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A thorough look at the Mass Effect series that helped me come to terms with ME3's ending.


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Rodia Driftwood

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This guy gets it. Love he way he presents his arguments. Watching this "Thorough Look" video really made me want to buy all the ME3 dlc even more! I mean, I already wanted it, but now I wanted it, but now I want it double!

 

Anyway, please watch the video. He needs the recognition.



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You can't sugar-coat a dogfart.



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There's already a thread about that video



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You can't sugar-coat a dogfart.


You underestimate the power of airing out a room and using potpourri, and realizing that farts are entirely natural and recurring events.

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Rodia Driftwood

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You underestimate the power of airing out a room and using potpourri, and realizing that farts are entirely natural and recurring events.

 

Yep. I've come to realize it is not fair to condemn Bioware for one or two mistakes. Mass Effect 3's ending was leaked, then scrapped, then the game was rushed, and that's all that happened. They'll never lose my support. 

There's already a thread about that video

 

Damn, I took too long!



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You underestimate the power of airing out a room and using potpourri, and realizing that farts are entirely natural and recurring events.

You are 100% correct.  Lets hope they recover.



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Wait I thought the game's current ending was what was leaked and the dark energy ending was a concept from long before the development of ME3. Was there a different ending leaked? 
 
 
EDIT: Link to a forum about the leak 



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I already came to terms with the ME series:

 

ME1- A good introduction.

 

ME2- As a Standalone title=Good. A part of the Trilogy=Bad.  

 

ME3- As a Standalone title=Bad. A part of the Trilogy=Bad.  


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You underestimate the power of airing out a room and using potpourri, and realizing that farts are entirely natural and recurring events.

I dunno.  Dogs can be pretty aromatic... :P


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Wait I thought the game's current ending was what was leaked and the dark energy ending was a concept from long before the development of ME3. Was there a different ending leaked? 
 
 
EDIT: Link to a forum about the leak 

 yeah, the ending that leaked is the ending we got. They just switched some dialogue around. The Dark Energy plot was cut long ago, and never really implemented in the first place. Anybody who says differently is mistaken. The few times it was mentioned in ME2, was just Bioware planting seeds in case they went that route.


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I already came to terms with the ME series:
 
ME1- A good introduction.
 
ME2- As a Standalone title=Good. A part of the Trilogy=Bad.  
 
ME3- As a Standalone title=Bad. A part of the Trilogy=Bad.


As much as I loved ME2 I have to agree with this.
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Jorji Costava

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I dunno.  Dogs can be pretty aromatic... :P

 

This might be relevant to the present discussion:

 

 

Regarding the video in the OP, there's already a thread about this in the Story/Campaign section of the forums, and I said my piece about the video there. I'll just add that I wish the author had broken it up into multiple sections instead of having just a single two and a half-hour video.



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No. The ending is just poor writing.


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Also, the game left me wondering how awfull was the citadel part of the game. You do all these things to reinforce the citadell's defences. Save it from cerberus. Have it stuck full of refugees and friends, and for what? Have reapers come in and just take it? No figh over it, no nothing. Just next time you see it its closed, full of dead people and in the hands of the reapers. Wat?

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That was a 'long' video. I'm actually quite proud about watching the whole entire thing even though I now feel that I could have done something more constructive with those 2 1/2 hours.

It's obviously very well spoken and thought out and the guy does make a lot of great points. I love the way he compares ME1 and ME3 to films and ME3 to a whole entire series of a Television series and how he praises ME2's pacing ( to the best of my knowledge I'm the only one out there who praises ME2's pacing so it was nice to have someone voice the same opinion ). Sadly, as informed and interesting as the video was in hasn't really help me come to terms with ME3's ending. First impressions are very important and I will always remember ME3's ending for what they originally were, the extended cut marginally improves things but it's kind of like putting a band aid over a whole in someone's chest. I also still feel that ME3 in general is a poor way to end the trilogy.

