So the Elven Mage is indeed The First Apprentice? Neat.
I think that playing as an elven mage could be a lot of fun. Having an understanding of elven lore, being versed in elvish, being viewed as capable enough to infiltrate an important meeting to ascertain whether or not there's a threat to the Elvhen. There's also the mystery as to why the protagonist has the same surname as the clan.
I think that playing as an elven mage could be a lot of fun. Having an understanding of elven lore, being versed in elvish, being viewed as capable enough to infiltrate an important meeting to ascertain whether or not there's a threat to the Elvhen. There's also the mystery as to why the protagonist has the same surname as the clan.
I'm actually quite intrigued by the concept of playing an Elven Mage who isn't part of the Circle for once. Got a bit tired of the self-rightenouss in that origin, so this is certainly welcoming. I always did like the Dalish for the intriguing lore that surrounds the culture and the origin.
I think that playing as an elven mage could be a lot of fun. Having an understanding of elven lore, being versed in elvish, being viewed as capable enough to infiltrate an important meeting to ascertain whether or not there's a threat to the Elvhen. There's also the mystery as to why the protagonist has the same surname as the clan.
If you like being Dalish, sure.
Is it confirmed that the elven mage is the First?
I was hoping that the Inquisitor's clan had a lot of mages like the one from Brecilian Forest in DAO and someone else had been named First (like the ones who lost out to Lanaya) so you're not abandoning your duty as First when you form the Inquisition.
There could be other contenders within Clan Lavellan; as you pointed out, Lanaya competed against several others, and mages like Elora held other positions within the clan. I'm sure someone else might step up to the plate while our elven mage becomes vital to dealing with the crisis of the Breach. I imagine that saving the world is a sufficient reason to put aside your responsibilities for the clan for the purpose of saving all the Elvhen who are threatened by the spirits pouring out of the Beyond. I feel really jubilant about the idea of playing as a Dalish mage who saves the world.
There could be other contenders within Clan Lavellan; as you pointed out, Lanaya competed against several others, and mages like Elora held other positions within the clan. I'm sure someone else might step up to the plate while our elven mage becomes vital to dealing with the crisis of the Breach. I imagine that saving the world is a sufficient reason to put aside your responsibilities for the clan for the purpose of saving all the Elvhen who are threatened by the spirits pouring out of the Beyond. I feel really jubilant about the idea of playing as a Dalish mage who saves the world.
I know it can be reasoned out I just would have preferred being one of the spares that's all.
There's also the mystery as to why the protagonist has the same surname as the clan.
Yes, that's intriguing. It could be something as important as the Inquisitor being a descendant of the Lavellan who founded the clan, or as banal as the Inquisitor lacking a family name (very typical in the Middle Ages for non-nobles) and taking it from his or her clan. I think the same happens with the Dwarven Inquisitor, doesn't it?
I know it can be reasoned out I just would have preferred being one of the spares that's all.
Sorry about that, Sanrya.
Yes, that's intriguing. It could be something as important as the Inquisitor being a descendant of the Lavellan who founded the clan, or as banal as the Inquisitor lacking a family name (very typical in the Middle Ages for non-nobles) and taking it from his or her clan. I think the same happens with the Dwarven Inquisitor, doesn't it?
That's a possibility; it would be interesting to have the protagonist as the descendant of the founder of the clan, as their name could carry weight with the Dalish. I'm not sure if the ancestry of the Dwarven main character was addressed. Personally, I'm speculating that the Dwarven protagonist could be a descendant of Shale's family.
There could be some serious concern among the People about how the Mage-Templar War will effect them, considering that the Dalish weren't on the best terms with the templars or the Chantry before the war. It could be a precaution for protection, to avoid the Elvhen getting caught in the crossfire.
That is exactly what I was thinking.
What I'm really curious about is if there will be a playable prologue. The Human Inquisitor is supposed to have family at the conference, after all. I think it would be nice to get to know the a little before they all die.
Humans get an extra ability point, qunari get 50 extra health, and elves get...
25% ranged defense. Okay. >__>;;
yeah seems like the Elves get the shaft again lol, i was seriously expecting a ranged attack bonus, or a speed bonus.
yeah seems like the Elves get the shaft again lol, i was seriously expecting a ranged attack bonus, or a speed bonus.
