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[TheGusWho]

Uh... Actually... That is why they exist. Butts, I mean. The butt is in fact the truest sexual characteristics for our species, just like why baboons have such obvious and large butts. Butts sole purpose is attracting mates. Obviously the hole inside the butt isn't meant for that, but the cheeks that surround it certainly are. In fact, butts are why human female breasts are enlarged and inflated 24/7 instead of just when they're pregnant or nursing like literally every other mammal on the entire planet. Butts became a little less "in your face" once we started walking upright, so female breasts became what they are today to somewhat mimic butts so that they could be the "in your face" sexual characteristic instead. So yes, boobs are meant to be chest butts on top of being for feeding infants.

 

So yeah, butts are in fact entirely for eye candy.

 

...you were saying, Cyonan?

 

I'm sure that andy##### is making a joke, but the fact is that Poe's Law is still pretty much in effect. When people make jokes about how butts are just there for titillation, it's hard to see the divide between "I'm just being funny, I would never actually say this," and "this is honestly what I think."

[Maria Caliban]

Sources?

These butts were made for walking.

Also, Big butts, loose shoulders, and other runner adaptations.

[andy6915]

...you were saying, Cyonan?

 

I'm sure that andy##### is making a joke, but the fact is that Poe's Law is still pretty much in effect. When people make jokes about how butts are just there for titillation, it's hard to see the divide between "I'm just being funny, I would never actually say this," and "this is honestly what I think."

 

Dead serious. Butts are almost entirely for sexual attraction in apes, it's why the vast majority of all ape species have inflated and obvious shapes. Not just apes either, donkeys for example have what are called "butt pads", and those are entirely for making the butt look as appealing as possible to the opposite sex for mating purposes. And human boobs have the look they do because being bipedal made our butts less noticeable.

 

I didn't think so many people would have a problem with my post. It's just simple biology and evolutionary theory.

[JeffZero]

This topic is going places that, as an anthropology major, I can't help but approve of.

[TheGusWho]

Dead serious. Butts are almost entirely for sexual attraction in apes, it's why the vast majority of all ape species have inflated and obvious shapes. Not just apes either, donkeys for example have what are called "butt pads", and those are entirely for making the butt look as appealing as possible to the opposite sex for mating purposes. And human boobs have the look they do because being bipedal made our butts less noticeable.

 

I didn't think so many people would have a problem with my post. It's just simple biology and evolutionary theory.

 

The fact that you honestly think this is horrifying on so many levels.

[andy6915]

The fact that you honestly think this is horrifying on so many levels.

 

Biological fact is horrifying? Okay. I suppose looking at how cancer and certain parasites function is pretty horrifying, so biology can indeed be scary. But butts being mainly for attracting mates is not one of those things about biology that I would consider horrifying.

[Maria Caliban]

http://news.softpedi...sts-46783.shtml

And many more if you just Google search my claim.

This unsourced softpedia article about breasts shows that "butts sole purpose is attractive mates."

I'm sure that andy##### is making a joke...

Wouldn't that be nice.

[TheGusWho]

This unsourced softpedia article about breasts shows that "butts sole purpose is attractive mates."


Wouldn't that be nice.

 

IT WOULD BE SO NICE. I'm just... speechless.

[Cyonan]

Dead serious. Butts are almost entirely for sexual attraction in apes, it's why the vast majority of all ape species have inflated and obvious shapes. Not just apes either, donkeys for example have what are called "butt pads", and those are entirely for making the butt look as appealing as possible to the opposite sex for mating purposes. And human boobs have the look they do because being bipedal made our butts less noticeable.

 

I didn't think so many people would have a problem with my post. It's just simple biology and evolutionary theory.

 

Actually, the butt also serves as some cushion for sitting on hard objects(Insert Archer phrasing meme here).

 

You're also talking entirely about the butt cheeks as opposed to the butt as a whole which has other purposes.

 

 

...you were saying, Cyonan?

