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Not thrilled by the close chantry/Templar connection of the origin. Hoping to be able to play black sheep chafing at the role he has been forced to assume to family obligations.
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Heimdall

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Not thrilled by the close chantry/Templar connection of the origin. Hoping to be able to play black sheep chafing at the role he has been forced to assume to family obligations.

I'm fairly sure such a possibility is implied by the rather deliberate phrasing of "like it or not"
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Not thrilled by the close chantry/Templar connection of the origin. Hoping to be able to play black sheep chafing at the role he has been forced to assume to family obligations.

 

considering the family's close ties to the Chantry/Templars, the Human Mage could very well be considered the "black sheep" of the family.



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Better a Fereldan than a prancing Orlesian fop.

 

"You Fereldan turnip"

 

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Not sure about the Sebastian 2.0 thing. My human femquisitor is going to be pretty dedicated to the Chantry but I still don't think she would actually want to join it.  :wacko:



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I just don't like how the human backround is the only one to have age implications. 



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Hoping to be able to play black sheep chafing at the role he has been forced to assume to family obligations.

 

Ditto.



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I think human gets age because people relate to human age mainstream. If you tell the average buyer a dwarf is xx years old it has no meaning. You say a human is 20. They relate better. Again at times they do have to attract main stream.

I am sure you can be the black sheep on either side. Both sides intrigue me. I wonder just how much say you get at the peace talks.

In DAO one thing is never liked was how after you get invited to discuss strategy with the king you get no say. He just congrats you and assigns you a task. Now to be fair it had to work that way for plot. Here though since plot is less pigeon holed they could let you have some actual influence. Maybe peace is achieved or maybe not. I mean you wouldn't have as much say as the divine or mage leader but it would be nice to have some early influence.
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(Rather irritatingly) all Bioware's games tend to give you a forcibly young protagonist, from the only two exceptions i can think of are ToR's Smuggler and the PC in KotOR.
Shepherd has a birth year, Baldur's gate has you still a youth, ToR Jed/Sith are new apprentices, Imperial Agents and Troopers are shiny new cadets, Bounty Hunter's just got into the buisness, City Elves are just getting married, Dalish are childhood friends with Tamlen, Magi are aprentices,Nobles are younger brothers, and Casteless dwarves meet sister and mother.
I want to play an Old Man Wayne (Retired batman) character.


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Lulupab

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You can play as devout Andrastan but why being from Ostwick automatically means ties to the chantry? If anything Chantry and templars had more power in Kirkwall than the other city states of Free Marches. In fact the rulers of Ostwick are Teyrns and are not selected by the chantry or its approval.

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I don't think we'll have to worry about there being age implications in the human noble background. I don't think we'll actually meet our families so it will be easy to just say that your older siblings are in the 51-60 range while your Inquisitor is in the 40-50


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(Rather irritatingly) all Bioware's games tend to give you a forcibly young protagonist, from the only two exceptions i can think of are ToR's Smuggler and the PC in KotOR.
Shepherd has a birth year, Baldur's gate has you still a youth, ToR Jed/Sith are new apprentices, Imperial Agents and Troopers are shiny new cadets, Bounty Hunter's just got into the buisness, City Elves are just getting married, Dalish are childhood friends with Tamlen, Magi are aprentices,Nobles are younger brothers, and Casteless dwarves meet sister and mother.
I want to play an Old Man Wayne (Retired batman) character.

 

The devs have said that the human Inquisitor's age can range from somewhere between 20 and 40, IIRC. I suppose it depends on how you set up your character in the character creator.



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since the Human Noble family is closely tied to the Chantry and Templars, I'm hoping that if we choose the Templar spec, that we actually become a Templar and join the order.  not just aquire Templar powers as in past games.


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since the Human Noble family is closely tied to the Chantry and Templars, I'm hoping that if we choose the Templar spec, that we actually become a Templar and join the order.  not just aquire Templar powers as in past games.