I think having a 25% range defense bonus helps elves avoid getting shafted (with arrows).
Well, we know only a bits of backgrounds, but from what has been released so far, it leaves me with a lot of headscratching.
So, let's see:
1) Can they finally settle on all this mess with Vashoth/Tal-Vashoth, kossith/Qunari? It does nothing but confusing people;
2) After all the tension, buildup and drama of DAII's 2nd Act, the Chantry hires Qunari as bodyguards for one of the most important peace conventions? Hires Qunari mage as one of the bodyguards, the Chantry? Really? No good human mercs left on Thedas? Ugh...;
3) Dalish. With vallaslin. As a spy. What kind of interactive skills among human society does this nomad have, to put a convincing act?
4) Human noble, here we go again. We're being pushed into the Chantry/Order. What about our PC's age differentiating between 20 and 40? So, if I want to play a devote Andrastian and also want to make a middle-aged character, what justification should I have for not being in the Chantry/Order for 20+ years?
The only backgrounds I don't have a problem with - is Dwarf and Human mage. The rest looks to not be thought out in the slightest. I can only hope that with more info some of this facepalming would go away.
1) Can they finally settle on all this mess with Vashoth/Tal-Vashoth, kossith/Qunari? It does nothing but confusing people
A: In case anyone’s curious, the backgrounds being referenced are the ones posted on the Dragon Age website here. As for the question, let me preface it with a clarification regarding terminology in Dragon Age. There is terminology as used by the Qunari themselves—meaning the followers of the Qun, who have very specific and rigid standards regarding their classification of things, standards which are meaningless to anyone outside of the Qun—and there is terminology as used by everyone else in Thedas. If one is talking to a follower of the Qun in-game, they will use their own standards for terminology and simply do not care if whomever they are speaking to doesn’t understand. That doesn’t matter. They are wrong. Everyone else will use the regular terminology, although some might be aware of Qunari terminology. Which is a long way of saying that the difference between “Vashoth” and “Tal-Vashoth” is really only of interest to followers of the Qun, much like the difference between “kossith” and “Qunari”. I’m aware some fans like to use Qunari terminology as the only “correct” one, regardless of context, so for them I’ll say that the Qunari PC is indeed Vashoth as previously clarified. We will use Tal-Vashoth, as the difference is meaningless to everyone but a follower of the Qun…and trying to walk the line of definitions as the Qunari would see them isn’t a rabbit hole we’ll go down right off the bat (though it may indeed come up in-game, again depending on the context of the conversation). Hope that makes sense, as I’ll not explain it again. :)
- David Gaider
A: In case anyone’s curious, the backgrounds being referenced are the ones posted on the Dragon Age website here. As for the question, let me preface it with a clarification regarding terminology in Dragon Age. There is terminology as used by the Qunari themselves—meaning the followers of the Qun, who have very specific and rigid standards regarding their classification of things, standards which are meaningless to anyone outside of the Qun—and there is terminology as used by everyone else in Thedas. If one is talking to a follower of the Qun in-game, they will use their own standards for terminology and simply do not care if whomever they are speaking to doesn’t understand. That doesn’t matter. They are wrong. Everyone else will use the regular terminology, although some might be aware of Qunari terminology. Which is a long way of saying that the difference between “Vashoth” and “Tal-Vashoth” is really only of interest to followers of the Qun, much like the difference between “kossith” and “Qunari”. I’m aware some fans like to use Qunari terminology as the only “correct” one, regardless of context, so for them I’ll say that the Qunari PC is indeed Vashoth as previously clarified. We will use Tal-Vashoth, as the difference is meaningless to everyone but a follower of the Qun…and trying to walk the line of definitions as the Qunari would see them isn’t a rabbit hole we’ll go down right off the bat (though it may indeed come up in-game, again depending on the context of the conversation). Hope that makes sense, as I’ll not explain it again. :)- David Gaider
Yeah, first they say it's important to Qunari, as their roles define them as a whole, and Vashoth/Tal-Vashoth is 2 different roles. Then they say that the difference is meaningless and should be neglected. Sigh, this is nothing but headache.
yeah seems like the Elves get the shaft again lol, i was seriously expecting a ranged attack bonus, or a speed bonus.
