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[SgtSteel91]

I like that it's implied that you can be a non-beliver and not into working for the Chantry. It feels weird to role play a character following a religion not my own irl. I hope I can be like "why should I pray to the Maker?" and "but I don't want to be a laysister or a templar, dad!"

[SurelyForth]

I'm pretty set on my Trevelyan being in her early 30s. And agnostic. And a widow. 

 

I've decided that I can work with this information, though.

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I'm just going to headcanon her parents as being more ambitious and paranoid than they are devout. They allow her to marry and forgo templar training as long as she and her new husband work for them, spying and building strategic alliances. Several years later, she refuses an order and they cut her off. After her husband dies, she turns down his family's support and returns to her parents (after a couple of failed attempts to establish herself as a kinder, gentler mercenary). Facing impending disgrace of their own, her parents leap on the opportunity to offer her back up to the Chantry, albeit in a less vital capacity than they'd originally promised, and that's how she ends up at the peace summit. 

 

It's not perfect, but I have a few months to pound it out. I was hoping to have my three planned Trevelyans be siblings (so their playthroughs would be parallel universes), but the whole youngest child thing kinda ruins that.

[Former_Fiend]

I'm disappointed about the home town. I was hoping for Kirkwall.

 

I know Kirkwall. I know it's districts, I know it's gangs, I know it's businesses, I know it's politicians, I know it's taverns. I know the struggles the people of Kirkwall face, the tensions that shape their outlook on the world.

 

I don't know jack about Ostwick except that it has double walls.

[Milan92]

Younger child again?

 

Come on BioWare let us firstborns get the spotlight >.>

 

Maybe firstborn is a bad omen.

 

Look at Hawke, then to the Cousland Warden, then back to Hawke, then back to the Cousland Warden.

[TheChris92]

Mmmmm, ost..

[Milan92]

Time to make all of the Attack on Titan jokes

 

I admit, it was the first thought that popped into my mind when I read "double walls" 

 

I now have to name my human inquisitor Jean or Eren.

[Daerog]

If you were firstborn, your family would have a major issue with you not being around to do your duties as heir to whatever the family does. A younger sibling can be sent off to do whatever.

 

You can imagine the human mage as the firstborn, though. The description of being the youngest is only applied to the warrior and rogue.

[loominousfish]

If you were firstborn, your family would have a major issue with you not being around to do your duties as heir to whatever the family does. A younger sibling can be sent off to do whatever.

 

You can imagine the human mage as the firstborn, though. The description of being the youngest is only applied to the warrior and rogue.

 

It's one thing that always sort of bothered me about the HN origin. Why send Fergus with the troops to Ostagar if he's the heir? You're better off sending the spare if you've got to send someone. 

[Kantr]

You could have a commoner rogue. Who specializes in archery. In medieval England there was a law requiring all able bodied men to be able to use a longbow.

[Wulfram]

It's one thing that always sort of bothered me about the HN origin. Why send Fergus with the troops to Ostagar if he's the heir? You're better off sending the spare if you've got to send someone. 

 

Fereldan doesn't appear to necessarily follow primogeniture.  Dairren says that "everyone says that you are more likely to succeed the Teyrn than your brother is".  Though he could just be trying to get into your pants..

[Gervaise]

I think the reason they make you noble as a human is because there are avenues open to you as a noble that are not there as a commoner.    Otherwise your origins would be too similar to say a dwarf commoner but not as interesting.  This way in DAI there are certain plots I should imagine, particularly in Orlais, where being a human noble will make for a different role playing experience.   

 

As for not being the first born, well that goes with potted history of being destined for the Chantry.  Your family are apparently devout and as Sebastian explained, you have the heir, the spare and then the next one goes to the Chantry - it's a bit of a tradition.   It does at least explain why you might be involved in the peace conference as a participant, rather than just a mercenary brought along to keep the peace.   As for the human mage, they could be first born but in view of Chantry law, they immediately relinquish all claims on being taken to the Circle.   Now I like that because I could have had a really big chip on my shoulder about that.

 

I like the way the different races are involved in different ways with the beginning so it is definitely being written with you coming at it from different perspectives.  

[Ajna]

Ostwick sounds so english...

[Mistic]

I'm disappointed about the home town. I was hoping for Kirkwall.

 

I know Kirkwall. I know it's districts, I know it's gangs, I know it's businesses, I know it's politicians, I know it's taverns. I know the struggles the people of Kirkwall face, the tensions that shape their outlook on the world.

