I hate Andraste because she crippled my beloved Tevinter, If Andraste appears in DA:I then I will not rest until I find a way to drag her soul from whatever corner of the fade she hides and devour ir or destroy it for the glory of Tevinter.
This is probably the most legit reason I've heard so far...
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This isn't the Morrigan thread, so I don't want to get too off-topic, but her behavior throughout the Redcliff questline was pretty dumb. We were there to get help from the townspeople and recruit soldiers for the army but she resisted the idea of helping them at every turn... and guess what? If you let the village burn as she suggests, you lose access to quest givers, shops, loot, and exp... and you gain... nothing.
She also thought it was a good idea for a group of wannabe adventurers fresh out of the Koccari Wilds to attack the Hero of River Dane directly... lol... chaotic stupid at its finest.
Every character in Dragon Age has their derpy moments.
She also saved the Warden's life, nursed him and Alistair back to health, devised a plan to (albeit temporarily) incapacitate Flemeth, stole her Grimoire, unlocked the secrets of the Eluvian, devised a way to imbue her son with the power of a god, and insinuated herself into Empress Celene's inner circle, effectively taking the reins of the most powerful nation in Thedas.
We killed Andraste: Remember the High Dragon in Haven on the way to her ashes? Oh wait, that wasn't her.
All I'm saying is, if you're born a mage you're born a mage. You shouldn't be sent to a circle run by templars looking to off you simply because of how you're born. If Dragon Age 2 taught us one thing, it's never back a mage in a corner. Hardly do they ever simply give up or say "Okay, here's some fire pal." Usually, it's - STAB MYSELF WITH A STAFF AND HERE COMES THE BLOOD MAGIC!
Remember Alistair in Redcliff, ' Yes i stopped to tell u im an idiot. Thank the maker u know already.' That was rich.I think it's safe to say that every companion (if not every character) had their "idiotic" moments where someone else just thought "WTF?!"
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Remember Alistair in Redcliff, ' Yes i stopped to tell u im an idiot. Thank the maker u know already.' That was rich.
As a neutral,well kinda. I can say she is defo not dumb. She justs acts to be evil incarnate, which is cute.Every character in Dragon Age has their derpy moments.
She also saved the Warden's life, nursed him and Alistair back to health, devised a plan to (albeit temporarily) incapacitate Flemeth, stole her Grimoire, unlocked the secrets of the Eluvian, devised a way to imbue her son with the power of a god, and insinuated herself into Empress Celene's inner circle, effectively taking the reins of the most powerful nation in Thedas.
People put far too much focus on the mage problem, it's not even a issue with a clear solution yet in theory at least Andraste and the Chantry's way of doing it is far more humane then some. In a good circle the mages would have a better education then most and live a life free from poverty. More then most farmers can hope for.
Beyond that the Chantry does a lot of good work for free and help people that no one else give a damn about. Lothering in Origins show the chantry trying to take care of the refugees and the towns people share tales on how the Chantry pay people to solve the issues around the towns and villages while asking for nothing in return. Now I won't cover up the bad things but most of it comes from those who meddle in politics and not the common followers of the faith. It's not like the rulers are any better and unlike the chantry they would not care at all about fixing the problems of the poor for free.
Remember them oxmen. The chantry is the only reason people dont have to take sar qamek.People put far too much focus on the mage problem, it's not even a issue with a clear solution yet in theory at least Andraste and the Chantry's way of doing it is far more humane then some. In a good circle the mages would have a better education then most and live a life free from poverty. More then most farmers can hope for.
Beyond that the Chantry does a lot of good work for free and help people that no one else give a damn about. Lothering in Origins show the chantry trying to take care of the refugees and the towns people share tales on how the Chantry pay people to solve the issues around the towns and villages while asking for nothing in return. Now I won't cover up the bad things but most of it comes from those who meddle in politics and not the common followers of the faith. It's not like the rulers are any better and unlike the chantry they would not care at all about fixing the problems of the poor for free.
I think allot of people are misunderstanding this. Some people view you as the "herald of Andraste" because of your power to close fade tears and possibly other reasons we don't know about yet. That doesn't mean you actually are, your inquisitor can even claim not to be and be like "wtf are you talking about?".
You don't have to support the Chantry and are actually in a sort of opposition to them. That doesn't mean Andrastian characters and people who are or were once associates with the Chantry wont support your cause. Remember that it was the original Inquisition that formed the Seekers, the Circle and the Templars and all of those groups are already separated from the Chantry.
if some stupid Orlais peasants and priests will call my elven/kossith battle blood mage that way in the beginning i can understand..even if i hate this i can understand why Orlais Chanry priest claim that my GW elven mage was something like "blessed by a Maker to defeate Archdeamon" as stupid Elthina claims for Hawke when he said who win the blight
but if people will call him as "herald of Andraste" despire his total anti Orlais Empire and Orlais Chantry, Templars/Seekers actions this would not make sense
That and there are people in the fandom who sympathize with/ secretly think of themselves as, Mages or Dalish Elves or any of the other special-snowflake "oppressed" cultures, and hate the Chantry for being big meanie-heads to "their" people....
...Or maybe they just have the ability to sympathize with characters, fictional or real, who get treated like crap for no good reason. When I watch a movie and I find myself rooting for the underdog, I don't think to myself "That's me alright!" I just think, "This person deserves better."
People put far too much focus on the mage problem, it's not even a issue with a clear solution yet in theory at least Andraste and the Chantry's way of doing it is far more humane then some.
Pff, *humane*. Compared only to qunari, but that's open to debate as I highly doubt that qunari would rape their subjects just because they have an autority or that the'll do other *pleasant* things humans are doing with the circle mages.
Life-long confinement where you can't have a family and everyone says you're cursed in the eyes of the God are not *humane*, death is a way more so.
