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Okay the so Reegar is a glitch and the Claymore is a skilled player utilizing an explot? Is this accurate?

 

If it is the Claymore wins

Incendiary stacking is a glitch. The Reegar works as intended but differently across all platforms, PC can get more performance out of it than console. I guess if they balanced it on PC it may have really destroyed it on console but it's an abomination even on lolconsole right now.


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Here's an arc pistol video I did a long time ago on lol ecks bawks. It was back when no one really used it and I hadn't used it much, so was sometimes only partially charging it:

 

 

I like what I'm seeing here, new toy it is...thanks Tuna



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Incendiary stacking is a glitch. The Reegar works as intended but differently across all platforms, PC can get more performance out of it than console. I guess if they balanced it on PC it may have really destroyed it on console but it's an abomination even on lolconsole right now.

 

It depends on how you balanced it.

It would have been possible to manipulate the stats so that the performance was more similar at 30 and 60fps.  And it is even easier of you want to reduce the actual DPS a little bit.



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Preferences are everything, "objectively". I love the Widow but I can't see how can be reasoned as a "Qurian" weapon. Nothing about it looks or functions like a Quarian weapon. But fine and the arc pistol, is it good? I have no idea but that and most of your arguments are conjecture. You have a strong preference which is great. But claiming historical accuracy is a bit much.

Writers themselves have said that the Widow isn't of geth origin but was modified to suit their needs. Geth modified, Alliance modified, but in the beginning the design was Quarian. Hell the Black Widow is an improved version of the Quarian designed Widow.  

 

I guess I can look up the post but that goes way back to ME2 discussion, I think.


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You'll need the citation. :)



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You'll need the citation. :)

Oh lord this might take a bit. Thanks. ^_^

 

http://forum.bioware...n-or-not/page-2

 

Post #33

 

After a quick confirmation with the development team, the short answer is no the M-98 Widow is not a geth weapon.

As people have rightly pointed out, it is a modified version of the original design.

Also, after speaking with the writing team, the original weapon by which the geth derived their own design remains a mystery. 



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I think there was another post about it someone where one of the devs echoed something similar but I can't find it. At least not yet. I think some stuff from the old board is missing but this is dating back a while. 



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I'm inclined to go with Cerberus on this.
 
Talon is the best Pistol, and also the best Shotgun.
 
Harrier is the best Assault Rifle.
 
Hornet, maybe I will give it another try.  I did like it on Turians, and Kalence says the damage is pretty good.


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NuclearTech78, I am with you on it not being Geth in origin, I even put that in my original post.

 

I disagree with the bit about it being Quarian, because there is no supporting evidence for that.



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Oh lord this might take a bit. Thanks. ^_^

 

http://forum.bioware...n-or-not/page-2

 

Post #33

 

After a quick confirmation with the development team, the short answer is no the M-98 Widow is not a geth weapon.

As people have rightly pointed out, it is a modified version of the original design.

Also, after speaking with the writing team, the original weapon by which the geth derived their own design remains a mystery. 

 

Nice, I appreciate the research but since it is a "mystery" as the origin goes it's most associated with the Geth I think so that's where we should leave it



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Just classify all the weapons as Asari then, since they were the first to discover mass effect technology.


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We know the original Widow isn't human either, as the ME2 description states they can't fire it without shattering their shoulder.

I'm going to extrapolate from Grunt's logic on this. In one of his first ME2 converstations, he is talking about killing stuff (typically) and mentions the relative squishiness of different species. Apparently, Humans, Asari, and Salarians are all "soft", while Quarians and Turians are tougher.

Considering this, it is likely that the former 3 races cannot fire the weapon without problems if humans can't. The idea of Krogan inventing a precision weapon is just absurd. That leaves us with Quarians and Turians  as the only realistic origins. (unless volus are secretly super tough)

Also considering that, in the Geth propaganda video, Shepard and Legion specifically refer to the weapon as the same one Legion used before, it is likely that the Widow was the actual weapon used by the geth platform in question, as if it was just Shepard drawing from known memories, why wouldn't he have used a more common sniper rifle such as the Mantis or Viper? (Widow isn't even in your inventory by that point in the game and any non Infiltrator/ Soldier shep would never have used it at all). It was found on Rannoch during a time period when quarians were only a minor council species, and considering quarian technological innovation abilites, it is unlikely that they would need the turians to develop a weapon for them.

Quarian still seems like the most feasible origin for the widow.


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Just classify all the weapons as Asari then, since they were the first to discover mass effect technology.


I'm interested in this: is there evidence that the asari were the first, and the salarians the second?

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Except that Asari run Claymore in ME2 days before a depowered version existed.  Hence they can handle weapons that humans cannot.

 

The origin is ambiguous.  There isn't even a date you can pin down for the origin (of the Widow).



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I'm interested in this: is there evidence that the asari were the first, and the salarians the second?

 

I know the Codex specifically says the Asari discovered the Citadel first (also shown in Citadel Archives), and Salarians were second.

 

I guess I can go through it and see if they were really the first.  You would assume so since they had a beacon on their home planet, were guided by Protheans, and are the most advanced race.



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I know the Codex specifically says the Asari discovered the Citadel first (also shown in Citadel Archives), and Salarians were second.

I guess I can go through it and see if they were really the first. You would assume so since they had a beacon on their home planet, were guided by Protheans, and are the most advanced race.


Ah ok thanks :)

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Ah ok thanks :)

 

The timeline on the wiki also implies it, but I don't know that it is cited well enough.

 

I would say there is better evidence that the Asari were first than there is that the Widow is Quarian or Geth in origin. ;)

 

Also the MP forum can officially be merged with the Story forum now.  Hilarity will ensue.



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Also the MP forum can officially be merged with the Story forum now.  Hilarity will ensue.

They're saving that for ME4, along with an updated galactic readiness that requires playing PvP multiplayer to not get the worst ending possible in SP every time.

It's biovar's revenge against everyone who cried about the endings for 2 years straight.