't think every romance option should be bisexual (too unrealistic and too easy), but my FemShep should have at least had a shot with Miranda. There could have been some great chemistry between those two strong women. Usually, my FemShep stayed faithful to Liara who i do like. Sometimes I'd go with Kaidan just for the heck of it, but he got on my nerves.

 

Ok, well I know Mass Effect is a game and it's not all about romance, but since this thread is - those are just my observations and opinions.

Looking forward to Mass Effect 4! Hope it's half as good as Bioware says it's going to be.

[Fufunette]

That's why I don't play FemShep a lot. The only decent male LI is Garrus. Kaidan isn't hot enough to survive of Virmire, Thane dies and Jacob find a wife.... Or I should romance Liara that I see as a girl or Traynor, who's actually a girl... Ok. Dat choice guys.

 

Where MaleShep has Tali (who's my goddess of Love o//), Miranda the hot biatch, Jack who's totally awesome, Ashley even she has nothing to say when she's sober, Liara that I still see as a girl, Kelly (harassment can be cute actually), and Samara/Morinth for flirting.

 

... FemShep has no choice ...

 

 

if you do cheat on someone and want to get back together, he/she is pretty damn forgiving.

I often (always ! always ! >.<) romance Tali, and sometime I do flirt with Liara in first episode, that the game consider like a real romance (even if I do not sleep with her.... <.<; ).

In LOSB, Liara is first a bit angry, and at the end, she totally agrees with Shepard new gf... o. o So ok, it's just a DLC, so let's go to episode 3. Where she only ask if she still have a chance. If Shep says that's better if they're only friend, she answers "ok thank you for telling me.".... Thank you.   I don't ask a real life scene. Just something realist. xD He cheated on her and she says "thank you". Really...... If I was her, I think I could do a better use of my biotic powers.... x)

[OPM_Lunacy]

Quite possibly because sex with a Krogan would mean the death of the human female.

The Hanar can be romanced in the Japanese version of Mass Effect

 

Why am I not surprised about Japan having that option? 

[Fufunette]

They got hentai Hanar/Asari games~

[Raizo]

The DA:I development team has hinted that they will be taking inspiration from Persona 4 when they do their romances and I hope that the Next ME team also follows suit. I feel that the Persona series sets a very strong bench march with how they deal with romance.

[Ellanya]

OK. I want to say a few words about romances in ME-3.

Bioware, where is a romance for my FemShep with James Vega?   He was soooo hot! I was very disappointed…

[Raizo]

OK. I want to say a few words about romances in ME-3.
Bioware, where is a romance for my FemShep with James Vega?   He was soooo hot! I was very disappointed…

I know, what's up with that. Players have been begging for decent human male squadmate ever since ME1 ( sorry Kaidan and Jacob ) and we finally get one in ME3 and guess what, he's non romance-able. Who approved this decision or was it yet another of ME3's many design over sights.

[Fufunette]

See that MaleShep can romance every girls of his crew. And FemShep has to chose between weird guys or being lesbian.... *Sigh* That let only one romance option: Garrus.

James is really nice ... Why can we romance Traynor, and not James ? Why....