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#151
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Well, we got an answer... if succinct. :lol:
 
A'koss ‏@Megin_Akoss 
So if the Dalish Inquisitor's last name is Lavellan and it is also the name of the clan, are they nobility?
 
Mike Laidlaw ‏@Mike_Laidlaw 
Nope.


ah.

well, I don't think it's "nobility" in the traditional sense. but it would seem the Lavellan family would be like the "head family" of the clan if the clan is named after that family.

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I don't think Dalish really have "nobility", especially when you consider that the First can be a city elf transplanted into the clan.  Leadership isn't a hereditary thing.  

 

But you could probably say that the Dalish Inquisitor is descended from nobility since the names of the clans come from the old nobility of the Dales that founded the clans.  


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Very exciting stuff, I'm going to have to read about Ostwick.



#154
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I don't think Dalish really have "nobility", especially when you consider that the First can be a city elf transplanted into the clan.  Leadership isn't a hereditary thing.  
 
But you could probably say that the Dalish Inquisitor is descended from nobility since the names of the clans come from the old nobility of the Dales that founded the clans.


yeah.....that's why I said it's probably not like nobility in the traditional sense ( you're not an Elf prince or princess or anything ), but just that your are a descendant of the family the clan was named after.
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#155
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I'm really excited for this game and all the different histories but I have to admit I'm still upset we can't be a follower of the Qun.  It seems like Qunari will get kind of shafted culture wise.  It's like all the differences between playing a human and Qunari will be about how you look and people reacting to it.  I can't play as someone with a completely differentl religion and set of values than the people around me.  Kind of sucks but I'm still super hyped for this game.



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I'm really excited for this game and all the different histories but I have to admit I'm still upset we can't be a follower of the Qun.  It seems like Qunari will get kind of shafted culture wise.  It's like all the differences between playing a human and Qunari will be about how you look and people reacting to it.  I can't play as someone with a completely differentl religion and set of values than the people around me.  Kind of sucks but I'm still super hyped for this game.

 

The Qun wouldn't allow you to be the Inquisitor, that is why it's not an option.


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The Qun wouldn't allow you to be the Inquisitor, that is why it's not an option.

 

You mean like how they wouldn't allow you to be a beer swilling, bi-sexual, merc company leader? 



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You mean like how they wouldn't allow you to be a beer swilling, bi-sexual, merc company leader? 

 

That's different, he's supposed to be a spy that everyone thinks is a Vashoth. Pretending to be one who has left the Qun isn't feasible when you're still acting like you follow the Qun. He needs to act the part to fulfill his role as spy. And he still has superiors, the Inquisitor doesn't.


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Anyone else notice that the qunari mages have discolored fingers? They have fingerless gloves as far as I can tell.



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The elves still look like stick figures I see, only taller this time. Pity.

gotta agree, i was stuck between making a lavellan rogue or adaar warrior first but i just cant get over the skinny arms, so adaar it is!

 

no offense meant to elf players out there, just not my thing



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gotta agree, i was stuck between on making a lavellan rogue or adaar warrior first but i just cant get over the skinny arms, so adaar it is!

 

no offense meant to elf players out there, just not my thing

 

Check male elves, are their arms also too skinny for you?



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I get the sense that Bioware isn't really 100% consistent with how Dalish names work. DA 2 establishes Maharial's Clan was called the Sabrae Clan, but the DAO manual calls them the Maharial Clan.



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-nerdgasms-

Buggy but nice find.



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It's cool that the human mage Inquisitor was seeking peace between templars and mages.  It sounds like they were quite loyal to the Circle system.



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Pretty sure he and his sister were both city elves, according to the preview of The Last Flight.

It's nice to have confirmation about this :)



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I like how the Dalish background says you had little need to interact with humans.

 

I actually hope that comes into play, storywise,  in how you can role your Dalish Inquisitor and how you interact with your (human) companions and get involved with the politics and wars of the humans.



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That's different, he's supposed to be a spy that everyone thinks is a Vashoth. Pretending to be one who has left the Qun isn't feasible when you're still acting like you follow the Qun. He needs to act the part to fulfill his role as spy. And he still has superiors, the Inquisitor doesn't.

