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DA2 DLC Worth It?
#1
Guest_Magick_*
Posté 18 août 2014 - 11:19
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#2
Posté 18 août 2014 - 11:29
no... even if it was DA2 has just bad done DLC. Playing the regular story and finding the DLC is actually better will leave you with the feeling that you PAID for a demo of SNES version of Final Fight with no bosses.
#4
Posté 18 août 2014 - 11:50
no... even if it was DA2 has just bad done DLC. Playing the regular story and finding the DLC is actually better will leave you with the feeling that you PAID for a demo of SNES version of Final Fight with no bosses.
^ Umm, what in the bloody hell are you going on about? ![]()
Regards to the OP's question: Depends on the DLC:
- Exiled Prince gives Hawke a new companion (though he can annoy at times) and 3 new quests (including one that brings back Leliana)
- the Black Emporium introduces a new store hidden in Kirkwall that focuses on high-level items and offers other stuff like a potion that'll respec a character or gives Hawke a family mabari npc
- Legacy is honestly really great and is one of BioWare's better DLCs; it brings back the Grey Wardens and darkspawn into the story, has new takes and designs for certain darkspawn from DAO, it gives Hawke a chance to interact with their sibling, and introduces a villain who'll end up playing a role in DAI
- Mark of the Assassin is, well... the last half of it was pretty decent, but the first half feels like very much like a fanfic, especially with how the Tallis character is written and acted (she becomes somewhat better when her secret comes out, but the character can still turn people off)
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#5
Posté 19 août 2014 - 12:12
I found the dlc better than the game itself.
Exiled Prince gives you a companion and a cameo from a character that was in DAO
Legacy and Assassin are good.
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#6
Posté 19 août 2014 - 12:13
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#7
Posté 19 août 2014 - 12:17
I was recently asked for my view on this, so I'll repost the honest review of the DLC I gave before.
(Relatively spoiler-free, even if most people have probably been spoiled over the last three years or via forums).
Legacy
Storywise I think that Legacy is probably the most worthwhile to get as it deals heavily with Hawke's family history, gives us some information about First Blight and the Darkspawn we didn't know before, as well as setting up a major antagonist relating to the Grey Wardens that I suspect will appear again somewhere down the road.
If you're playing after Act 1, you also get to bring Bethany and Carver along (if they're alive) and they have some interesting dialogue with Hawke as they discover their father's past, as well as obvious anger at Hawke for not being able to prevent their mother's murder (if you start the DLC after that point). This was also the DLC that made me like Carver for once, as Warden!Carver finally grows up and even makes fun of what a complete tool he was before (although Templar!Carver is still a jerk). It's also worthwhile to bring along Anders, as he gets some plot-related shenanigans due to being a Warden.
Mark of the Assassin
Mark of the Assassin is more of a fun side adventure and not connected to anything majorly plot-related (that I can see), involving a heist at an Orlesian Chateau and political intrigue between the Orlesians and the Qunari.
It's also got Felicia Day in it as a major role, which some fans consider a deal breaker when it comes to buying this DLC, as some people don't like her as an actress, while her character can sometimes come off as a little Mary-Sueish. I'm not sure if you ever saw the web series Redemption featuring Tallis, but she's far more likeable in MotA than there, where she was on God-Mode all the time. If you're rolling a sarcastic Hawke, there's quite a bit of hilarious banter between the two as they bounce jokes off each other, which also makes her character more fun to watch.
There are also some sidequests for companions that will only trigger depending on who you bring (mostly in MotA), which I thought was a nice touch and adds some replayability. Simiarly, both DLC also have items that are for specific companions, usually relating to a minor sidequest. The banter also is a lot more self-referential at points, such as making fun of everywhere in Kirkwall starting to look the same after a while (no more copy-and-pasted dungeons in any of the DLC) and lampshading complaints about certain characters, mostly towards Carver and Anders.
Weapons Packs
As for the weapon packs, I found most of the items useful for the first two acts of the game (before you get the Champion armour during Act 3) and since some of them level up with you, they can be useful all game round. The staffs and armours are particularly good, while the Rogue pack has some nice Axes (which function as daggers) and bows, and the Warrior pack have some nice swords and shields for the warriors in the party, if you're not using them yourself. The packs also contain at least one or two items that are specific to each companion, belts, amults rings etc. I'd check out the DA wikia for more information on the weapon packs, see if they're your cup of tea or not?
