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Thinking about video game characters as real people with real feelings is in delusional disorder territory and consequently causes hysteria (mild or severe) when someone expresses a desire to kill/execute them.
So what... I'm crazy because I express distaste over people finding some sort of sadistic/psychopathic pleasure in certain virtual activities that I'd consider wrong in nature?
So what... I'm crazy because I express distaste over people finding some sort of sadistic/psychopathic pleasure in certain virtual activities that I'd consider wrong in nature?
You're just part of Bioware's loyal fanbase and you really really like their characters. *thumbs up*
People complaining about "poor treatment" of virtual people in a video game just reminds me of the stupidity behind PETA's complaints of the video game industry, and the inhumane treatment of virtual animals...
People complaining about "poor treatment" of virtual people in a video game just reminds me of the stupidity behind PETA's complaints of the video game industry, and the inhumane treatment of virtual animals...
And people say video games promote violence. 
People complaining about "poor treatment" of virtual people in a video game just reminds me of the stupidity behind PETA's complaints of the video game industry, and the inhumane treatment of virtual animals...
What disturbs me is the desire by some people to perform particularly sadistic activities on a virtual individual. Not the fact that these people are getting inhumane treatment in the game; the fact that people want this.
What disturbs me is the desire by some people to perform particularly sadistic activities on a virtual individual. Not the fact that these people are getting inhumane treatment in the game; the fact that people want this.
I think it's all in good fun, but games are about expressing ourselves in ways we can't in real life. If this were Saints Row, having a head on our mantle wouldn't be out of place.
I think it's all in good fun, but games are about expressing ourselves in ways we can't in real life. If this were Saints Row, having a head on our mantle wouldn't be out of place.
The difference is that that game is based around silly humour and (inappropriate) comedy. This is supposed to be a serious game, with in-depth characters and very serious undertones. But you are right, videogames provide a way to express ourselves in ways we never would or could in real life. Still, for me the OP of this thread and some other comments cross a line.
How about people stop caring so much about what others like and avoid these topics if they don't like them? Everyone's got a psychology degree these days.
How about people stop caring so much about what others like and avoid these topics if they don't like them? Everyone's got a psychology degree these days.
Well if everyone always agreed with the OP then threads like these would be pretty boring, no?
And if you must know, I'm a Psychology student, though I don't see how that even matters. My opinion is my own, regardless of my educational background
But this is the "Feedback & Suggestions" subforum. The OP provided feedback and suggestions. If only people who agreed with him/her would respond to this thread, you might get quite the distorted image of the general opinion on it.
How about people stop caring so much about what others like and avoid these topics if they don't like them? Everyone's got a psychology degree these days.
Too be fair some people went in here thinking that the OP was talking about a possible achievement. At least I know I was^^;
Feel really silly now since I read it thinking the trophies where what the icons for the achievements would be in the OP. But thats on me more than anything 
Well if everyone always agreed with the OP then threads like these would be pretty boring, no?
And if you must know, I'm a Psychology student, though I don't see how that even matters. My opinion is my own, regardless of my educational background
But this is the "Feedback & Suggestions" subforum. The OP provided feedback and suggestions. If only people who agreed with him/her would respond to this thread, you might get quite the distorted image of the general opinion on it.
The majority of the negative responses aren't about the game suggestion but his state of mind and how odd is the bsn at times. Your only response that has to do with the game is about the serious tone which can be argued that a psychopathic leader is something that happens and is evident in multiple instances in the real world. If the game supports it, it will be interesting to explore even if it is what you call inappropriate. And that took someone to confront you about it otherwise you wouldn't even bother.
Also just to be clear my post wasn't targeted at you personally, if it was I'd have quoted you.
No worries Huldra, I thought same as you did when I came in here, then realized it was OP wanting to be a Lord Dracul.
oooo..... too bad I cant find a GIF, but thought of something befitting this thread...
Would you like to play a game?
oooo..... too bad I cant find a GIF, but thought of something befitting this thread...
Would you like to play a game?
You mean this?
The majority of the negative responses aren't about the game suggestion but his state of mind and how odd is the bsn at times. Your only response that has to do with the game is about the serious tone which can be argued that a psychopathic leader is something that happens and is evident in multiple instances in the real world. If the game supports it, it will be interesting to explore even if it is what you call inappropriate. And that took someone to confront you about it otherwise you wouldn't even bother.
Also just to be clear my post wasn't targeted at you personally, if it was I'd have quoted you.
A billionaire thinks that the best he can do to fight crime is dress up in a gimp suit and get into fist fights. I don't think Bruce Wayne is an example of someone who's, 'okay.'
Is that not the point of batman? He is just as mentally unstable as the people he locks up in Arkham.
Fair point, though you have to admit that what the OP is suggesting is not average for the BSN and its many 'preference-threads'. As has been pointed out, many people came in here expecting something else than the OP actually provided. The suggestion made here quickly conjures up thoughts of psychopathic and sadistic behaviour within the game.
Let me ask this question: why is this 'feature' necessary? Why would we be able to keep "Cole's eyes as a trophy", as I quote from the OP? What is the point? The only one I'm seeing is sadistic and psychopathic fullfilment/pleasure. You could argue that people want to roleplay their Inquisitors like that, but such an argument could then also be made for sexual abuse, rape, torture and gruesome ways of murder.
The line of what is acceptable has to be drawn somewhere, and I believe that the things suggested here cross that line. And with me many others, I believe, which comes through in the shocked and negative responses this thread has gotten.
I made a post on my thoughts 2 pages earlier and I pretty much disagree with the focused premise of the op even though I wouldn't object if it actually was in the game. But I like the idea and a more practical application of such a feature which I expanded on.
I agree that keeping the eyes for the sake of it points to psychopathic behavior (which is perfectly fine with me as far as video games go), but it can be more. For example keeping Cole's eyes may be a way to express remorse for killing him and force yourself to remember by keeping them on display. Also I can think of more practical applications like psychological war, witchcraft, which I think would be cool if the game actually included them.
The way I see it is that violence is violence. In the vast majority of rpg games you have the option to kill for the wrong reasons or just because you like killing virtual people. I don't need the game to shield me from it the same way I don't want it to go out of the way to introduce it. That's the only line I consider, the intention of the developers. Everything else is just politics.
I don't really think that it crosses some moral line that Bioware doesn't want to cross. Thinking back at DA2 with mother's death for example although we were spared the details and the ending had something of a bittersweet conclusion with more emphasis on bitter .
The world of Thedas is full of psychopaths and you can play your character as one to an extend. Comparing torture and sexual abuse at face value with keeping trophies from slain enemies is pretty minor. It's the extra baggage, the association with serial murderers and the like that make it more than it needs to be. I see your point though even if I think that ultimately they are different concepts.
PS. As for people that expected something different, I sympathize, but it's their decision to become involved afterwards, isn't it? I doubt that this is anywhere near the most offensive thread in the BSN ^^
Yep, my faults after finding out what it was about, and still here....I do have a little morbidity myself. I would not wish for such things in real life however. I don't care much for war, but it happens. I wont cloud myself from things that actually do take place, cause ignoring them can just be as bad as doing those things.
Options or choices is what Bioware is about, hate to say it, but in order to play a psychopathic character, somethings would be necessary to show it. I don't condone it however. To be honest, there are horror games out there for this type of entertainment for those that wish that. I stay away from horror games except Aliens that's coming out.
oooo..... too bad I cant find a GIF, but thought of something befitting this thread...
Would you like to play a game?
Does it involve...building a snowman? 
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