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[DisturbedJim83]

After having watched The Enemies of Thedas Trailer several times I'm starting to wonder if the Inquisitor might be a Abomination what has led me to conclude this is:

 

1)The Doppleganger appears to be a sloth demon mimicking the Inquisitors form,the glowing eyes effect is similar to Anders from DA2 maybe reflecting on The Inquisitor being an Abomination as a sloth demon mimicks someone exactly in every detail usually.

 

2) Add in the voice saying "You are a mistake,You should never have existed" could imply that creating a Abomination that would oppose them was never the intention, this may also explain how The Inquisitor managed to survive an explosion that killed everyone else.

 

3) The first instance in the trailer where Cole speaks he says "The Templars Have come to kill you" and the only 2 reasons I can think of as to why the Templars would hunt the Inquistor is if they were A) a apostate mage, or An Abomination.

 

4) Final one i can think of is when you see The Inquisitor crawling toward and reaching out to that glowing spirit,notice that he does not have the glowing hand power you see him with elsewhere,which leads me to believe this was prior to The Inquisitor emerging from the fade after the explosion.Its possible that the fade altering power is an extension of being a Abomination.

 

 

There are likely some holes in my theory somewhere, though right now my mind is racing on 3 cups of coffee.In the meantime I'd love to know other peoples take on this theory and also any alternate theories you might have come up with.

[ReelRipper]

I don't think so in my opinion but hey it could happen the Dragon  Age universe is a weird ass place.

Right now the only way I can see the Inquisitor being an Abomination is if one performs really poorly in character creation.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

I think that Glowy McGlow has either merged with the Inquisitor or has passed on their powers some how. I'm not that up to date on my DA lore but I had always thought that for one to be an abomination one would have to be a mage. If Glowy McGlow is some sort of spirit/demon and merges with a non-mage Inquisitor would they still be classed as an abomination as a mage would be, or would it be called something different? I'm thinking of Wilmod from DA:2 but I can't remember if he was actually labelled as an abomination, though I can remember Hawke being able to say that they thought only mages could become abominations.

Also, with Cole, I don't think we actually get to see who he is speaking to so for all we know he is speaking to some random mage we may run in to so I don't see that as evidence of the templars hunting the Inquisitor for being an abomination.

[katerinafm]

Everything is possible. I just hope we get a proper explanation about everything and are not left wondering.

[DisturbedJim83]

I think that Glowy McGlow has either merged with the Inquisitor or has passed on their powers some how. I'm not that up to date on my DA lore but I had always thought that for one to be an abomination one would have to be a mage. If Glowy McGlow is some sort of spirit/demon and merges with a non-mage Inquisitor would they still be classed as an abomination as a mage would be, or would it be called something different? I'm thinking of Wilmod from DA:2 but I can't remember if he was actually labelled as an abomination, though I can remember Hawke being able to say that they thought only mages could become abominations.

Also, with Cole, I don't think we actually get to see who he is speaking to so for all we know he is speaking to some random mage we may run in to so I don't see that as evidence of the templars hunting the Inquisitor for being an abomination.

Yeah,when the idea came to me I was thinking of Wilmod also,which showed non mages can be possessed by spirits/demons, it would make more sense for a mage granted and I'll likely be playing a Mage in my first playthrough and a female Qunari/Kossith Rogue for me second.I can't think of any other way for the Inquisitor to have gained their fade manipulating power tbh and with what appears to be a sloth demon doppleganging The Inquisitor with a glowing eyes effect almost idenctical to Anders/Justice in DA2 leads me to conclude its some kind of symbiosis with the fade spirit we are seen crawling towards since the Inquisitor doesn't have the glowing hand mark when crawling towards the spirit

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

Nice read OP. 

The second I read that your inquisitor was the lone survivor out of that fade-blast, was exactly this. 
Your character actually died, you didnt survive. You were possessed by a spirit or demon which made your survive.
Another thought that immidiately sprung to life was "What if that demon or spirit tries to wrestle control of your body?" or "What if you are a sloth demon replicate?". And here we are Hoping this theory is true. Would make the story hell of a lot more interesting imo!

[taucarlos]

Thought I should add that spirits and demons are capable of possessing non-mages, read Asunder it explains further and why it isn't a common occurrence though. That being said we don't really know if there is a distinction between a mage possessed by spirit vs a non-mage possessed by spirit vs either possessed by demon.

 

In the end they all carry a demon or a spirit from the fade within themselves, so we can for now assume they are all abominations. I like your theory and I think it will be very interesting to see it in game.

[Icy Magebane]

Nice read OP. 

The second I read that your inquisitor was the lone survivor out of that fade-blast, was exactly this. 
Your character actually died, you didnt survive. You were possessed by a spirit or demon which made your survive.
Another thought that immidiately sprung to life was "What if that demon or spirit tries to wrestle control of your body?" or "What if you are a sloth demon replicate?". And here we are Hoping this theory is true. Would make the story hell of a lot more interesting imo!

So it would be like Wynne in DA:O?  Yeah, maybe... hopefully it's a nice demon that latches onto the Inquisitor...