 

I don't know jack about Ostwick except that it has double walls.

 

Well, we also know that the city is ruled by a teyrn and it's one of the most important Marcher cities after Kirkwall and Starkhaven.

 

I'm surprised Ostwick was confirmed (I keep missing these things, sigh). It seems Bioware doesn't want the human Inquisitor to have ties with the setting in DA:I. They aren't from Orlais, Ferelden nor Kirkwall, so it looks as if they are going to be spectators rather than people with an agenda. The same could be said of other origins we know so far (the Qunari are Vasoth, the elves are Dalish, the dwarves are surfacers). Only the Cirlce Mage seems to have a close link to the current events, mainly the Mage-Templar War. And that's just a guessing before we can take a look at the backstories.

 

EDIT: At last I found it. Damn, always late to the party.

[Magister Caedus]

Well, I was torn between Male Elven Mage and Male Human Mage for my first playthrough. Reading (and re-reading, if I'm completely honest) the snippets of background... did not change that. Now torn between First and a former Circle mage who's already been involved in the Mage/Templar conflict.

 

Edit: I've seen people speculating that our Circle background means we might know Viv. Am I missing something? Wouldn't we be from Ostwick's Circle?

[mlgumm]

I agree with Mistic about their trying to distance most of the Quizzies from local politics, but at the same time I don't think that's going to stop characters in-game from making assumptions about our feelings based on our backgrounds. For the humans that means they'll be making assumptions about our Chantry or mage leanings, though the description makes it pretty clear that we could have a pro-freedom warrior or rogue or a pro-circle mage. For the elves, people are going to assume that they're rooting for the city elves, which may or may not be true as the books make it clear that the Dalish don't see city elves as their people. The qunari Quizzie may not follow the Qun, but a lot of people are going to suspect you of taking over Thedas to hand it to the Arishok. The dwarves may be expected to have loyalties to Orzammar and have the chance to be like, "hahaha, nope" or "yes it is the homeland".

 

Basically, I think they thought very carefully about not limiting the choices you make role-play wise this time around. I always felt guilty being pro-circle/pro-Templar in DA2 because even though mages in Kirkwall be crazy, either I was a mage or my sister was and I might have to kill her in the end. Hawke always had too many ties to apostates in the family for playing a pro-Chantry Hawke to be believable to me. It'll be nice to have a background that may influence my decisions without making them for me.

[Dagr88]

 

Well, we also know that the city is ruled by a teyrn and it's one of the most important Marcher cities after Kirkwall and Starkhaven.

 

The three real cities with any semblance of power in the Marches are Kirkwall, Starkhaven and Tantervale.

So no, sadly we won't be able to create Free Marches triade with the help from Hawke and Sebastian. 

[Dermain]

Well, I was torn between Male Elven Mage and Male Human Mage for my first playthrough. Reading (and re-reading, if I'm completely honest) the snippets of background... did not change that. Now torn between First and a former Circle mage who's already been involved in the Mage/Templar conflict.

 

Edit: I've seen people speculating that our Circle background means we might know Viv. Am I missing something? Wouldn't we be from Ostwick's Circle?

 

Technically we could, but unless she is also present at the meeting I find it highly unlikely.

 

I have a feeling that Solas will be the first mage we encounter with Vivienne and Dorian be second/third depending on which quests you take on first.

[mlgumm]

Yeah, I'm a bit surprised that we aren't from Tantervale, but Ostwick was in my opinion the second most likely.

[Mistic]

I agree with Mistic about their trying to distance most of the Quizzies from local politics, but at the same time I don't think that's going to stop characters in-game from making assumptions about our feelings based on our backgrounds. For the humans that means they'll be making assumptions about our Chantry or mage leanings, though the description makes it pretty clear that we could have a pro-freedom warrior or rogue or a pro-circle mage. For the elves, people are going to assume that they're rooting for the city elves, which may or may not be true as the books make it clear that the Dalish don't see city elves as their people. The qunari Quizzie may not follow the Qun, but a lot of people are going to suspect you of taking over Thedas to hand it to the Arishok. The dwarves may be expected to have loyalties to Orzammar and have the chance to be like, "hahaha, nope" or "yes it is the homeland".

 

I guess so. I mean, at least the Human Warrior/Rogue backstory acknowledges that the youngest child in question was pushed in the Chantry's direction. His or her willingness will depend on the player.