Dalish are humane. Templars and Chantry are not.
if some stupid Orlais peasants and priests will call my elven battle blood mage that way in the beginning i can understand..even if i hate this i can understand why Orlais Chanry priest claim that my GW elven mage was bleased by a Maker to defeate Archdeamon as stupid Elthina claims for Hawke
but if people will call him as "herald of Andraste" despire his total anti Orlais Empire and Orlais Chantry, Templars/Seekers actions this would not make sense
That character can't exist. No blood magic available to Inquisitors.
I like Zealots, I want to play a Dalish Zealot when I do my elf playthrough. I hope I'll be allowed to say "ahah no I am the herald of the doom of human dominion over my much much superior religion!"
And my templar zealot playthrough will be deathtastic.
Oh well then, I guess I'm far too neutral/pacifist for this topic. 
Although I have played the Dalish origin a few times I never went too extreme, I'm not edgy enough. 
Pff, *humane*. Compared only to qunari, but that's open to debate as I highly doubt that qunari would rape their subjects just because they have an autority or that the'll do other *pleasant* things humans are doing with the circle mages.
Dalish are humane. Templars and Chantry are not.
Pff, *humane*. Compared only to qunari, but that's open to debate as I highly doubt that qunari would rape their subjects just because they have an autority or do other *pleasant* things.
Life-long confinement where you can't have a family and everyone says you're cursed in the eyes of the God are not *humane*, death is a way more so.
Dalish are humane. Templars and Chantry are not.
In some ways the Dalish are no better then the Tevinter. Among the Dalish the mages are the ruling class and the Keeper word is law unless they turn to blood magic. Now there are bad circles but the Chantry did try to create organisations and ways to prevent it, it's just hard to control isolated communities. At any rate as far as I know there is not a single society in Thedas where mages doesn't rule yet live side by side in peace with the rest.
Having that much power does change things and there needs to be some checks and balance to the system or the mages will simply take over.
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That character can't exist. No blood magic available to Inquisitors.
yes i know that we by the gameplay do not have blood magic(what devs does not give for us despire their words) in our skills tree but he would do and act like a blood mage-apostage
entropy and spirit schools is still there 
if some stupid Orlais peasants and priests will call my elven/kossith battle blood mage that way in the beginning i can understand..even if i hate this i can understand why Orlais Chanry priest claim that my GW elven mage was something like "blessed by a Maker to defeate Archdeamon" as stupid Elthina claims for Hawke when he said who win the blight
but if people will call him as "herald of Andraste" despire his total anti Orlais Empire and Orlais Chantry, Templars/Seekers actions this would not make sense
Andraste didn't form the Chantry she was a savior of the people. I am not sure if the Chantry will even agree with that view of your PC, I actually doubt they will because we know how they feel about people like Leliana who claimed the maker spoke to her and they said we are in opposition to the Chantry.
This seems more like something the common folk think about you because you have the power to save them from the demon invasion from the fade, how are they even meant to know your views on such subjects anyway?
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I don't understand the hate for a dead fictional character in a fantasy rpg. Personally, feelings are on neutral grounds. Never met Andraste in-game nor do I know more about the character other than what the chantry preaches. I think the hate is coming from those who have mixed conceptions about the Inquisition and religion together.
Theres a great history about mage imprisonment. Go and read the wiki.
There's even greater history about templars and the Cantry as a whole being swines not only to the mages, so maybe you should educate yourself first. But it won't help the issue, of course.
In some ways the Dalish are no better then the Tevinter.
Among the Dalish the mages are the ruling class and the Keeper word is law unless they turn to blood magic.
Horrible, horrible elves. How can they let a mage rule over them. Omg, we should do something, they're totally not right. Like, they haven't been dealing with such things for many-many years now. Savages, what's there to say.
The problem with Tevinter is not that it ruled by mages, but that it ruled by nobles who happens to be mages. There's a little difference between Tevinter and Orlais, they both have vital flaws but the root is always the same. And it's not freaking magic.
At any rate as far as I know there is not a single society in Thedas where mages doesn't rule yet live side by side in peace with the rest.
Nevarra and Rivain dissaproves.
You know there was once a thread quite some months ago. It criticised BW's decision to make all companions ******(at that time). Then he was barraged with hate posts saying he was homophobic. Moral of the story: It doesnt take much to fan the flames. People can get angry on sths very easily.It was rude and uncalled for. And if you're so bored that you're yawning, maybe you shouldn't bother with responding to my posts? Find something more exciting to do with your life, you know?
You know there was once a thread quite some months ago. It criticised BW's decision to make all companions ******(at that time). Then he was barraged with hate posts saying he was homophobic. Moral of the story: It doesnt take much to fan the flames. People can get angry on sths very easily.It was rude and uncalled for. And if you're so bored that you're yawning, maybe you shouldn't bother with responding to my posts? Find something more exciting to do with your life, you know?
Andraste didn't form the Chantry she was a savior of the people. I am not sure if the Chantry will even agree with that view of your PC, I actually doubt they will because we know how they feel about people like Leliana who claimed the maker spoke to her and they said we are in opposition to the Chantry.
This seems more like something the common folk think about you because you have the power to save them from the demon invasion from the fade, how are they even meant to know your views on such subjects anyway?
1)Andraste was a manipulator and conquer who claim herself as wife of the "only and true god", she was never a savior.
2)yes, Andraste does not form Orlais Chantry and Templars/Seekers and all what they do, this is all Orlais sh*t and Orlais will answer for their crimes what they do for 1000 years
3)they will see how i do not care about them and will be allied with "heretics", non-andrastians, non-shems and mages.
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Its good some humour has finally returned to bsn. Keep em coming
In the quote you are referring too, i think hes being serious.
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