Companions... not all that attractive?
#376
Posté 26 août 2014 - 05:56
#377
Posté 26 août 2014 - 07:18
Huh I never noticed them. That's pretty cool. But in any case that's just one "outfit" bioware has made. Whereas Wynne needs be able to wear all the armour and clothes that's equipable.
But if the system wasn't so rigid I'm sure they would have at least given her a wrinkly body, because swapping textures isn't much work.
#378
Posté 26 août 2014 - 07:20
The little clip in Awakening I think, where the two find a baby near a crater, where find the Star Metal.
#379
Posté 26 août 2014 - 08:05
The little clip in Awakening I think, where the two find a baby near a crater, where find the Star Metal.
That is in the main game, not Awakening. Part of the Warden's Keep DLC if I am not mistaken.
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#380
Posté 26 août 2014 - 02:07
There was a fat old lady and fat old man body already in the game though, they chose to give her the young hot body.
Spoiler
Haha, how did I never notice before that even Granny Kent has a cleavage window. ![]()
#381
Posté 26 août 2014 - 02:29
Personally, I don't know why you are so offeneded by his comment. It is just his opinion and nothing more. You asked why every female in a fantasy game has to be a supermodel? The same reason why every male in a fantasy game has to be a 6'5 stallion with a sixpack ab. Oh, and by the way it is just a game.
Firstly, you're looking at the wrong game if you think DAI is going to be full of " 6'5 stallions with six packs". Varric? Solas? Dorian and Cullen also have very different body types.
Secondly, yes, it is just a game. And that's why I find it perplexing that people find the need to come on the internet and complain about the looks of the virtual characters, as though there's something absolutely terrible about women looking like individuals rather than idealised stereotypes. People seem to be offended by this, as though DAI is their one and only opportunity to objectify and perve over women, as though the internet and the world in general isn't full of objectified women in provocative clothing.
There will always be games like Dead or Alive with their waterbed breasts, underwear changes and swimwear DLC for these people.
I for one am delighted to see women designed around their characters and function, rather than their ability to titillate the viewer. For me it makes them much more relatable, much more real.
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#382
Posté 26 août 2014 - 02:33
Completely agree with OP. But hey, now you get to keep ur virginity.
You seem like a lovely person.
#383
Posté 26 août 2014 - 10:42
It's late for suggestions, but do you have a picture example of an armor you would like to wear in the game? This time if you find an outfit you like we already know you will be able to update its' stats (as was shown in the demo with the "all the feels" axe) as well as dev statements I believe.
http://static2.minit...9/24/156209.jpg
Someone in another thread posted this and I loved it with some alterations.
As for the alterations I would make: Obviously there are no cloaks in the game so remove that, get rid of the heels, we're fighting for crying out loud. I'd prefer to reduce the "boob" window, but would also be fine with eliminating it entirely. Though my ideas for a male version of this would end up leaving the male showing more skin than the female then.
The reason why I like it. I like that it's sort of armor that gives off the impression of a beautiful, enchanting and lovely dress. Is the sort of thing I only ever see on npc's and JRPG characters who are never a character I've made. I've never been able to make a character and wear beautiful and lovely armor such as this.
In fact I'm more likely if I make a character to find myself limited to awkward outfits and reused skins, all with dreary coloring, while npc's get lovely and exotic outfits. There's outfits that show random amounts of skin that do nothing for the character wearing it, is completely nonfunctional and not even has looks to make up for it as the appearance is completely uncomplimentary in nature. In that case is often a female version of a male's armor, which probably looked better without the skin showing. Skin showing just to be showing is worse than no skin ever. In fact looking at how I might alter this outfit, I'd be happy with no skin showing. I just want to be able to have my curves and an outfit designed with feminine beauty and elegance in mind. Even if there's just one.
I don't like too much skin showing, and the only reason I don't mind a bit of a boob window as long as it's not to the point of boobs about to pop out, is often it can add to the impression of a dress. Though as noted a lovely enough outfit with just enough feminine traits gets along fine even without that. I recognize how much a lot of people want a like the realism of form covering armor, but I just am not a fan of it, I have no problem with most outfits being that way, it's realistic. But I really want one lovely dressy outfit for men and women in all three classes armor ranges. I tend to enjoy being a bit girly.
