I'd much rather have a protagonist with a background and actually FEEL like my character existed in the world before I took control of them. Blank slate doesn't really do anything for me. Especially in a heavily story based game like this.
A blank slate protagonist that nobody knows or seems to have no place in the world makes me feel...artificial.
All I know is that I hope these backgrounds will be a bit more intrigante than that of Mass Effect - They sound neat though!
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I'd much rather have a protagonist with a background and actually FEEL like my character existed in the world before I took control of them. Blank slate doesn't really do anything for me. Especially in a heavily story based game like this.
A blank slate protagonist that nobody knows or seems to have no place in the world makes me feel...artificial.
agree thats what I love about the Dragon Age Series and absoluetly hate about TES
like I said there are certain restrictions in the DA series I mean like I said you can't headcanon a Qunari Mage being at the peace conference for negotiating being a mercenary fits the race and the world of DA much better
so of course its story related
Skyrim took the the bad route in my opinion it doesn't matter AT ALL which race you pick there is basically no story no consequences
you just happen to be a prisoner for whatever reason that was soo annoying for having to come up with everything for my character
So I glad I stopped playing after a few hours I suppose its just not my game so I would prefer that Dragon Age doesn't ever go that route
These are games remember?? I'm not a freaking writer I mean I like to RP but there has to be a basis first (like the origin stories in DA:O) not just randomly dropping me into a world with a faceless/emotionless protagonist
What pretty much kills a lot rp option or even makes them look stupid for example human mage reason for being in conference makes sense only for pro-circle/chantry mage. Dwarf pretty much work for brutal criminal organization then acting like typical fantasy hero doesn't even make sense what was in case in dao in dwarf commoner origin. In fact only sensible origin is for human noble.
And what consequences you want?Peoples refer to your race and sometimes even have problem with you or react with suspicion in skyrim.Well that is pretty much essence of rp creating own character...
They didn't backstory was just up to you.
I'm definitely hoping the beginning is playable :s
Maybe... since they said we won't have old school origin quests, I get the feeling that it will begin with us standing around at the peace conference...
The elf being sent as a spy surprised me. Won't do them many favours when they have to explain themselves to cassandra I'm sure...
It's implied that the gods of the TES universe drop a character like yours when they're needed into the right place at the right time.
Also, it's tradition.
actually not entirely true. In the Dawnguard DLC, the Dragonborn can discuss his/her past and parents etc. with Serana. Implying they did actually have some sort of an existence before the intro.
Unless you're just saying they drop your character in prison whenever they're needed, then yeah.
actually not entirely true. In the Dawnguard DLC, the Dragonborn can discuss his/her past and parents etc. with Serana. Implying they did actually have some sort of an existence before the intro.
Unless you're just saying they drop your character in prison whenever they're needed, then yeah.
Well you can do that even without that dlc as you are asked if you have any family but it is little different than in da.In dragon age devs set backstory for you in skyrim you did that by selecting dialogue option for example player could say they were orphans ,hated parents or they were in good relationship and more.That is what i would like to see in da instead making reason or backstory for player what pretty much may damage some characters as it have little sense.
Maybe... since they said we won't have old school origin quests, I get the feeling that it will begin with us standing around at the peace conference...
Maybe... since they said we won't have old school origin quests, I get the feeling that it will begin with us standing around at the peace conference...
Can you imagine how anti-climatic the intro could possibly be lol. The game would begin immediately (without even an intro cutscene) showing your inquisitor standing around with a blank stare, then green-splosion 5 seconds later.
Can you imagine how anti-climatic the intro could possibly be lol. The game would begin immediately (without even an intro cutscene) showing your inquisitor standing around with a blank stare, then green-splosion 5 seconds later.
lol.... well, I don't want to get my hopes up by expecting too much. 
Can you imagine how anti-climatic the intro could possibly be lol. The game would begin immediately (without even an intro cutscene) showing your inquisitor standing around with a blank stare, then green-splosion 5 seconds later.
I hope it's not like Mass Effect 3 where you're forced into combat straight away
Mass Effect 2's introduction was brilliant, one of the best done openings in video games, but that relied on the Normandy's nostalgia. There's nothing to be attached to in the Dragon Age series(like the normandy) unless they brutally murder all of your Origins squadmates at the start
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What pretty much kills a lot rp option or even makes them look stupid for example human mage reason for being in conference makes sense only for pro-circle/chantry mage. Dwarf pretty much work for brutal criminal organization then acting like typical fantasy hero doesn't even make sense what was in case in dao in dwarf commoner origin. In fact only sensible origin is for human noble.
