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[Dermain]

This deflation thing is disgusting. It is official; the NHL is the only pro sports league in America with any integrity...

 

 

I fail to see how a deflated ball somehow gives another team an advantage.

[Katiefrost]

Investigating deflated footballs
http://espn.go.com/b...-deflated-balls

I did think of a scenario where this might inadvertently happen. I live in Alaska, and one winter phenomenon I'm used to seeing is my car's tires appearing to deflate slightly when the weather gets really cold. This happens because the chilling air, with its' moisture, condenses and the tire's air pressure goes down. I always have to check the air pressure in my tires more often in winter.
So, what if those balls were filled in a warm area and then carelessly stored in a cold one and then taken out to play with in cold weather? I know there's a formula out there somewhere to calculate the change in air pressure inside the ball with the change in temperature, but I'm not mathy enough to pull it up. Is there a science person out there who can do that please?
Now, if this is part of what happened, I would expect an experienced coach to be aware of said potential problem and have the balls checked before use. Was someone suppose to do this and then, forgot? I'm sure they're investigating all of these possibilities carefully. I honestly don't think Coach Belichick would take a chance on doing something this bone-headed given his history with spygate and the fact that the Colts were obviously not going to be hard to beat. But then again, what do I know?
I believe in innocent until proven otherwise. And, I do not believe in trying someone in the press. After a through investigation is completed, the NFL owes the public an explanation and if there is wrong doing, it needs to be confronted and punished.

[Fishy]

You live in Alaska ? Holy Ice Cream. Do you live in Anchorage ?

[Katiefrost]

I fail to see how a deflated ball somehow gives another team an advantage.

An underinflated ball is easier to grab and hang onto.
http://espn.go.com/b...ampionship-game

[Katiefrost]

You live in Alaska ? Holy Ice Cream. Do you live in Anchorage ?

Yes, but that's all I'm going to say. LOL

[Katiefrost]

The Gronk may have been aggravating this situation.
http://www.bloomberg...lated-ball.html
The rules: http://www.bloomberg...flategate-.html

[Katiefrost]

In other news, who's going to be watching the Pro Bowl next week?

I think I might, since Odell Beckham has been picked:
http://www.nfl.com/v...wap_generic_nfl
There are some gifted players out there who haven't been able to truly shine because of their team's baggage. It will be interesting to see what they do in an elite setting. On the other hand, it's an opportunity to get injured in a game that will not benefit one's team...

[Katiefrost]

What about the Senior Bowl? The potential draft picks will be trying to play their best.
http://www.nfl.com/seniorbowl
4PM ET Saturday 1/24/15
http://bleacherrepor...-bowl-practices

[Katiefrost]

The referees may be involved in deflating balls, according to Aaron Rodgers.
http://bleacherrepor...ut-of-footballs

[Katiefrost]

The deflated ball mystery is solved. The dog did it.

[Katiefrost]

A good article, top 10 players Super Bowl 49:
http://now.nfl.com/p...9a-a2488f4452f9

[Dermain]

An underinflated ball is easier to grab and hang onto.
http://espn.go.com/b...ampionship-game

 

Uh...ok...sure...that makes sense... 

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

the only one in that game playing with deflated balls was Andrew Luck

[Seraphim24]

So are you guys going to try and pick with only 1 game left ehehe...heh...

 

So Patriots - Seahawks...

 

I guess I'll go with.. Patriots? Although with the caveat that if their coach gets banned or something weird than I'd go Seahawks.

[Seraphim24]

I did think of a scenario where this might inadvertently happen. I live in Alaska, and one winter phenomenon I'm used to seeing is my car's tires appearing to deflate slightly when the weather gets really cold. This happens because the chilling air, with its' moisture, condenses and the tire's air pressure goes down. I always have to check the air pressure in my tires more often in winter.
So, what if those balls were filled in a warm area and then carelessly stored in a cold one and then taken out to play with in cold weather? I know there's a formula out there somewhere to calculate the change in air pressure inside the ball with the change in temperature, but I'm not mathy enough to pull it up. Is there a science person out there who can do that please?
Now, if this is part of what happened, I would expect an experienced coach to be aware of said potential problem and have the balls checked before use. Was someone suppose to do this and then, forgot? I'm sure they're investigating all of these possibilities carefully. I honestly don't think Coach Belichick would take a chance on doing something this bone-headed given his history with spygate and the fact that the Colts were obviously not going to be hard for them to beat. But then again, what do I know?
I believe in innocent until proven otherwise. And, I do not believe in trying someone in the press. After a through investigation is completed, the NFL owes the public an explanation and if there is wrong doing, it needs to be confronted and punished.