The Exiled Prince
Sebastian Vael is a member of the royal family of Starkhaven (a neighbouring city to Kirkwall) who due to being the third son and a bit of a wild child, ended up being chucked into a monastery, before becoming a devout Andrastian. His entire family was recently murdered by his families enemies, leaving him as the sole heir to a throne that's been stolen by a dimwitted cousin, who's just a puppet king.
(Basically, he's a mixture of the Human Noble Warden from Origins and Nathaniel Howe from Awakening).
While you can do his introduction as early as Act 1, Sebastian only becomes a follower in Act 2 and 3, a shame because he always feels a little bit like the odd one out in the group, like the new guy suddenly coming into a close circle of friends and not getting half the private jokes.
While I like his backstory, that he's voiced by the talented Alec Newman, as well as the slight ship-tease with him and Bethany in Legacy and MotA (a mild spoiler, but it doesn't go anywhere sadly), the problem with Sebastian as a character (at least in my opinion) is that he's a little boring. He's sort of like Jacob Taylor in ME2, in that he's just sort of there. You don't hate him, but you're not going to pick him first for your party either, which is a shame because I really wanted to like this character.
His romance arc is also considered by many to be one of the weakest, since it's only available to a female Hawke and requires no flirting with anyone in Act 1 or 2 to start. Despite being the only companion you can actually marry (offscreen), it's a chaste relationship and many fans (and Fem!Hawke according to Legacy) were annoyed they couldn't get him in the sack.
There is a fun cameo from Leliana in one of his companion quests, including a plot thread relating to the Divine which likely would have been picked up in the cancelled Exalted Marches expansion. The end of his story arc similarly feels like it was waiting for the expansion to really get going, which is a shame as we'll have to wait to see if it's resolved in Inquisition, if ever?
While I'd hate to put you off anything to do with DA2 (since I'm one of the few people on these forums who's a staunch defender of that game, flawed as it may be at times), I'd say that you could easily skip this DLC and miss nothing too important in terms of plot. If Sebastian and his story arc comes back in force in DAI, you might want to buy this just for completeness sake. But if you'd prefer to save your cash, the relevant clips are up on Youtube and the Dragon Age Keep will probably allow you to put in the relevant flags?
Black Emporium
A must-have if you didn't get it with your base game, as you get a Mabari summonable (which sadly isn't levelled or improvable), the ability to character respect, the ability to change appearance, as well as a store filled with nifty gear and some extra tomes. Add to that, Xenon the Antiquarian is simply hilarious to listen too... just don't manhandle the Urchin! ![]()
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Hope that helped!
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#8
Posté 19 août 2014 - 12:32
I like them all very much. If you are Mage the armour and the staffs are excellent. For Mages the Aldenon's Vestments and The Apostate's Mask are much better then anything in the game. Also, the staff Malcolm's Honor is great at it does a lot of spirit damage and HUGE bonus for demons/undead.
The Exhiled Prince has a good quest with some great dialogue from Isabela and Merrill and provides a lot of XP as well.
And both MotA and Legacy are really fun and if you play them about half way through the third act there is again some great new dialogue and some REALLY awsome battles. IN MotA there are three really kick butt fights and Legacy has a two one near the beginnig and the one at the end.
They are all cheap as chips now, totally worth it.
#9
Posté 19 août 2014 - 01:02
Oh right, I forgot the rest of the DLC. The item packs have really good stuff to equip, and the Black Emporium has respect potions on top of other really expensive but great items.
#10
Posté 19 août 2014 - 01:11
Both of the extended storylines - Legacy and Mark of the Assassin - are some of the best missions in Dragon Age.
I loved the Black emporium. It came with my version, so I forgot it was DLC. It's mostly comic relif, though there are a few nice items there (including one to re-spec characters).
Exiled Prince is okay. It's not nearly as good or finished as Legacy and Mark though.