 

I'm sure that andy##### is making a joke, but the fact is that Poe's Law is still pretty much in effect. When people make jokes about how butts are just there for titillation, it's hard to see the divide between "I'm just being funny, I would never actually say this," and "this is honestly what I think."

 

In that case I shall change it to "almost nobody is being serious". That and the specific thing that Andy quoted was referring to Women as a whole, not just their butts.

 

Either way we're now having a debate about the purpose of the human butt, which I find highly amusing in itself.

[Not a Cat Doll]

http://news.softpedi...sts-46783.shtml

 

And many more if you just Google search my claim

I don't have a problem with what you think, so there's no need to be defensive. It's just that your claim contradicts what I learned in biological anthropology, human biology, sexual anthropology, and the book "Born to Run," by Christopher McDougall, which is why I asked for your specific sources. It is generally argued that the advent of bipedalism contributed to the development of our unique ass shape(s), whereas you claim it diminished it. The human ass provides us with a center of gravity, and is one of a few physical traits that allows us to walk without using our hands. We haven't evolved past needing an ass to walk upright, so I can't really agree that it's strictly just for show these days.

[Dean_the_Young]

They were called kossith before the Qun. Now they're not.

In-universe, nobody refers to them as anything other than "qunari" (or "ox-men" and variants, for those who like racial slurs).

 

"What's her race?"

 

"Ox-man."

 

"...but she's a woman."

[andy6915]

So the fact that just about every ape species in existence having butts meant solely for attracting mates, and us being apes ourselves, have nothing to do with anything (sarcasm). I don't deny they also took on their current shape to better support walking and running upright, but that function for them evolved on top of the function they've had since apes came into existence, ie attracting mates. This theory also is the only explanation for why female breasts on humans are the way they are when no other ape species on the planet has breasts like humans do.

[Malanek]

Dead serious. Butts are almost entirely for sexual attraction in apes, it's why the vast majority of all ape species have inflated and obvious shapes. Not just apes either, donkeys for example have what are called "butt pads", and those are entirely for making the butt look as appealing as possible to the opposite sex for mating purposes. And human boobs have the look they do because being bipedal made our butts less noticeable.

 

I didn't think so many people would have a problem with my post. It's just simple biology and evolutionary theory.

It's the other way around. They house the gluteal muscles and are formed by exercise. People find them attractive from an evolutionary point of view because it is a sign of a strong attractive mate.

[andy6915]

I don't have a problem with what you think, so there's no need to be defensive. It's just that your claim contradicts what I learned in biological anthropology, human biology, sexual anthropology, and the book "Born to Run," by Christopher McDougall, which is why I asked for your specific sources. It is generally argued that the advent of bipedalism contributed to the development of our unique ass shape(s), whereas you claim it diminished it. The human ass provides us with a center of gravity, and is one of a few physical traits that allows us to walk without using our hands. We haven't evolved past needing an ass to walk upright, so I can't really agree that it's strictly just for show these days.

 

I'm getting defensive because I'm getting argued and attacked by several people at once now for that post. By the way, humans were walking upright even before those evolutions to the butt design you mention. So they aren't as vital as you think for that function.

[Not a Cat Doll]

I'm getting defensive because I'm getting argued and attacked by several people at once now for that post. By the way, humans were walking upright even before those evolutions to the butt design you mention. So they aren't as vital as you think for that function.

Well, if having to justify your claims makes you defensive, I don't know what to tell you. But I will suggest using more credible sources than Softpedia to back them up. Take care.

[andy6915]

It's the other way around. They house the gluteal muscles and are formed by exercise. People find them attractive from an evolutionary point of view because it is a sign of a strong attractive mate.

 

So human butts are just ultra rare exceptions where they don't have a sexual function while every other ape the the history of the species had their butts serving that function... And even though ours don't even look that different from most apes, unlike human breasts which are obviously very different looking from other apes.

[Halfdan The Menace]

350% more players chose female dwarf over male dwarf. Like I pointed out in that thread - this seems like a pretty big difference. 

Then again... Varric?