[Jazzpha]

Plot twist: "No Inquisitor, *you* are the demons!"

And then the inquisitor was a zombie.

[thats1evildude]

Plot twist: "No Inquisitor, *you* are the demons!"

And then the inquisitor was a zombie.

See, this is why his father told him not to go into space.

[TheJediSaint]

The Inquisitor is a player character.  That's much worse.

[KotorEffect3]

Assuming control

[myahele]

Technically, the inquisitor is an "abomination" in that s/he kinda made a deal (willingly or not) to a fade entity.

Clearly it's a spirit and not a demon.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I have no idea why but I literally lol'd when I read the title.

[AshenEndymion]

Clearly it's a spirit and not a demon.

 

Like the elves, I ascribe to the idea that they're all spirits, and they're all dangerous.  If the Inquisitor is an abomination, then s/he's just as dangerous as Anders, and at the same time, just as capable of not intentionally murdering half a kingdom at his/her own behest as Wynne(meaning, Wynne kills people because the Warden wants it).

 

If the Inquisitor is an abomination, I hope the game leaves it ambiguous.  And if they don't, there had better be some suicide options for those Inquisitors that happen to be true believers of the dangers of magic...  Sometimes, non-standard game overs are okay.

[Sifr]

I've been kind of thinking this since the first reveal about how we got our glowing hand and miraculously survived the Breach. I love twists like this, particularly when it throws into question everything that's happened prior to the reveal.

 

Probably my favourite reveals of all time was in KOTOR 2 where you found out that;

 

Spoiler

The destruction of Malachor V that severed your connection to the Force created two Wounds in the Force, Darth Nihilus and the Exile. Whereas he consumes life from others wherever he goes, you are able to draw the Force instead. Rather than regain the Force, you have been simply drawing it out of your Force-Sensitive companions. Your natural ability to draw people to you and create Force bonds has similarly been amplified, leaving you unsure whether or not you have been passively mind-controlling everyone around you.

 

Possibly one of the best abomination storylines (in one of the most screwed over games, development-wise) I've seen in a game, as you really question whether or not you've been a hero this entire time and whether or not any of your allies would have joined you otherwise?

[dutch_gamer]

I've been kind of thinking this since the first reveal about how we got our glowing hand and miraculously survived the Breach. I love twists like this, particularly when it throws into question everything that's happened prior to the reveal.

I can't stand twists like that because it limits roleplaying. You can come up with all the background you want but a developer has already decided for you none of that can be true. And they have already told this story in the last Mass Effect, I hope they won't repeat this story again right away.

And why does the PC need to be an abomination? Why can't he just have received the gift from the "spirit" or whatever as a deal or simply because said "spirit" wants to save both "worlds"?

After not being able to do anything about Anders betraying us in DA2, I think it is time for a story where we, as the player character, are in control again instead of having to deal with something bad happening, other than the Breach, beyond our control.

[animedreamer]

When Cole says the Templars have come to kill you, he could have been talking about a Mage Inquisitor, as class is said to also effect the story, as well as race and gender. I can very easily see a Mage Inquisitor, especially one formally of a circle if human, or an a apostate dalish mage, being said to have walked out of the fade with greenish power being seen as at first an abomination and thus the Templars, or Red Templars definite more so the later, as they are fanatics, would come to kill the inquisitor. 

 

However I don't think the templars are coming to kill you is simply cole addressing the inquisitor because of his or her fade rift powers.

Could also have been because that Inquisitor directly opposed the Templars which spurred Cole's line.

[DisturbedJim83]

I can't stand twists like that because it limits roleplaying. You can come up with all the background you want but a developer has already decided for you none of that can be true. And they have already told this story in the last Mass Effect, I hope they won't repeat this story again right away.

And why does the PC need to be an abomination? Why can't he just have received the gift from the "spirit" or whatever as a deal or simply because said "spirit" wants to save both "worlds"?

After not being able to do anything about Anders betraying us in DA2, I think it is time for a story where we, as the player character, are in control again instead of having to deal with something bad happening, other than the Breach, beyond our control.

Its a little off topic but the kind of "role playing" that you want with no limits is usually only found in pen and paper RPG's, RPG videogames like a book will always have limitations in somewhere because it is required in order to tell the story that Bioware has in mind,while you can play after the "end" of the main quest the ending will always be set with maybe a few variations.

 

There may be some players who don't want to be the sole survivor of the explosion but that is the way it is written as is Bioware's right as owners of the franchise,its not their Job to cater to every players headcannon, they are not even required to acknowledge it at all tbh, its just plain unrealistic to expect such a degree of RP in a videogame while wanting a cohesive narrative but as I said its way off topic for this thread.

 

Back OT, their may well be an alternative that explains how The Inquisitor not only survived after a fashion but was also granted their power to manipulate and close fade breaches,however being an Abomination makes more sense from a lore perspective,though I grant their may be other options I have missed as while my knowledge of the lore is extensive its not encyclopedic, which was one of the main reasons for starting this thread,as I'd find it interesting to see alternative theories based either on lore or just pure speculation.

 

Anyway please continue!