#11
Posté 19 août 2014 - 02:42
I think Legacy is incredibly worthwhile, but especially so if you have interest in the darkspawn and the Grey Warden plot or in Hawke's lineage (taking Carver or Bethany along on the adventure is absolutely recommended). The dungeon design is excellent, and though I felt the fights had a tendency to be a bit over-designed, combat was nicely handled overall (and they really improved the way that wave combat was used). All of the companions have new dialogue if you bring them along on the mission, and the story is really quite good (and it introduces a major new villain and undoubtedly sets up some future plot points). If you enjoyed any part of DA2 (whether it be the characters or the combat or whatever), you definitely want to include Legacy in your playthrough.
Mark of the Assassin is also quite interesting, though much less integral to some of the major story elements. It does include some lore applicable to the qunari, and has some cameos for past characters from Origins, but the plot is more self-contained. It's a fun caper-style adventure, with some vanity stealth mechanics, interesting locales (including a very nice forest area), some awesome new enemies (hopefully those little guys come back in Inquisition), and challenging new fights. All the companions again have new dialogue should you choose to bring them along, although for plot reasons you'll only be able to bring two instead of the usual three. I don't have trouble recommending it to somebody who can find enjoyment in DA2, though if you have to struggle to even play it, I'm not sure you'll find anything here that really improves your opinion of the game.
Both DLC include items that will likely outclass anything you find in the main game (accounting for level scaling), but they also have the best level design and best encounter design in the entire game (in general, these two DLC missions are the two best in the game, by wide margin).
The Exiled Prince is harder to recommend. Since it's mostly a new companion, you should probably only consider it if you really like playing DA2 (you're only going to get the most benefit from the DLC if you replay the campaign and take the new companion on missions). The character is all right (I liked him well enough); he adds a new perspective to the main story and does fill a combat role (he's a longbow archer, so you'll finally have somebody to give all those bows to), but his personal missions are pretty dreadful (though you do get some powerful items along the way). Certainly, if you enjoy the companion interaction in DA2 and are eager to play the game again, I don't see why you wouldn't enjoy this DLC (unless you absolutely hated the new character, but I don't think anybody can judge that beforehand for you).
The item packs are all right, but they sort of diminish the rest of the loot throughout the entire game (and most of them re-scale as you level up, meaning they'll outclass everything you can find from the start of the game all the way up to the very end). Also note that there aren't any high-resolution textures for the first item pack, so they all look like ass on PC if you're using the high-resolution texture pack. I liked them for the companion accessories they give (a combination of rings, belts, and amulets, one per companion in each pack), though those were really overpowered as well.
#12
Posté 19 août 2014 - 03:31
Legacy is certainly a must have if you enjoyed DA2 at all. It fixes the waves of foes and re-use of areas problem and doesn't take place in any "old" locations. There is quite a bit of story. The boss fight is super, SUPER annoying but you can cope.
Mark of the Assassin is ok. Offers a lot of varied areas and some non-killing "action" as you navigate a swanky party. You get a new NPC but only for this DLC but your mileage of how much you want to kill her will vary. I hated her.
Exiled Prince has an new NPC you can use in the game and some decent sidequests. Think Shale in DAO as a sorta analogy for how he works. He also adds the single worst line of dialog in DA2 when he has a full on Darth Vader "Noooooooooooooooooooooo" moment.
The items packs are good or bad depending on how much you lie fiddling with loot. I hate it so I enjoyed not having to swap out crap all the time. If you like that feeling of getting the shinest new toy then skip 'em.
#13
Guest_Magick_*
Posté 19 août 2014 - 04:25
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Will DLC be on sale?
#14
Posté 19 août 2014 - 06:33
They're certainly better than some of the garbage DLCs of DA:O like Golems of Amgarrak and Witch Hunt. MotA and Legacy have whole new adventures in new settings that last 3-4+ hours.
It's worth it if you:
1. Really like DA2 (this game seems to either be loved or hated by most)
2. Like to replay DA2
If the above are true then buy all the DLC content unless you are strapped for cash. If you have to leave one out I'd skip The Exiled Prince unless you really want an extra companion despite Sebastian probably being the least interesting. He's also not very necessary as an archer since you already have Varric. It also makes it easier to spare Anders without Sebastian in The Last Straw.
