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Anybody else uncomfortable romancing Merrill?


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#101
BronzTrooper

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This despite the fact that the Eluvian never does a damned thing, and all the casualties surrounding it are caused by people overreacting to it?

Actually, it was tainted and when Tamlen touched it, it started to gush out the taint, infecting anyone and anything in the ruins.  Plus, if Merril had completed the mirror, she would've freed a pride demon on Kirkwall's alienage, knowing or not.

 

While I don't exactly like the concept of Rivalmancing, but in Merrill's case, it doesn't make it seem like the, "I hate you!" "I hate you!" "Let's do it." "Ok." Rivalmance, but rather a Rivalmance where Hawke is disagreeing with Merrill's decision to fix the eluvian because s/he wants to protect her.



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This despite the fact that the Eluvian never does a damned thing, and all the casualties surrounding it are caused by people overreacting to it?

 

Bro, do you even Dalish origin?

 

Anyway, you can thank Marethari for that.



#103
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Actually, it was tainted and when Tamlen touched it, it started to gush out the taint, infecting anyone and anything in the ruins.  Plus, if Merril had completed the mirror, she would've freed a pride demon on Kirkwall's alienage, knowing or not.

 

While I don't exactly like the concept of Rivalmancing, but in Merrill's case, it doesn't make it seem like the, "I hate you!" "I hate you!" "Let's do it." "Ok." Rivalmance, but rather a Rivalmance where Hawke is disagreeing with Merrill's decision to fix the eluvian because s/he wants to protect her.

The former is irrelevant because Anders would have mentioned it had it still been tainted, and the latter is based solely on an abomination's word.

 

 

Bro, do you even Dalish origin?

 

Anyway, you can thank Marethari for that.

I do thank Marethari for it, assuming you mean sarcastically.



#104
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The former is irrelevant because Anders would have mentioned it had it still been tainted, and the latter is based solely on an abomination's word.

 

Anders would have told us otherwise, but we can trust him, not that OTHER abomination?



#105
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Anders would have told us otherwise, but we can trust him, not that OTHER abomination?

We know that Justice isn't in control of Anders most of the time, primarily because it's quite obvious when he is. Marethari, on the other hand, maintains the same voice and appearance even when obviously under control.



#106
thruaglassdarkly

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I love the character for the most part. She's adorable (sometimes its a bit too much but still). 

 

So I went for a romance and I felt skeevy. I think its her petite elvish body combined with her innocence and cuteness. It doesn't feel like you're romancing a woman, if you follow. Especially brought home with the way she says "I love you" in bed. Very awkward.

 

Is it just me?

 

I did not feel particularly skeevy, no.  I've never romanced her with a male character, so I can't say if that is more or less uncomfortable.  As awkward adult myself,  awkwardness is not particularly discomfiting, nor a red flag of youth to me.  Some people just don't pick up on all the social cues for every situation.  And she is smart and talented in her own way (she is pretty much the only source of Dalish history and artifacts in the game).  That said, I greatly preferred the rival romance, where she stands up for herself and makes decisive choices.  It feels more equitable for her and more reasonable from the main character's perspective.

 

I guess I can see where you are coming from on her petite build, but I never felt like I was looking at a teenager. For that matter, I never really thought about it at all until reading some of the comments on this forum, and I highly doubt that was the developers intent.  More likely its an unintended consequence of elves having generally petite character models and more extreme features (eyes, ears, ect.)



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I never have liked Merrill since the first time I met her.  There is no way I would have allowed her to follow me back to the city.  Once back in the city I ignore her completely yet she is forced on me at the end of the game which I can not stand.  Hard to say for sure but there would be a good chance I would nark her out to the templars (to be fair I would do the same to Anders as well).  Varric and Beth are the only squadies I like in DA2.



#108
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We know that Justice isn't in control of Anders most of the time, primarily because it's quite obvious when he is. Marethari, on the other hand, maintains the same voice and appearance even when obviously under control.

Actually, by Act 3 Anders is experiencing mising time, time when Justice is in the pilot's seat.

 

in fact, during his entire Act 3 quest, it was Justice you were dealing with, not Anders.  At least, if you are rivaling him.



#109
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Actually, by Act 3 Anders is experiencing mising time, time when Justice is in the pilot's seat.

 

in fact, during his entire Act 3 quest, it was Justice you were dealing with, not Anders.  At least, if you are rivaling him.

That's one of the most grossly inconsistent implementations I've ever heard of in video gaming. This needs a dev answer, I think, unless we're to put it down to "Act 3 was badly rushed."



#110
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I didn't get the impression that Hawke was only dealing with Justice during that quest. Hawke can persuade rivaled Anders to give up the plan but Justice assumes direct control. He can't persuade Justice to do the same, but it implies that it was also Anders' idea at one point too.