It's kind of lame, but at least it will help avoid some magic projectiles, not just arrows... so it's not totally weak.
1) Can they finally settle on all this mess with Vashoth/Tal-Vashoth, kossith/Qunari? It does nothing but confusing people;
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2) After all the tension, buildup and drama of DAII's 2nd Act, the Chantry hires Qunari as bodyguards for one of the most important peace conventions? Hires Qunari mage as one of the bodyguards, the Chantry? Really? No good human mercs left on Thedas? Ugh...;
Precisely. Tal-Vashoth mercenaries don't have reasons to be loyal to any party involved. No land, no title, no agenda except being anti-Qunari (something that would please the Chantry, actually). They are outcasts that will work for money. And they are imposing.
3) Dalish. With vallaslin. As a spy. What kind of interactive skills among human society does this nomad have, to put a convincing act?
If the vallaslin represents the same problem as in DA:O, I think the Dalish spy is very safe in that regard. However, I seriously hope they put points in Cunning, because their social skills among humans should be lacking. Of course, with thousands of people taking part in the conclave (it's not a closed event, it seems), there are many opportunities not to be noticed.
4) Human noble, here we go again. We're being pushed into the Chantry/Order. What about our PC's age differentiating between 20 and 40? So, if I want to play a devote Andrastian and also want to make a middle-aged character, what justification should I have for not being in the Chantry/Order for 20+ years?
That's... That's actually a very good question. I don't know what to say. It would make sense if the character is unwilling (trying to delay the event as much as they can), but not so much if they are willing.
Yeah, first they say it's important to Qunari, as their roles define them as a whole, and Vashoth/Tal-Vashoth is 2 different roles. Then they say that the difference is meaningless and should be neglected. Sigh, this is nothing but headache.
The differences mean nothing to Non-Qunari... Which makes sense. To be frank, not everyone gives two rat tails about the cultural differences of people that, as far as they can tell, have zero difference between them. This is something we see in real life, it's bad and ignorant but the people who are like this just frankly don't care.
The differences mean nothing to Non-Qunari... Which makes sense. To be frank, not everyone gives two rat tails about the cultural differences of people that, as far as they can tell, have zero difference between them. This is something we see in real life, it's bad and ignorant but the people who are like this just frankly don't care.
It's like saying that the difference between freed slave and being born free is meaningless, because both are free atm. But it's very superficial approach.
It's like saying that the difference between freed slave and being born free is meaningless, because both are free atm. But it's very superficial approach.
*Shrug* To some it would be meaningless. It would only matter to the freed slave or not-free slaves.
You forgot Dwarves: 25% bonus to magic defense.
I think many people are going to complain about the backgrounds now. At least we know why a Dalish or Dwarf would be there...they are spies.
Hm, an interesting Dwarf, Dalish origin I wonder if they are invited to the party or if they have to sneak around. The human origin sucks my warden told Mother Maloll and leliana to keep their maker out of my Wardens life.
I think having a 25% range defense bonus helps elves avoid getting shafted (with arrows).
Well played sir, well played.
Human Mage sounds like it's going to offer some interesting roleplaying experiences. I did have plans for a human mage and I know what he's going to look like, See Alexander Siddig as Al-Rahim, but now his personality is forming. He's definitely going to be struggling between his belief in the chantry and his loyalty to the mages.
I've got some decent ideas floating around for Dwarf, Elf and Qunari too but nothing as solid as this one. It's going to be a rare thing if I play human first.
I really dig all the backgrounds, and I was thinking an elven rogue at first now I'm wondering about a Qunari Rogue or an Elven Mage or even a human or a dwarf? Arrrgh. Imma have to play this game several times. Oh what to do, what to do......
That's... That's actually a very good question. I don't know what to say. It would make sense if the character is unwilling (trying to delay the event as much as they can), but not so much if they are willing.
Perhaps the PC is not the problem - perhaps their older siblings are. It could be the PC's family wil not to be sent to the Chantry until their older siblings are safely married off (and possibly with at least one child). Maybe the eldest had trouble having a child, or a middle child was causing lots of havoc and refusing to marry (or otherwise made themselves difficult to marry off)?
Maybe they were meant to be sent off, but between the Blight in Ferelden and the goings on in Kirkwall, they decided to put it off to help the family hold things together.
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