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[SomeoneStoleMyName]

DA2 spoilers so I didnt mention the name in the thread title.

Spoiler

Im wondering if Isabela will return in DA:I. Is this confirmed or not? Im also really puzzled why her plot armor is so thick unless she has a huge role in DA:I, something we havent seen a hint of yet. Now, I personally love Isabela and I usually roleplay immoral characters - but being unbiased, objective and looking at it logically - I cant wrap my head around why Bioware makes her impervious to death&justice.

In DA:2 countless people die due to her selfishness. Because she wants to save her own skin she is basicly willing to watch kirkwall burn and for the Qunari to start a war. I think its a safe estimate to say that she has the blood of about a thousand people on her hands. Including the family of said elves, humans and qunari - we are talking about thousands of thousands of people's lives ruined due to her being an immoral, selfish and egotistical lowlife whos only concern is money and self-preservation.

Keep in mind that I mostly roleplay immoral anti-qunari characters, that even *I* think this outcome from DA:2 was ridicolous should say something. She cant be killed or stopped during the game in any way, and when you finally give her to the qunari to face justice, she manages to escape.

Bottomline: Regardless of the damage she has done, her plot armor is as impenetrable and unbreakable as Varric's chest hairs.

To compare: Alistair can be executed after the lands meet. No problem there it seems!

So is there any hints of:

A) Is there any evidence that she will she return in DA:I?
B ) Will she have a huge role considering her ludicrous plot armor?

C) What - that you can think of - makes her too important to die? Future DA game focusing on the Qunari?
D) Could it be that the DA:2 devs simply made this choice to be safe incase they would need her later on?
 

[Dubya75]

Ludicrous plot armor? Huh? O_o

 

Perhaps you are reading wayyyyyy too much into an armor upgrade?

[themikefest]

If you don't recruit Isabela in DA2, a lot of people still die from the Qunari attacking the city.

[katerinafm]

Plot armor? She's just a pirate who can look after herself. It's really not surprising that she survives no matter what.

 

Unless Varric asks for her help, etc, I don't think we have or seen any reasons for her to return.

[Dubya75]

It's still her fault though.

 

Yes, which is why she disappeared. I would do the same thing.

[themikefest]

It's still her fault though.

The player doesn't know that if they didn't recruit her.

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

Plot armor? She's just a pirate who can look after herself. It's really not surprising that she survives no matter what.

 

Unless Varric asks for her help, etc, I don't think we have or seen any reasons for her to return.

 

So your argument is that she survived due to her skills and being a survivor, in other words her surviving wasnt because the devs didnt want her dead/alive but because it was in her nature to survive? This is actually a pretty good argument.

The problem with it (as I see it) is that she was on a boat at sea (unless I remember it wrong?), surrounded and guarded by Qunari and in chains. Even a survivor's skills has its limits and despite your reasoning I consider it quiet far-fetched. Could you elaborate abit on why you think she would manage to escape?

[themikefest]

What does that have to do with anything? The OP says that thousands of people's blood is on her hands and he's right. The fact that Hawke knows or doesn't know doesn't change anything. I like Isabela (she was my Hawke's love interest), but that doesn't change the fact that she's a selfish ****** that would and did leave a city to burn to save her own hide. And frankly I dislike that she's a Karma-Houdini.

 

 

Me personally. I like to behead Isabela in front of the hornhead and kick her head around the city. Or just stick it on the end of my staff.

[Roninbarista]

I don't think of Isabella completely escapable from justice. Hawke can turn her over to the Arishok if she returns to Kirkwall.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

Me personally. I like to behead Isabela in front of the hornhead and kick her head around the city. Or just stick it on the end of my staff.

I have nothing against Isabela, but when it comes to that incident with the Qunari sometimes I wish Arishok would execute her outright rather than capture her so she could be converted (escape).
 

 

I don't think of Isabella completely escapable from justice. Hawke can turn her over to the Arishok if she returns to Kirkwall.

She escaped.

[TheGusWho]

Uh, I think wanting to have a character executed/murdered brutally counts as "having something against" her.

[Samahl]

I don't think of Isabella completely escapable from justice. Hawke can turn her over to the Arishok if she returns to Kirkwall.

 

She escapes if you do so.

 

Honestly, I blame the Qunari for all those deaths, given that they didn't have to try to take over a city just because one of their relics was stolen. Their drive to invade is not Isabela's fault or responsibility.

[Anarya]

It'd be boring if the writers always had to write in a way for sociopathic players to kill every single one of the followers.

[davidselite737]

But what about those BOOBS heh? LOL..... Love me some Isabella 

[Roninbarista]

She escapes if you do so.
 
Honestly, I blame the Qunari for all those deaths, given that they didn't have to try to take over a city just because one of their relics was stolen. Their drive to invade is not Isabela's fault or responsibility.

I'm not surprised if Isabella escapes them.

The Arishok lost his mind in Kirkwall. I saw his actions as desperate and born of frustration for an inability to complete a task.

[KaiserShep]

In all honesty, if I owed a debt to a powerful slaver because I took it upon myself to release his slaves, I would probably steal the book too, because it's not something I'd care to die over. I doubt that many outsiders would've predicted that the qunari would be such fanatical a-holes that they'd slaughter a city over a stupid bible thing.

[nici2412]

I hope she returns. My favorite DA2 character by far. Just finished my 4th ( and last) DA2 playthrough and i tried to vary my companions to hear new conversations, but I just can't take her out of my group. Her dialogues with other groupmembers are just hilarious. Especially with Aveline, but also with Merril, Varric,Anders and the others.

Great written character.

[Beerfish]

It's still her fault though.

No, it is the fault of that idiotic buffoon the Arishok who couldn't find his bum with both hands in the dark.  His massive ego, incompetence and general stupidity is what lead to the Qunari events in Kirkwall.

[Burricho]

She escapes if you do so.

 

Honestly, I blame the Qunari for all those deaths, given that they didn't have to try to take over a city just because one of their relics was stolen. Their drive to invade is not Isabela's fault or responsibility.

They didn't, but  Isabela could have saved thousands of lives. Instead she was incredibly selfish.

[KaiserShep]

I don't really abide by religious fanatics, which is what the Arishok was. I don't care about their stupid culture or beliefs. That they would sack a city for sake of a lousy tome is on them. Besides, what would the raid have accomplished anyway? It wouldn't bring them any closer to the book, and instead gets lots of his people killed.