What's the matter? you can't stand the sight of a strong Dwarf woman?

[andy6915]

Well, if having to justify your claims makes you defensive, I don't know what to tell you. But I will suggest using more credible sources than Softpedia to back them up. Take care.

 

Fine...

 

http://www.holysmoke...fem/fem0067.htm

 

I think I know what the problem is. We humans like to think we're special exceptions to everything, and people don't like the idea of a body part existing mostly to be stared at as eye candy and are meant to be objectified. The reactions in this thread to my posts support both those guesses on my part.

[frylock23]

I apologize if this hasn't already been mentioned, but it's pretty pointless to try to draw any conclusions about the player base itself based on the data because there IS no data about the respondents. As far as you know, a significant chunk of people who are going to play human male Inquisitors are female players, but since the poll didn't ask anyone anything like that ... any speculations about who plays what and why is just that, pure speculation.

[Malanek]

So human butts are just ultra rare exceptions where they don't have a sexual function while every other ape the the history of the species had their butts serving that function... And even though ours don't even look that different from most apes, unlike human breasts which are obviously very different looking from other apes.

I am not saying they don't have a sexual function. They attract. Its just they attract because they are a genetic signal. I can't believe I am contemplating researching "ape butts" to prove a point. I am not an expert but I am pretty sure you will find that ape butts are also formed by a set of muscles. They can move and jump around quite vigorously. It's also fat which is an evolutionary sign of how well fed and healthy you are. For females the hips give an indication of how well they carry young. All these are ways a prospective mate can identify how suitable that ape is as a mate.

[WildOrchid]

O.o

The butt post... just wow.

[andy6915]

I am not saying they don't have a sexual function. They attract. Its just they attract because they are a genetic signal. I can't believe I am contemplating researching "ape butts" to prove a point. I am not an expert but I am pretty sure you will find that ape butts are also formed by a set of muscles. They can move and jump around quite vigorously. It's also fat which is an evolutionary sign of how well fed and healthy you are. For females the hips give an indication of how well they carry young. All these are ways a prospective mate can identify how suitable that ape is as a mate.

 

True, most likely butts started off initially as just the top of the thigh and only later started becoming sexual characteristics. I didn't say butts have always been for this purpose, but it is certainly one of the biggest purposes for modern day apes regardless of their original meaning. Look at human female breasts, those also started out purely for feeding like most apes before taking on a sexual purpose which they don't have for any apes besides humans.

[WildOrchid]

Fine...

 

http://www.holysmoke...fem/fem0067.htm

 

I think I know what the problem is. We humans like to think we're special exceptions to everything, and people don't like the idea of a body part existing mostly to be stared at as eye candy and are meant to be objectified. The reactions in this thread to my posts support both those guesses on my part.

 

So when you talk butts.... you mean only female butts? What about male butts.

[Malanek]

True, most likely butts started off initially as just the top of the thigh and only later started becoming sexual characteristics. I didn't say butts have always been for this purpose, but it is certainly one of the biggest purposes for modern day apes regardless of their original meaning. Look at human female breasts, those also started out purely for feeding like most apes before taking on a sexual purpose which they don't have for any apes besides humans.

 

The only real issue I had with what you said in the first instance was the "Butts sole purpose is attracting mates" which isn't accurate. Then some of you defense was bit unconsidered. It's no big issue though.

[andy6915]

So when you talk butts.... you mean only female butts? What about male butts.

 
I'm going to go with both sexes. Considering how women like man butts as much as men like woman butts, I'm going to take a guess that it goes both ways for humans. Even for other ape species it seems to go both ways.
 

The only real issue I had with what you said in the first instance was the "Butts sole purpose is attracting mates" which isn't accurate. Then some of you defense was bit unconsidered. It's no big issue though.

I shouldn't have said "sole" reason. It is certainly a significant part of why our butts evolved the way they have, but it's not 100% of the reason either. They definitely are partly to help our bipedal movement as well. So I should have said that rather than saying it was the only reason.