#15
Posté 19 août 2014 - 07:46
The only one I'd really recommend is the Exiled Prince, because I do like Sebastian. Legacy is ok, so if you really want more of DA2, buy that one. Just skip on Mark of the Assassin. You get railroaded into helping Qunari and are stuck with the worst written Bioware companion in the history of DA and ME, who is supposed to be funny, cool, deep, sensitive and badass but is actually none of those. Just a hypocrite with odd voice acting (I kept thinking her nose was stuffed, the way it sounds).
#16
Posté 19 août 2014 - 07:52
Legacy is the best DLC and gives so much insight on the story. Mark of the Assassin is also good but it ranks 2nd in comparison to Legacy. I would get item packs too, they are also good.
#17
Posté 19 août 2014 - 09:09
Sebastian is redundant, another archer (who is actually weaker than Varric) for 7$. And he is not significant like the last Prothean. if you really want him then get him...
Legacy is the best DLC and gives so much insight on the story. Mark of the Assassin is also good but it ranks 2nd in comparison to Legacy. I would get item packs too, they are also good.
The only good thing about the prince DLC is the gold and the loot. You get a reasonably good early act 2 staff and a nice act 3 shield. Even with that it's still not worth the money. Sebastian is a bit of a dull character and Varric even lampshades it in party banter with "You can't even pretend to be interesting, can you?" The dialogue is also very frustrating if you're playing an anti-circle mage.
Legacy is definitely the best DLC. In some ways it's better than the base game. The ending can be a little annoying in a Bioware contrived sort of way, but it's still worth buying.
Mark of the Assassin is Dragon Age 2's jolly jaunt in the country DLC. It's not really connected to the main storyline but does contain an optional fight that is one of the toughest in the game IMO. You get a new companion who for the duration of the dlc but she's a tad Mary Sue. I would describe it all as a refreshing break from Kirkwall and worth buying.
The black emporium is something I would almost consider essential.
The mage/rogue/warrior packs add a lot of new weapons, armour and jewellry. If like me you hate having to change your gear out every few yards when you pick of a pointless ring that is +4 attack points more than the one you're wearing then it's worth downloading. It also contains one of the best late game armor sets and staffs for mages.
#18
Posté 19 août 2014 - 07:16
The only one I'd really recommend is the Exiled Prince, because I do like Sebastian. Legacy is ok, so if you really want more of DA2, buy that one. Just skip on Mark of the Assassin. You get railroaded into helping Qunari and are stuck with the worst written Bioware companion in the history of DA and ME, who is supposed to be funny, cool, deep, sensitive and badass but is actually none of those. Just a hypocrite with odd voice acting (I kept thinking her nose was stuffed, the way it sounds).
Promoting a DLC by saying it's voiced by a certain person (seriously, who gives a ****) is usually not a good sign. That being said, I did enjoy the DLC but was upset by what you mentioned: being "railroaded into helping qunari." The whole thing was out of character for my pc just as some wardens helping recreate golems in Golems of Amgarrak is. Why would Hawke help some stranger steal a jewel from a Duke of Orlais that they're "not supposed to have"? Besides making a potentially powerful enemy by helping Tallis why would Hawke care? And then you're forced to let Tallis help the qunari. My Hawke hated the qunari and would rather help Orlais. Where was the option to kill Tallis instead of letting her walk off with that "weapon" she refused to give details about?
It's still a good DLC though but if it's hard to overlook these issues.
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#19
Posté 19 août 2014 - 07:41
Promoting a DLC by saying it's voiced by a certain person (seriously, who gives a ****) is usually not a good sign. That being said, I did enjoy the DLC but was upset by what you mentioned: being "railroaded into helping qunari." The whole thing was out of character for my pc just as some wardens helping recreate golems in Golems of Amgarrak is. Why would Hawke help some stranger steal a jewel from a Duke of Orlais that they're "not supposed to have"? Besides making a potentially powerful enemy by helping Tallis why would Hawke care? And then you're forced to let Tallis help the qunari. My Hawke hated the qunari and would rather help Orlais. Where was the option to kill Tallis instead of letting her walk off with that "weapon" she refused to give details about?
