OP, if Dragon Age had cat people EVERYONE would be a cat person (just look at ffxiv).
People (especially female) want to be the prettiest (look at the top mods on DANexus, the beautifying character mods, the pretty hair mods) character. Also the outcry over the change in elves from DA2, they are apparently not pretty enough because they don't stand in line with the LOTR elven models that everyone wants to be.
People with be whatever they think is sexier.
If the idea that people might actually talk seriously about gender roles in society gets your teeth grating,
It doesn't. It grates my teeth when they can find this as the only explanation for an amount of data which is neither representative nor significant.
According to the poll, we don't have any idea how the ratio of number of people playing a character of their own gender vs. number of people playing a character of different gender is. The original explanation simply assumed one thing. I pointed out that with a different assumption, you could come up to completely different results.
imagine how irritating it is to listen to people make the same stale, tired jokes about female butts being there solely as nice things for men to look at. Added bonus: getting referred to as "the ladies" or "chicks" and being told that the only reason women would play as a certain race would be because of a dude.
I said explicitly that there could any number of explanations, and that the one I've supplied was neither to be taken as the only one nor to be taken too seriously.
Here are a few others I can think of off the top of my head:
A qunari female has not appeared in any game before and as such holds a special interest as opposed to qunari males, which have appeared before.
Elves are considered lithe and aren't shown as physically very strong in terms of raw muscles. Often, male characters are chosen for roles where physical strength is a major factor (even though I admit that there are counter examples in the DA universe). So it could be that male characters are more often warriors, and elves don't lend themselves very well to being warriors (in DAO, their stat distribution didn't favor warriors).
Possibly people are influenced by the trailers, which have shown a male human inquisitor and a female qunari inquisitor.
Perhaps players of male characters don't care so much about the race, because they are interested more in game mechanics, and go by a perceived "default".
Perhaps there are reasons pertaining to stat point distribution.
The affinity to female dwarves could be caused by the fact that Jennifer Hepler, who created most of the dwarvenverse, struck a particular cord with female players. Other fantasy games I know (WoW, Warhammer) certainly have a far smaller female dwarfen representation than DA.
I cannot test any of these theories, and I have no idea if any of them are true, but all of them seem as good as the one originally given. And, yeah, none of them talk about butts.
Fine...
http://www.holysmoke...fem/fem0067.htm
I think I know what the problem is. We humans like to think we're special exceptions to everything, and people don't like the idea of a body part existing mostly to be stared at as eye candy and are meant to be objectified. The reactions in this thread to my posts support both those guesses on my part.
Not really. I wouldn't have taken those anthropology classes if I wanted to feel exceptional- I am very much a believer in Darwin's theory of evolution (as well as Kropotkin's, tbh). But you made a sweeping and inaccurate claim "Butts sole purpose is attracting mates" - that's what I think people are contesting.
Not really. I wouldn't have taken those anthropology classes if I wanted to feel exceptional- I am very much a believer in Darwin's theory of evolution (as well as Kropotkin's, tbh). But you made a sweeping and inaccurate claim "Butts sole purpose is attracting mates" - that's what I think people are contesting.
I already said that the word "sole" was a bad choice in my last post in this thread and that I should have used different wording, what more do you want?
Back on topic, yeah it is somewhat interesting. As has been pointed out we don't know exactly what gender people were who picked what, which makes a lot of things break down. It could be fair to assume that more males will play males and more females will play females. However it could also mean that people who a more prepared to play as a different gender are also more prepared to play as a different species.
Personally for me Male Qunari so long as it looks good in the character creator.
People (especially female) want to be the prettiest (look at the top mods on DANexus, the beautifying character mods, the pretty hair mods) character.
Some people, sure, but not everybody. I've made characters that were deliberately plain-looking or unattractive for roleplaying reasons.
(But then, I preferred DA2 elves to DAO elves, so what do I know?)
My first Inquisitor will probably be a human female (like I am), and my second playthrough will probably be a dwarf or qunari female. Elves don't really hold any interest for me, and I'd likely consider playing another human female before playing as an elf. I don't know whether they will be pretty or ugly, because I like to wait and see what the CC inspires me to do before deciding on that.
It's a beauty peageant, everybody wants to be fabulous.OP, if Dragon Age had cat people EVERYONE would be a cat person (just look at ffxiv).
People (especially female) want to be the prettiest (look at the top mods on DANexus, the beautifying character mods, the pretty hair mods) character. Also the outcry over the change in elves from DA2, they are apparently not pretty enough because they don't stand in line with the LOTR elven models that everyone wants to be.
People with be whatever they think is sexier.
Heh, must admit that I try to make my characters as visually pleasing to me as possible. But then again, I've been told my taste is questionable so maybe not that attractive to most. Mods aren't an option for me (console gamer) so I'll just have to make the best of what Bioware give me.
I'm female. I preferred to play my Wardens as women, mostly elves as I'm always elves in fantasy games. Hawkes I played split between male and female because I enjoyed them both, and my inquisitors will be a mix of both as well, mostly at the fault of Dorian. Female Qunari will be first, and elven male will be second. I've never played as either a female qunari or a male elf before so that's pretty much the level of thought process that went into those choices. Nothing all that deep or interesting comes outta this brain.