 

Now I'm wondering if every origin will happen regardless of our choices, as in DA:O. I notice that the Human Warrior/Rogue is the youngest son, while no order is mentioned about the Human Mage.

 

Basically, I think they thought very carefully about not limiting the choices you make role-play wise this time around. I always felt guilty being pro-circle/pro-Templar in DA2 because even though mages in Kirkwall be crazy, either I was a mage or my sister was and I might have to kill her in the end. Hawke always had too many ties to apostates in the family for playing a pro-Chantry Hawke to be believable to me. It'll be nice to have a background that may influence my decisions without making them for me.

 

That's the problem of having only one origin. I don't care about limitations (such as Hawke having a set family and a set past) if there's more to choose from.

 

Of course, I guess that even these backstories will feel limited to some. The Human Noble's family is pro-Chantry, the elf is a hunter or the First, the dwarves are criminals from the Carta, and the Qunari are Tal-Vasoth. But I think it's enough to find at least a backstory that we may like.

 

The three real cities with any semblance of power in the Marches are Kirkwall, Starkhaven and Tantervale.

So no, sadly we won't be able to create Free Marches triade with the help from Hawke and Sebastian. 

 

I've seen Tantervale in the wiki, but I don't know where that claim comes from    World of Thedas says that the major Marcher cities are Kirkwall, Starkhaven and Ostwick.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

You have to be able to marry human royalty, of course!

 

i.e. Cassandra

 

Actually Cassandra is not the only human royalty or nobility in the game. 

 

Josephine is an Antivan merchant princess. It is not royalty in the sense of it being a monarchical royalty but she is a mercantile royalty. 

 

Dorian is an Altus. Altus mages are members of the upper echelon of Tevinter society. They are royalty in the political sense. However, Dorian is an exile and an outcast so I doubt his royalty has much weight attached to it. 

 

Vivienne is a mage courtier. She is not noble or royal by birth but I would say she is a member of the noble class by merit. It would be interesting to see how her position as a royal mage of sorts is now with the Breach, Morrigan being close to Celene, Orlais Civil War and Mage-Templar War. 

 

Cassandra is actually, well, a lot like Sebastian. A royal member of the ruling group that ended up in religious circles. She might be royal but she chose to ditch that live away. Hopefully we don't see Cassandra doing the "Maker, NO !" line. 

 

All in all, if you want to go for royalty and nobility, honestly, Josephine is the best bet as of now. So far, we don't seem to see her turning her back or being exiled or being an outcast so the term "Antivan merchant princess" has some weight to it. 

[mlgumm]

Our nobility probably won't matter much, either. I've heard some rumors that different backgrounds give you different stuff at the beginning (mercs for qunari, spies for dwarves, money for nobles, etc.), but chances are those are just rumors. If you want to play a noble character who is only interested in other characters with noble blood, you do have options, though.

[TheTurtle]

Our nobility probably won't matter much, either. I've heard some rumors that different backgrounds give you different stuff at the beginning (mercs for qunari, spies for dwarves, money for nobles, etc.), but chances are those are just rumors. If you want to play a noble character who is only interested in other characters with noble blood, you do have options, though.

Well they did say some situations will be easier for you depending on our race so maybe our backgrounds will come into play at some point in the story.

[Dagr88]

 

The three real cities with any semblance of power in the Marches are Kirkwall, Starkhaven and Tantervale.

So no, sadly we won't be able to create Free Marches triade with the help from Hawke and Sebastian.  

 

 

 

I've seen Tantervale in the wiki, but I don't know where that claim comes from    World of Thedas says that the major Marcher cities are Kirkwall, Starkhaven and Ostwick.

 

It'll be great if I am wrong. 

[ManOfSteel]

I hope the Inquisitor's age doesn't come up. I hate playing the inexperienced types. Despite being the youngest, I hope it still leaves the age open to interpretation. I can't see the Inquisitor being any younger than 30, and that goes for humans as well.

At least the Qunari sounds like (s)he has a little experience under his/her belt, unless they pull the rookie card. Please no.

[BioWareM0d13]

Oh great they have Teyrns in Ostwick. Which means there's a good chance Trevalyan is distantly related Calenhad or most like Amell.

 

Not necessarily.

 

Teyrn appears to be an Alamarri title, as it predades the creation of the nation of Ferelden. It probably just means that the people of Ostwick are also descended from Alamarri barbarians. No blood connection to Calenhad or the Amells (thank the Maker) is necessary.