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Also, the game left me wondering how awfull was the citadel part of the game. You do all these things to reinforce the citadell's defences. Save it from cerberus. Have it stuck full of refugees and friends, and for what? Have reapers come in and just take it? No figh over it, no nothing. Just next time you see it its closed, full of dead people and in the hands of the reapers. Wat?

 

Well, considering how much trouble we had protecting it in ME1 from just 1 reaper, it being overwhelmed by reapers plural makes sense



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Good video. It's a bit long, but we are given links to skip through. Liked and subbed. 



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I already came to terms with the ME series:

 

ME1- A good introduction.

 

ME2- As a Standalone title=Good. A part of the Trilogy=Bad.  

 

ME3- As a Standalone title=Bad. A part of the Trilogy=Bad.  

 

The critics disagree.


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The conclusions the dude makes in this video are basically on the mark.

 

The people who write off ME3 ignore all the good and sometimes incredible moments the player experiences in it. It's not a perfect game, and it has several face palm worthy moments, but overall, it was a pretty awesome game.

 

The truth is that Bioware got a little bit too ambitious with the engine and time they had to work with, and, business interests *cough*multilayer"cough* detracted from the single-player experience. We can mostly thank EA for that.   



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Originally I was furious about the ending but got over it.  I regulary buy games and have a stockpile by now I played for 1 hour or so.  The ME trilogy however I still play,

nothing comes even close.  However I am pc bound so I am not saying there are not other epic games out there.  Even with DA2 which I dislike, Bioware is a compagny that makes a lot of games I very much like to play and replay especially the ME trilogy.

 

For me gaming = escaping reality and having fun and Bioware delivers that in spades and no other compagny comes close in doing that except for the spellforce series.  Luckely different people have different tastes and that is good for diversity in gaming as it should be.  In that sense the constant negative regurgitation of the ending of ME3 baffles me.  Its like the hours of gaming before the 10 minutes of the ending didn't exist.

 

In the end all those video's made about the trilogy and ending only seem to feed the "social norm" we are supposed to adhere to and what ME3 ending is concerned all views for all tastes are all there, so take your pic.



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The conclusions the dude makes in this video are basically on the mark.

 

The people who write off ME3 ignore all the good and sometimes incredible moments the player experiences in it. It's not a perfect game, and it has several face palm worthy moments, but overall, it was a pretty awesome game.

  

Calling it imperfect is like calling a hurricane a breeze.

 

"Is it really worth throwing away all of the the good of the series all the hundreds and thousands of moments of laughter and suspense and beauty and horror that construct the 60-200 hours experience of playing Commander Shepard across the whole trilogy?".

 

Sadly, yes.  But what's really sad is I didn't throw it away.  Bioware did.  I didn't want to feel this level of disgust.  Bioware decided that no matter how much of a difference Shepard made, it didn't make any difference.  What does it matter how much laughter is in the universe when it must inevitably end in horror?  Why should I care about the beauty in the galaxy when I'm going to be forced to burn it all?

 

The ending is so bad (yes even with EC) it makes the trilogy feel an exercise in futility.  Why do I want to take that journey when it invariably ends up...there?

 

Is it any wonder many people prefer to end the game with Citadel instead of that ending?  It makes no more sense, but it feels more like a reward for completing the game. 

 

Will I buy any future Mass Effect games?  That depends on whether they can give me a reason to trust them again.  And we can start by pretending ME3 never existed.



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Life is an exercise in futility....no matter what you do, it ends in death.


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Yeah, as Honest trailers put it:

 

"Escape from a reality where you make thousands of tough decisions then die at the end anyways, to play through a franchise where you make thousands of tough decisions then die at the end anyways"  ;)



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But you can survive with good EMS and red end. :o



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I believe iakus' point is that he doesn't feel like Shepard survived. Whether or not Shepard actually survived is irrelevant.


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