 

Not true.  The background is about how you start out.  What you choose from there is up to you.  The Arishok gives me a role.  He says travel to Orlais, pretend to be a Vashoth, spy on the chantry there and report back.  So I join up with a merc company, I'm there when everything goes down and they make me Inquisitor.  I should be free at that point to either fulfill my role, continue to pretend or make the decision that the circumstances have changed my role.  

 

Even beyond that making it so you can't follow the Qun basically rips the culture from the Qunari.  If you have no exposure to the Qun and we don't even have the option of being a follower what's the difference between a Qunari and a human besides horns? It seems like the uniqueness of the experience will be people not trusting you because of how you look.  But the reasons they have for not trusting you will have nothing to do with a culture you identify with.  If I'm an Elf I'm Dalish/City and all the reasons humans hate me make sense and I can identify with them.  If I'm a dwarf with the Carta all the reasons humans will be distrustful of me make perfect sense.  But if I'm a Qunari with no exposure to the Qun and no real sense of the culture of my own people then where's the connection? From where I'm standing culture wise they're handicapped.



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Team Fortress 2-

 

"That dwarf/elf is a spy!"

 

Quickly! Try to set them on fire!!!

 

 

I like how the Dalish background says you had little need to interact with humans.

 

I actually hope that comes into play, storywise,  in how you can role your Dalish Inquisitor and how you interact with your (human) companions and get involved with the politics and wars of the humans.

 

They have previously stated that they wanted more reactivity to the inquisitors class/race so I wouldn't see why they wouldn't.



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The background for all classess of thequnari race should make things interesting with Iron Bull and sounds like the mage of that race was never in the circle interesting.



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Not true.  The background is about how you start out.  What you choose from there is up to you.  The Arishok gives me a role.  He says travel to Orlais, pretend to be a Vashoth, spy on the chantry there and report back.  So I join up with a merc company, I'm there when everything goes down and they make me Inquisitor.  I should be free at that point to either fulfill my role, continue to pretend or make the decision that the circumstances have changed my role.  
 
Even beyond that making it so you can't follow the Qun basically rips the culture from the Qunari.  If you have no exposure to the Qun and we don't even have the option of being a follower what's the difference between a Qunari and a human besides horns? It seems like the uniqueness of the experience will be people not trusting you because of how you look.  But the reasons they have for not trusting you will have nothing to do with a culture you identify with.  If I'm an Elf I'm Dalish/City and all the reasons humans hate me make sense and I can identify with them.  If I'm a dwarf with the Carta all the reasons humans will be distrustful of me make perfect sense.  But if I'm a Qunari with no exposure to the Qun and no real sense of the culture of my own people then where's the connection? From where I'm standing culture wise they're handicapped.


If you're Elf, you're Dalish. not City.

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Quickly! Try to set them on fire!!!
 
 
 
They have previously stated that they wanted more reactivity to the inquisitors class/race so I wouldn't see why they wouldn't.


and I'm looking forward to that.

#172
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Better than Ferelden for the third time in a row.


About time, I say.

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Damn. Dude looks boss. 



#174
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If you're Elf, you're Dalish. not City.

 

I'm aware.  I was speaking from a culture standpoint overall not just your options in the game.  The comparison is actually stronger if you limit it to just the Dalish.



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Not true.  The background is about how you start out.  What you choose from there is up to you.  The Arishok gives me a role.  He says travel to Orlais, pretend to be a Vashoth, spy on the chantry there and report back.  So I join up with a merc company, I'm there when everything goes down and they make me Inquisitor.  I should be free at that point to either fulfill my role, continue to pretend or make the decision that the circumstances have changed my role.  

 

Even beyond that making it so you can't follow the Qun basically rips the culture from the Qunari.  If you have no exposure to the Qun and we don't even have the option of being a follower what's the difference between a Qunari and a human besides horns? It seems like the uniqueness of the experience will be people not trusting you because of how you look.  But the reasons they have for not trusting you will have nothing to do with a culture you identify with.  If I'm an Elf I'm Dalish/City and all the reasons humans hate me make sense and I can identify with them.  If I'm a dwarf with the Carta all the reasons humans will be distrustful of me make perfect sense.  But if I'm a Qunari with no exposure to the Qun and no real sense of the culture of my own people then where's the connection? From where I'm standing culture wise they're handicapped.

 

Who is to say that the (Tal) Vashoth do not have their own unique culture?


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