That would make a cool game. Start out as someone tasked to eliminate a threat to unity, and throughout the game come upon situations where you have to decide whether unity is actually a good thing or not. Hmm...
It sounds like a completely different game, although, I wouldn't know what to call it but it seems like it can make a great game story.
I think Sovereign's rationale is not so much vague as applicable to a wide variety of conflicts or cosmological disasters. Imposing order on chaos is what powerful beings try and do. The Reapers or Leviathans ended up dominating the galaxy and wanted to preserve that along with their sense of order there was no need to bring the synthetic issue into this specifically.
As for free will versus determinism being the central theme of the series we see this emerge time and time again. Think about the Geth Quarian conflict, the Genophage, Cerberus, the Rachni, Batarian slavers, Project Overlord, the Prothean Empire, the Leviathans, the Thorian etc. It also comes up in numerous character arcs and as I stated is embedded within the gameplay itself. The Reapers are the most extreme example of this.
Whether the writers intended this is beside the point. What they actually wrote is more important than what they intended.
Another example of this is femshep. I think that she is probably the greatest female protagonist in popular fiction but I don't think the writers set out to achieve this. Her greatness is largely a happy accident combined with Jennifer Hale's stellar performance. Bioware created a feminist icon largely because they were indifferent to the character.
The end result matters more than the intention.
I wonder when David will return.
I wonder when David will return.
David, a label created by the BSN to give voice to their annoyance. In the end what we choose to call him is irrelevant, he simply is.
David, a label created by the BSN to give voice to their annoyance. In the end what we choose to call him is irrelevant, he simply is.
Eh, might be harder to come back, or he finally decided he had enough of this place.
I've never known anyone so reviled on an internet forum.
Auld Wolf was worse.
He was before my time. What did that guy do?
He was before my time. What did that guy do?
Eventually banned after one-too-many topics calling people who picked Destroy Luddites.
Don't you miss the Geth-Quarian debate with Wulfie?
Auld Wulf was the guy who transcended hatred and became a caricature.
He was too over-the-top and hilarious to hate. What with him calling all people who chose destroy as 'genocide fetishists' and 'luddite neanderthals'.
Auld Wolf was worse.
As I said, Auld Wulf was a whacko who was too disconnected from reality to truly despise.
David/Blob was a general slimeball who basically had nothing nice to say to anybody, grossly overestimated his own opinions, intelligence, and ideas, and was just a legitimate jerk who was condescending and confrontational to everyone. He alone was right, and anybody who disagreed was a childish, non-sense spewing, moron. I remember when he got banned when he was still David. His whole stick was 'meaningful heroism', and a moderator warned him about his statements being derisive, and he literally said 'I'm not going to back down from the truth' because he thought he had a right to insult people for being stupider than he.
Wulf had redeeming qualities to him (if unintentional). David didn't.
He was before my time. What did that guy do?
This is Auld Wulf, in all his great, bombastic glory:
http://social.biowar...m/3785406/blog/
Don't you miss the Geth-Quarian debate with Wulfie?
Or the Destroy/Synthesis debates, or the Joker/EDI talks and how people who chose Destroy must be sociopathic neanderthals that like to beat up cripples...
As I said, Wulfie was just way too over-the-top to hate.
Should I have Haagen-Daaz Vanilla Bean or this new Italian Pistachio Nut gelato for dessert?
Auld Wulf was the guy who transcended hatred and became a caricature.
He was too over-the-top and hilarious to hate. What with him calling all people who chose destroy as 'genocide fetishists'.
This is Auld Wulf, in all his glory:
Glancing over these.
Such a martyr, this one.
Glancing over these.
Such a martyr, this one.
We had drinking games for everytime he'd call someone a 'mouthbreather', 'genocide fetishist', 'luddite', or 'neanderthal'.
I miss Wulfie. He was an excellent provocateur.
I miss Wulfie. He was an excellent provocateur.
I understand that. I felt like responding to some of his posts just now.
And no, THIS is Wulfie at his best, when he rode the line between clear manipulation and rational thought: The Biggest Tyrant of Them All.
I think Sovereign's rationale is not so much vague as applicable to a wide variety of conflicts or cosmological disasters. Imposing order on chaos is what powerful beings try and do. The Reapers or Leviathans ended up dominating the galaxy and wanted to preserve that along with their sense of order there was no need to bring the synthetic issue into this specifically.
As for free will versus determinism being the central theme of the series we see this emerge time and time again. Think about the Geth Quarian conflict, the Genophage, Cerberus, the Rachni, Batarian slavers, Project Overlord, the Prothean Empire, the Leviathans, the Thorian etc. It also comes up in numerous character arcs and as I stated is embedded within the gameplay itself. The Reapers are the most extreme example of this.
Whether the writers intended this is beside the point. What they actually wrote is more important than what they intended.
Another example of this is femshep. I think that she is probably the greatest female protagonist in popular fiction but I don't think the writers set out to achieve this. Her greatness is largely a happy accident combined with Jennifer Hale's stellar performance. Bioware created a feminist icon largely because they were indifferent to the character.
The end result matters more than the intention.
And what about the end being what they intended?
And what about you being right and wrong at the same time? I mean that most of the themes in Mass Effect are linked together. You'd be right if you said that it's a central theme, but you're wrong when you say that it's the central theme.
I miss Wulfie. He was an excellent provocateur.
I miss him in a nostalgic way, the Dalish brigade isn't a proper substitute from the glories of David, Auld Wulf, and Seival
I miss him in a nostalgic way, the Dalish brigade isn't a proper substitute from the glories of David, Auld Wulf, and Seival
I really need to start exploring the DA wing, apparently.
I really need to start exploring the DA wing, apparently.
that depends on your feelings towards those who self-insert heir own issues into video games and get angry when you don't accommodate their interpretation
I really need to start exploring the DA wing, apparently.
It's really nothing like what went on with those 3 here. Nevertheless they made a private group to talk about the Dalish now, so don't get your hopes up.
that depends on your feelings towards those who self-insert heir own issues into video games and get angry when you don't accommodate their interpretation
Oh, I know that exists over there due to other conflicts, but I didn't realize that the Dalish had become a hot topic.
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