And what consequences you want?Peoples refer to your race and sometimes even have problem with you or react with suspicion in skyrim.Well that is pretty much essence of rp creating own character...
They didn't backstory was just up to you.
I like to RP as much as ever RPG fan I will actually have a playthrough of an human mage who is against the chantry and I'm sure that we have the option to express it in the game no idea why you say it looks stupid and isn't sensible and having a Qunari mage negotiating there somehow is? you must be kidding talking about RP and then saying that something doesn't make sense
also it doesn't mean that I want to headcanon the whole freaking backstory in my opinion
thats just a very bad excuse by the developers(of Skyrim and other similiar games) to spare resources
No idea why you are so obsessed of the idea of having to decide EVERYTHING yourself go write a book if you want that
well I'm just glad that you aren't in charge
also I think you are in the wrong forum mate I mean this was never the case in Dragon Age ( full blank slate character) and hopefully it never will be no idea why you are complaining about it when it was never part of the series
The elf being sent as a spy surprised me. Won't do them many favours when they have to explain themselves to cassandra I'm sure...
To be fair the explanation could just be "We weren't spying so we could use anything against you, but when the chantry has big meetings we're always worried "burn the heretics" will be on the decided agenda so we want to make sure we don't have to run"
Can you imagine how anti-climatic the intro could possibly be lol. The game would begin immediately (without even an intro cutscene) showing your inquisitor standing around with a blank stare, then green-splosion 5 seconds later.
I expect it will start with an introduction of who we are, why we're there, and who we know at the conference. Probably a cameo of the Divine and the Mage Leaders. Then we will notice something suspicious and follow the suspicious fellow who is doing suspicious things, only to see him pass the point of no return and cause the breach. We will, of course, be at ground zero, and see him escape the effects of his actions right before everything goes green explosion-y. Then we'll have our scene in the fade with the glowy figure, get our glowy hand, and then fall out of the Fade in time for Cassandra to find us.
To be fair the explanation could just be "We weren't spying so we could use anything against you, but when the chantry has big meetings we're always worried "burn the heretics" will be on the decided agenda so we want to make sure we don't have to run"
Mm, not sure I would use that card. For a pro-Chantry zealot, you are actually explaining why a Dalish would want to blow up the temple (to ensure that the 'burn the heretics' agenda wasn't carried on).
I expect it will start with an introduction of who we are, why we're there, and who we know at the conference. Probably a cameo of the Divine and the Mage Leaders. Then we will notice something suspicious and follow the suspicious fellow who is doing suspicious things, only to see him pass the point of no return and cause the breach. We will, of course, be at ground zero, and see him escape the effects of his actions right before everything goes green explosion-y. Then we'll have our scene in the fade with the glowy figure, get our glowy hand, and then fall out of the Fade in time for Cassandra to find us.
I don't know. Seeing "a suspicious fellow" would mean giving away the culprit from the start instead of using that information for a twist later. Also, it sounds as if the two spies (Dwarf and Dalish) are alone, thus no chance to play the 'long time no see' card with other people.
I like to RP as much as ever RPG fan I will actually have a playthrough of an human mage who is against the chantry and I'm sure that we have the option to express it in the game no idea why you say it looks stupid and isn't sensible and having a Qunari mage negotiating there somehow is? you must be kidding talking about RP and then saying that something doesn't make sense
also it doesn't mean that I want to headcanon the whole freaking backstory in my opinion
thats just a very bad excuse by the developers(of Skyrim and other similiar games) to spare resources
No idea why you are so obsessed of the idea of having to decide EVERYTHING yourself go write a book if you want that
well I'm just glad that you aren't in charge
also I think you are in the wrong forum mate I mean this was never the case in Dragon Age ( full blank slate character) and hopefully it never will be no idea why you are complaining about it when it was never part of the series
Eee did you even read what i have said? I said that magi origin have sense only from pro-circle/chantry mage after all why anti-circle/chantry mage would show up and help with conference that point is bring them under chantry control?Then why apostate qunari mage would show up and risk own freedom revealing their existence to the chantry when pretty much result would be circles.As i said origins block some rp options and make them stupid in case some characters.
Not it doesn't i allows you create character that you want instead pro-mage character that helps templars catch other mages backstory...
LoL so what? it seems that you start getting little angry because you try kick me out from this forum with cheap logic because something never was part of the series... so if series have horrible graphics players shouldn't complain about it because it was never in case with certain series?
Mm, not sure I would use that card. For a pro-Chantry zealot, you are actually explaining why a Dalish would want to blow up the temple (to ensure that the 'burn the heretics' agenda wasn't carried on).
