If split installs are common on PC I'd be pleased to hear, as I don't know, thanks.
Can't imagine it would be much different from installing an expansion from a disk, before everything started going digital download.
Regular game is on the main disk(s) Expansion with all new nifty features, etc, on a separate one.
Core game runs fine without it.
since i like long shots im putting 50 bucks on a toolkit (im not kidding, me and some friends actually have a pool going)
You are forgetting that MP, despite being financially successful, left ME3 with a rather blackened eye thanks to the EMS thing.
They have already decided not to include DLC companions with DAI because of negative feedback brought about by Javik. Is it no treasonable to assume tehy would modify MP policy for the same reason? Either forgo it entirely this time or make it a truly separate install for the sake of rebuilding their relationship with their fans?
The issue- as you pointed out- is that the multiplayer affected the single player story. If they're going to stop doing anything it's that. The multiplayer mode itself was very successful for the company and obviously a lot of players enjoyed and are still enjoying it. Because of that, I would count on multiplayer making increasingly frequent appearances in Bioware games, even if it doesn't make it into DA:I.
That's my objective opinion on the matter.
I would suggest that you likely overestimate the number of people who felt that their 'relationship' with Bioware was damaged because of the inclusion of Multiplayer- barring the Galactic Readiness issue. Even then, my guess is that- of those people- most would be content if Bioware simply designed a multiplayer mode to not influence the single player campaign in any way, assuming the SP campaign is also considered good and fulfilling.
Finally, I'd guess that the number of people who would actually be satisfied by seeing MP divided off into a separate install would be dramatically outnumbered by the number of people who will play both SP and MP and would prefer that both modes are readily available upon the game's initial install.
Nevermind the technical nightmare and inconvenience it would probably be for devs and players alike to actually separate SP and MP on 5 different platforms.
since i like long shots im putting 50 bucks on a toolkit (im not kidding, me and some friends actually have a pool going)
I wouldn't bet on that at-least not at release.
From one of the devs twitter feeds sometime back.
https://twitter.com/...900852186480641
So sadly don't think toolkit will be the big accountment
I'm assuming that DAI will ship on one blu-ray disk for next gen.
360/P3 don't know, or PC, may need multiple disks.
But I can't remember any recent games that game the option to install different things or not?
Maybe that's more typical with PC's someone who knows will answer perhaps.
If MP is there it will utilise resources and assets from the SP game so what logical reason would there be for it to install separately?
What benefit for BioWare would there be to offer it as a separate install?
When it's one game (albeit with in this case and if proved, different modes).
If split installs are common on PC I'd be pleased to hear, as I don't know, thanks.
Playstation has done this many times. Uncharted 3, and StarHawk both had seperate multiplayer installs.
I don't know the con schedule....so I don't know if the following question is true or not.
But would they really release potentially big information like inclusion of MP into the game after the major con season?
Are there any big industry events between now and release?
I don't know the con schedule....so I don't know if the following question is true or not.
But would they really release potentially big information like inclusion of MP into the game after the major con season?
Are there any big industry events between now and release?
Pax Prime:
I just wanted to point out that while it is true the DAI team is very busy right now wrapping up the game, it does look like we do have some presence at PAX Prime. See http://blog.bioware....se-2014-season/
I am not sure exactly what is happening at PAX Prime, just wanted to point out that we are there in some fashion. I have no idea if there is going to be an announcement related to DAI there.
Joe
Skipped thE last few pages since MP has been covered in its own thread already.
Many pages ago I suggested a war table app may be the announcement. A post in the time management thread has thrown shade on that idea.
http://forum.bioware...ign/?p=17147299
Specifically the line about using system time and happening offline. To me that makes it highly unlikely there is an app tie-in.
You may now go back to off topic rants about MP.
I wouldn't say that MP discussion is off-topic, as it is just as likely as anything to be the big announcement later this month. However, I agree we should discuss any and all possibilities as MP is just one of those.