The OP asks a question entirely based on conjecture, on polling results that have zero scientific accuracy and is looking for the deep social implications from the "data" ....a stern head shake should follow.
The poster makes a snide comment, ignoring that OP has repeatedly stated their awareness that the poll has no scientific merit and that they aren't making any statements about the deep social implications but looking to talk about the interesting aspects of the poll, in order to be glib... an exaggerated eye roll should follow.
That's a pretty big stretch, Beerfish.Did they say maybe it is anything at all? You will find a lot of 'maybe it is' really means I think it is this and I am going to try and convince you that it is but I don't have the proper data to back it up.
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Nope. I prefer an interesting PC, sexy doesn't even factor into it, and pretty only works if I think it suits the character.OP, if Dragon Age had cat people EVERYONE would be a cat person (just look at ffxiv).
People (especially female) want to be the prettiest (look at the top mods on DANexus, the beautifying character mods, the pretty hair mods) character. Also the outcry over the change in elves from DA2, they are apparently not pretty enough because they don't stand in line with the LOTR elven models that everyone wants to be.
People with be whatever they think is sexier.
I expect my qunari female will be as ugly as sin.
In case the OP wonders: I'm female, I played a female human in Origins, and I'm playing a non-human female now because qunari are tall.
I had to laugh, because that is literally my exact reasoning. I want to play a big, tall female character for once!
I'm playing as a female qunari first precisely because of the lack of novelty: she's the only BioWare character that's as tall as I am.
I expect my qunari female will be as ugly as sin.
In case the OP wonders: I'm female, I played a female human in Origins, and I'm playing a non-human female now because qunari are tall.
I have 5 playthroughs planned but my first one will be a human female rogue.
Feh I'm rolling a female Elf toon because I think female elves are sexy that and good female leads in action rpgs are sadly lacking.
Uh... Actually... That is why they exist. Butts, I mean. The butt is in fact the truest sexual characteristics for our species, just like why baboons have such obvious and large butts. Butts sole purpose is attracting mates. Obviously the hole inside the butt isn't meant for that, but the cheeks that surround it certainly are. In fact, butts are why human female breasts are enlarged and inflated 24/7 instead of just when they're pregnant or nursing like literally every other mammal on the entire planet. Butts became a little less "in your face" once we started walking upright, so female breasts became what they are today to somewhat mimic butts so that they could be the "in your face" sexual characteristic instead. So yes, boobs are meant to be chest butts on top of being for feeding infants.
So yeah, butts are in fact entirely for eye candy.
Obvious, indisputable fact guys. It's why Kim Kardashian is the most attractive woman in the world ever.
Since I have no interest in reading the other 5 pages:
No.
You're trying too hard. Drawing conclusions out of thin air with sketchy and or no data at all.
This is accurate.
So far there are 825 answers. Most "accurate" polls only use 1,000 people
It is done 1 per account so it is better than most online polls. I am not saying it is perfect data. But it is data and it does match up with what we already knew about 50-60% of players playing male humans. What is interesting is then where and how the rest of the categories are divided... and there seems to be a consistent pattern
No.
Most scientific polls use a sample size that is relevant/useful in being able to show that there is statistical evidence (for psychology that would be p <= .05 - 95% chance) that shows that the results are not by chance.
If you have 1000 people in a poll you increase the chances that the p value will be less than/equal to .05. So the best studies have a sample size that BLAH--- Too much psychology/stats mumbo-jumbo. End of tangent.
Bioware Forum surveys are unscientific and have too small a sample size. The only thing worthwhile you can gain from them is amusement.
We should form a club!
Ah, I want to join. It's just that my first female human mage will be too short.
No.
You're trying too hard. Drawing conclusions out of thin air with sketchy and or no data at all.
That's like 80% of BSN.
In Origins, I played 6 Heroes of Ferelden and one orlesean warden-Commander. Of the wardens, I played human male twice (HN and mage), elf female then male, and dwarf female and male. The orlesian was human female. The first playthrough was the female city elf. I'm male, but I don't have any particular convention about the characters I play other than I tend to play a male first, then female, and I like to play very different people from one playthrough to the next.. In DA it's different. I chose my first playthrough as the story that just seemed the most interesting in that moment, and every subsequent playthrough across all installments has chained directly from that. Dragon Age provides a unique opportunity to play a high number of very distinct stories from more varied perspectives (barring DA2), so I don't feel the need to make my first playthrough *the canon* that I'm going to invest myself in most strongly. Instead, it's more about mixing and matching my characters off of each other. In DA2 I finished three and a half playthroughs out of six started, 1 male first, two females, then half another male, and two more males I created but decided to recreate for the Keep instead of play out because there's not enough variance in DA2. Can't wait to import them all into DA:I though. I don't think boredom will be a problem anymore. ^^
Somehow, I'm still playing the most popular option in that pole first, the human male rift mage. So that's interesting. Also, that's one of the combos that's yet to be promoed, so maybe it's more something about that specific concept in the DA:I scenario that's skewing the poll data a little bit. Apart from the other things people are pointing out. It's only the fourth mage I've played so far in the franchise, and the third playthrough I'll finish.
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