I don't know. Seeing "a suspicious fellow" would mean giving away the culprit from the start instead of using that information for a twist later. Also, it sounds as if the two spies (Dwarf and Dalish) are alone, thus no chance to play the 'long time no see' card with other people.
Given the E3 demos, I'm pretty sure we already know who is physically responsible for the breach. (removed some stuff in case people didn't want to know further detail)
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Eee did you even read what i have said? I said that magi origin have sense only from pro-circle/chantry mage after all why anti-circle/chantry mage would show up and help with conference that point is bring them under chantry control?Then why apostate qunari mage would show up and risk own freedom revealing their existence to the chantry when pretty much result would be circles.As i said origins block some rp options and make them stupid in case some characters.
Not it doesn't i allows you create character that you want instead pro-mage character that helps templars catch other mages backstory...
LoL so what? it seems that you start getting little angry because you try kick me out from with cheap logic because something never was part of the series... so if series have horrible graphics players shouldn't complain about it because it was never in case with certain series?
quite funny that you are basically comparing having these backstories to horrible graphics as if its a disadvantage keep dreaming
And I think that you yourself are blocking possible Rp options I mean sure the chantry probably wants the mages in a circle again BUT who says that the mages want that? Maybe they are there to negotiate to stop the fighting and who except of course if you want to roleplay as a crazy maniac who likes killing doesn't want that?
Given the E3 demos, I'm pretty sure we already know who is physically responsible for the breach. (removed some stuff in case people didn't want to know further detail)
But do we know at what point the demos happen? The reveal could be a mid-plot twist. It wouldn't be the first time in a Bioware game.
quite funny that you are basically comparing having these backstories to horrible graphics as if its a disadvantage keep dreaming
And I think that you yourself are blocking possible Rp options I mean sure the chantry probably wants the mages in a circle again BUT who says that the mages want that? Maybe they are there to negotiate to stop the fighting and who except of course if you want to roleplay as a crazy maniac who likes killing doesn't want that?
Eh god... im comparing nothing i gave an example as i said it is disadvantage in terms of rp i explained why that you can't stand others opinion isn't my problem.
The point of conference is made to peace between templars and mages what pretty much means mages are back under their control with softened restrains at best...
But do we know at what point the demos happen? The reveal could be a mid-plot twist. It wouldn't be the first time in a Bioware game.
I believe we were told it was fairly early in the game. Regardless, seeing someone suspicious doing suspicious things doesn't necessarily equate to giving away their identity, even if it were a mid/late revelation. Could be a shadowy figure, someone in disguise, someone hiding their identity, etc etc. Lots of ways to have us actually witness the event happen without explicitly giving away who exactly we were chasing down.
Eee did you even read what i have said? I said that magi origin have sense only from pro-circle/chantry mage after all why anti-circle/chantry mage would show up and help with conference that point is bring them under chantry control?Then why apostate qunari mage would show up and risk own freedom revealing their existence to the chantry when pretty much result would be circles.As i said origins block some rp options and make them stupid in case some characters.
Actually, it makes total sense. If you truly are an anti-Circle mage, then the conference is the best place for you to be. Afterall, a solid portion of your leadership is there. If you don't show up, the Pro-Circle Chantry Loyalists(the only people who have a reason to show up, in your view) will give away everything, and the war will be for nothing. There needs to be a voice advocating for the end of Templar tyranny, to remind all the mages why the rebelled in the first place.
Saying that there is no reason to show up is like saying there is no reason for the opposite political party to show up when an agenda they disagree with is being debated. That's political suicide.
"Any objections? No? OK, motion is passed. Mages are now back under Templar authority. Good job, everybody!"
Actually, it makes total sense. If you truly are an anti-Circle mage, then the conference is the best place for you to be. Afterall, a solid portion of your leadership is there. If you don't show up, the Pro-Circle Chantry Loyalists(the only people who have a reason to show up, in your view) will give away everything, and the war will be for nothing. There needs to be a voice advocating for the end of Templar tyranny, to remind all the mages why the rebelled in the first place.
Saying that there is no reason to show up is like saying there is no reason for the opposite political party to show up when an agenda they disagree with is being debated. That's political suicide.
"Any objections? No? OK, motion is passed. Mages are now back under Templar authority. Good job, everybody!"
Mages didn't rebelled in first place most mages did it against their will but it is just that little fact not revelant here just to remind. 
As i said conference is to bring peace what in reality means mages under control otherwise i don't see peace part on templars side.How loyalists will give up anything outside their own freedom as this is point of that conference for other it would be like rebels showing up on their own trial.
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