When is this ever offered, though? Even aside from the technical issues, what business would ever give you the option to not install a significant part of their product that also makes them money?
And why stop at MP? Why not ask for the option not to install classes that you think you'll never use, or romance content, or hack out evil dialogue from the game because you're sure you'll never pick them?
Games don't work like that. They're selling you a product, and you get the entire thing. Ignore it if you want, but it's still going to be there on the disc and in the menu for the millions of people who don't think the way you do.
Because the only thing I don't like is MP for the the game. 
Who said anything the romances or dialogue options that you brought up? This isn't even about that. 
Because I am gonna play ever single race and class in the game and I will hardly even be here when the game comes out. I bet you be still be posting about something you don't like about the game and hardly even play the game let alone MP. I bet there are millions more that don't play MP.
This is just the MP version of asking for a toggle.
The installer will put Dragon Age: Inquisition on your computer. If MP is part of Inquisition, then that will likely be included. If MP is a separate install, it will likely be for reasons other than specific gamers not being interested in MP.
It's fine to have preferences and desires, but don't mistake "I like" with "This is how it should be."
I finally agree with you. 
I hope that MP isn't even part of the SP experience.
An official launch date for the keep would be a big announcement. We know the overall concept of the keep, and can take a pretty good guess of how it works in creating the world state for a DAI play through, but there's got to be more to it than just prepping for DA:I.
Too much work has gone into it for that to be all it is.
my guess is that it will be details of the Premium DLC and perhaps a season pass (does EA do those?). i say this because i just don't think MP is a feature EA would enforce a press embargo over. apparently there are at least 2 press outlets (see orginal post) that have the information but no one is leaking. MP is a feature in many EA games and not something secret.
Playstation has done this many times. Uncharted 3, and StarHawk both had seperate multiplayer installs.
The problem with that example is that both of those are PS3 exclusive games. As such they have more of a chance for doing that.
Since BioWare is developing a game across five different platforms it's unlikely that you will separate the install of single/multiplayer.
Proof of concept does not make it applicable for every case. It always strikes me as one of those things kids say when their parents won't let them do something "Well Timmy's parents let him do X so i should be able to do it too..."
And don't forget the delay was announced July 22nd.
That was exactly 4 weeks ago.
From a marketing perspective we should still be treading water as 'the plan'
contains no more reveals because of the 6 week delay.
Only on September 2nd will the countdown have properly restarted beyond where we were on July 22nd pre-delay.
Will it also be smashing expectations?
Good god, I´m so tired of this overblown PR spin.
Make "big" BIG again, pretty please.
It is NOT the developers who stated it would be a big announcement but a journalist. It is not a PR spin if it was never even uttered by game developers.Will it also be smashing expectations?
Good god, I´m so tired of this overblown PR spin.
Make "big" BIG again, pretty please.
IT IS LATER IN AUGUST RIGHT NOW. (give me something...)
I am only half-kidding. I ,too, think it'll be multiplayer. Gaming sites rarely ever get excited about something other then that. Plus, there is the "leaked" achievement list which may or may not be fake but probably is not and it too speaks of MP.
And don't forget the delay was announced July 22nd.
That was exactly 4 weeks ago.
From a marketing perspective we should still be treading water as 'the plan'
contains no more reveals because of the 6 week delay.
Only on September 2nd will the countdown have properly restarted beyond where we were on July 22nd pre-delay.
I don't think we can say that, though.
The marketing plan could easily have changed. Why would they just leave a gigantic six-week gap in the middle?
since i like long shots im putting 50 bucks on a toolkit (im not kidding, me and some friends actually have a pool going)
That would be a great thing. I would like there to be mp but a toolkit would be just as good if it had decent functionality. I would say it is a very big long shot though.
since i like long shots im putting 50 bucks on a toolkit (im not kidding, me and some friends actually have a pool going)
I hope for your sake its a toolkit.
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