 

 

I was just about to post something similar. Or at least the hope that choosing the Templar spec would get SOME acknowledgement from your family.


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TheEternalStudent

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since the Human Noble family is closely tied to the Chantry and Templars, I'm hoping that if we choose the Templar spec, that we actually become a Templar and join the order.  not just aquire Templar powers as in past games.

I don't think you can do that, the Templars exist to maintain a buffer zone between mages and Muggles, the Inquisitor exists to find out why it's, as Varric so aptly put it, 'raining demons'.
The Templars aren't and shouldn't be, big enough to handle this crisis.



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I was planning on playing a Human Mage at the start, so I'm super psyched as it's origin blurb appeals to me the most.  No mention of relatives at the conclave, though, so I wonder if we'll have familial run-ins there or if it's something specific only to the Human Rogue/Warrior?



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I don't think you can do that, the Templars exist to maintain a buffer zone between mages and Muggles, the Inquisitor exists to find out why it's, as Varric so aptly put it, 'raining demons'.
The Templars aren't and shouldn't be, big enough to handle this crisis.

 

well, they did say they want the specs to be more important, story wise, this time around.

 

I think if you learn the Templar spec, that means you actually join the Templars and become one.  Then, that could open up side quests where you can decide the "future" of the Templar order ( since it's fractured ).  Do you restore order back to the Templars and make it a fair, just organization?  Do you make it even more ruthless in hunting down mages?

 

And if you choose the Templar spec, then the characters should acknowledge you as such ( like when you interact with mages or fellow Templars ).

 

indeed, if you don't actually get to become a Templar, and just merely gain access to new abilities as in past games, that would actually be a disappointment, because I'm hoping for more reactivity and immersion based on my Inquisitor's choices.



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I rather hope joining the order isn't necessary (though possible) to learning Templar abilities.

The character I have in mind would like to learn such abilities to keep mages in check, but not join the order.

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Lulupab

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Regardless, Templar spec was the most useless warrior spec in both games. Not only the bonuses offered were weak, mages are minority and enemy mages are rarer. Shitty bonuses against rare enemies, aka useless.

If I were you I'd hope for better skills and talents rather than joining a broken group of drug addicts.

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You can play as devout Andrastan but why being from Ostwick automatically means ties to the chantry? If anything Chantry and templars had more power in Kirkwall than the other city states of Free Marches. In fact the rulers of Ostwick are Teyrns and are not selected by the chantry or its approval.

 

It seems to be a family connection rather than city


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I actually like the closes ties to the chantry.


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I don't think we'll have to worry about there being age implications in the human noble background. I don't think we'll actually meet our families so it will be easy to just say that you'r older siblings are in the 51-60 range while your Inquisitor is in the 40-50

 

In fact they could just be in their 40's, they don't have to be that much older than your Inquisitor who can be about 20-40. Makes more sense to have the oldest sibling be no older than about 45 so that your parents would most likely still be alive and not at deaths door. It would also make more sense for a 20 year old Inquisitor to have a 45 year old sibling than for them to have 60 year old sibling. 


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It doesn't have to be Ostwick that gives you Chantry ties. It was not uncommon in Medieval times for noble families to get rid of extra sons by bequeathing them to the Church. It solved the problem of having too many kids who needed inheritances and power by putting the extras in a place where they could seek their own kind of political power. It was something that gave the Church its political corruption. All those people who were in the power structure who never actually were called to be in the power structure and who were expected to still favor their families politically ... yeah, it caused a lot of problems.


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Karlone123

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Won't be long before people start getting out of control assuming we'll be forced to be Chantry supporters.



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No mention of relatives at the conclave, though, so I wonder if we'll have familial run-ins there or if it's something specific only to the Human Rogue/Warrior?

 

This would be awesome either way: whether you are a human mage or a human warrior/rogue, you have a relative on the opposite side of the conclave.


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