It's still a good DLC though but if it's hard to overlook these issues.
I liked the further insight to the Quanri lore, whether or not one felt compelled to the final conclusion. It also had a few of the better battles in the game, and I adore Ms Day as both a multi-skilled talent, and as another DA fan. If the DLC appears to be out of character for a given PC, one may pass on it for that Hawke, or adjust as best as is possible, as one must also do in RL in situations out of one's control.
#20
Posté 19 août 2014 - 07:53
Exiled Prince is eh. It brings back Leliana which is a plus and sheds some light on what she's been doing after the Blight.
Although his romance is awful. They didn't really make it very good. Hell, he doesn't even really acknowledge it until you get to Act 3. And when you get to the end of the game with Anders blowing up the Chantry he'll rage quit the party if you let Anders live. And seeing as I romance Anders 90% of the time (other 10% being Fenris) I let him leave. He should of been a free DLC imo because he isn't very worth the 7 dollars they want you to pay for being such a boring character.
Legacy is dern sure the best DLC I've played in the DA series. If you bring Anders you get some pretty awesome scenes, even better if romanced. 10/10 would buy again.
MoTA is by the Maker terrible. Felica Day is eh and the story is eh if your anti-qunari. Although you get some interesting items for the companions you bring.
Black Emporium is good for being free. Plus you get some extra scenes with your companions and the mabari which you can summon anytime but he'll leave when you go into a new area.
I have most of the item packs (besides the 2 warrior ones) and I really like those. They look good and are cheap, and it holds you over until you get the Champion armor.
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#21
Posté 19 août 2014 - 09:29
Black Emporium is good for being free. Plus you get some extra scenes with your companions and the mabari which you can summon anytime but he'll leave when you go into a new area.
I consider BE essential just for the mirror of transformation....but then again i usually botch up at least one aspect of my character creation.
#22
Posté 20 août 2014 - 01:22
Will DLC be on sale?
I doubt it. Even when the game goes on the sale, the DLC stays the same. No ultimate edition for DAII either.
Someone should let EA know there's a lot of people who won't pay 10 bucks for DLC when the whole game cost less than that.
#23
Posté 20 août 2014 - 03:21
I liked the further insight to the Quanri lore, whether or not one felt compelled to the final conclusion. It also had a few of the better battles in the game, and I adore Ms Day as both a multi-skilled talent, and as another DA fan. If the DLC appears to be out of character for a given PC, one may pass on it for that Hawke, or adjust as best as is possible, as one must also do in RL in situations out of one's control.
I never even heard of Ms. Day before this DLC, but I wouldn't care whose voicing it. Just as I care more about the quality of the film rather than who is cast, I just want a good quality DLC.
What qunari lore is new? Through the codex maybe? Do people ever read that? lol I skip most of them.
I can't bring myself to skip this DLC despite it being out of character ...for all my characters mind you. I'd be skipping 4+ hours of gameplay. It's not like skipping Golems of Amgarrak which was boring garbage. And I love seeing Isabela/Aveline making jabs at each other.
#24
Posté 20 août 2014 - 09:27
I don't think much of Day as an actress. She's good enough for certain things and I think at this point she's aware of when to put herself in front of a camera and when not to (and behind the camera she brings a lot to the table).
But though her performance here is lackluster and the character is very self insert fanfic-ey, Mark of the Assassin still ranks for me equally to Legacy because it get us away from the relatively dreary atmosphere of Kirkwall and wherever Legacy takes place.
That said, Legacy is more important overall. The stuff here is more relevant to Hawke and will almost certainly play a role in DAI.
If you're going to get anything else, Black Emporium and Exiled Prince are about tied for me. I never use Sebastian myself but the thing with Lelianna will probably be relevant to DAI.
And the item packs are nice. Neatly spaced out so that you can regularly switch items at various levels and the item designs are better looking and more distinctive than what is in the core game so your Hawke can have at least as much flair as your companions do.
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#25
Posté 20 août 2014 - 09:31
I'd say Legacy is a must, Exiled Prince provides some other view points, and the sweet Starkhaven accent.
Mark of the Assassin provide a fun romp, while the item packs basically mean you never have to buy any equipables ever again.





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