 

Yeah no one seemed to cover the science angle at all.. it's like... cold shrinks, heat expands, chemistry 101... but at the same time that's all I know so

 

Anyway, I feel like it must be some kind of alternative explanation, like maybe the ball people were off the ball? They picked the wrong ball? Someone accidentally made deflation adjustments? Eh.

[Dermain]

Yeah no one seemed to cover the science angle at all.. it's like... cold shrinks, heat expands, chemistry 101... but at the same time that's all I know so

 

Anyway, I feel like it must be some kind of alternative explanation, like maybe the ball people were off the ball? They picked the wrong ball? Someone accidentally made deflation adjustments? Eh.

 

If they wanted science they would test all of the footballs from the other team just to be sure, but for some reason I don't think that's going to happen.

[themikefest]

New England's coach in a news conference about the deflated footballs

http://espn.go.com/b...d-football-news

[Fishy]

lol

 

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[Katiefrost]

Can anybody see the obscene gesture Marshawn Lynch is suppose to have made here? I must be blind, I can't spot it...
http://www.nfl.com/n...obscene-gesture

I get tired of seeing this guy get picked on over so much really petty stuff. I agree obscene gestures should be against the rules, these guys are looked on as role models and their conduct reflects on their team. But he's been fined for things like not talking enough to the press and having gold plate on the bottom of his track shoes. Things that really mean squat when you think about what he has done for the Seahawks this season. He's not into drugs and he doesn't beat up on women (I hope not, anyway.), they need to let up on the fines.

[Katiefrost]

[Lunch Box1912]

This whole thing is rediculous were talking about 2psi. Just to point out that any balls in question where removed from play prior to the second half in which Brady's numbers improved from the first half. If anything a deflated ball made the patriots worse not better.

I would also like to point out the reason both teams bring the game balls they will use during play is so they can prep them to their liking. The colts bring their own balls their balls are what they use the patriots balls are what they use. The kickers balls are the only balls the officials have full control over from start to finish. The reason for this is the kicking ball is the only ball that air pressure is considered to critically effect performance. The game balls the quarterbacks use yes the league says the ball is supposed to be between 12.5 and 13.5 psi but its up to the referees who handle the balls throughout the entire game to make the call if the ball doesnt feel right. A ball came into play that felt soft and was sent back, every other ball prior to that semed fine to the officials.

What pisses me off the most about this is there is several instances of documented ball doctoring going back to the 80's throughout the entire NFL, even Aron Rogers has admitted on live TV that he likes to over inflate his balls, yes folks psi over 13.5 possibly even 15.5psi that's 2psi over. They have removed air from several of the packers game balls throughout the season. Where are the pitch forks and fire legions calling for the packers heads. This whole thing is because Patriots win plain and simple. Every scorned pi*s ant has to crawl out from under the rock they've been hiding under and exclaim cheaters cheaters see thats why they're cheaters. Give it a rest already have some dignity for f*ck sake.

The patriots could have been using a footbal full of concrete, the Colts would have still lost that football game.

[Sully13]

Not a fan but I want weird al to do the half time show.

[Dermain]

Not a fan but I want weird al to do the half time show.

 

I doubt that will ever happen.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

and here's my prediction for the SuperBowl - Beast Mode dominates the first half with 160 yards and 2 touchdowns, including a 90 yard run, the Pats only response are 2 field goals by Gostkowski.

He gets 1 more to start the third, Seahawks however respond with a TD pass from Russell Wilson to cousin Luke, then with less than 3 minutes to go in the 4th Brady throws a short pass to Gronk who rumbles 40 yards to the end zone leaving Jeremy Lane's broken corpse in his wake, following a successful onside kick and a couple of short throws the Pats go to the wildcat and Edelman throws a 60 yard TD pass to Tom Brady for what will be remembered as the slowest 60 yards in football history (until 15 years later when Peyton Manning's son throws a pass to his father who is now a kicker for the Titans)

In a last ditch attempt to take the win with 2 seconds to go Wilson tosses a hail mary, Revis intercepts it, runs to the end zone, signs the ball and hands it to Richard Sherman

[SlottsMachine]

Well the media hates it when you lie to them and Brady could have nipped all this in the bud if he'd been honest about it. But both the NFL and the Seahawks/Patriots are laughing because its basically the equivalent of throwing a bone and watching the media chase it.