I like outfits that are designed to be lovely, give off maybe a noble vibe or warrior princess (Not the Xena variety) look. Instead I tend to find awkward outfits that are showy and ugly (in my opinion), or outfits that are like armor but less skin randomly but doesn't actually compliment the armor's appearance, or is really really real looking and ends up being a gender neutral warrior look which works for either sex, but not for my warrior who likes to express her feminine side.
I'll put it this way, I despise excess skin for excess skin's sake, I don't mind it if it compliments the outfit, and I don't care for armor that hides the form too much and/or expresses no gender identity. Gender neutral armor bores me. I've fought too hard to be able to express my feminine side to be happy being stuck in gender neutral outfits for hundreds of hours in games.
I'm already stuck with short hair due to clipping issues, which I've learned to accept, and can usually find one I'm ok with. I hate short hair, too much of my life being spent with parents nagging me to cut my hair back before I got my independence. I've had to regrow my hair more times than I like, and I can't get it back to where it once was anymore.
I'd just like one really feminine outfit. Feminine meaning more than just some boob window or excess skin (As clearly neither are required), but armor designed with feminine qualities.
As for the male versions, well that's a whole other kettle of fish, and without a scanner so I can draw what I'm trying to say I'm not sure how to explain it. Is sort of a cross between a noble fencer's look and an armored knight. Would not be any more armored looking than the outfit above though.
#384
Posté 27 août 2014 - 12:35
Armor that has feminine Qualities akin to a Dress is almost certainly impractical and they don't seem to be going for impractical Armor Designs in Dragon Age - practical Armor Designs are basically the same for both Sexes: A great Example would be the Design of Aveline. Just saying. You might want to look in other Places. The closest you get here would be more akin to Viviennes Outfit, which is the other Way round - a Dress, that contains armored Elements.
#385
Posté 27 août 2014 - 01:30
The issue is no game ever where I make a character of my own and has plot where I can choose and define my character as a person, ever gives me something pretty for my character to wear. There may be other characters in the games walking around in any range of feminine outfits, but I'm generally stuck without. And feminine qualities does not need to be impractical, even all the super armored stuff can be made more feminine by adding softer edges and designs, given a more feminine touch with prettier coloring ect. Even full plate can "be" more feminine and practical technically. Not quite as pretty as this was, no where close, but can at least be feminine. Not just full plate made to fit the females body size, but has the exact same designs, shape and coloring as it's male counterpart.
As for dress like qualities, there's plenty of armored skirts, only thing that needs to be done is feminize the skirts ornamentation and colors which does nothing to it's effectiveness, just gives it a feminine touch. There's stuff that can be done while being practical. Though I still say asking for one feminine and pretty armor set is not asking for too much. It would be one set and no one who doesn't want to would be forced to wear it. Besides, this game is in Orlais, I have trouble believing no one's tried to make feminine armor.
The problem is I have no other options, there's no other game like this. I'll be stuck in whatever armor this game provides and looking at it for hours and weeks of my life and being unsatisfied in a very large part with the avatar I possess in the world. This is a common and frustrating experience for me, and like in real life, that frustration gives me a bit of stress. Even in the fantasy world I go to, to escape, I end up being pushed away from my femininity I like to and want to be able to embrace. I do not like generic gender neutral outfits.
#386
Posté 27 août 2014 - 02:06
#1 Mod on the Nexus - Companion Face Overhaul v1.0
....calling it now.
Firstly, you're looking at the wrong game if you think DAI is going to be full of " 6'5 stallions with six packs". Varric? Solas? Dorian and Cullen also have very different body types.
Secondly, yes, it is just a game. And that's why I find it perplexing that people find the need to come on the internet and complain about the looks of the virtual characters, as though there's something absolutely terrible about women looking like individuals rather than idealised stereotypes. People seem to be offended by this, as though DAI is their one and only opportunity to objectify and perve over women, as though the internet and the world in general isn't full of objectified women in provocative clothing.
There will always be games like Dead or Alive with their waterbed breasts, underwear changes and swimwear DLC for these people.
I for one am delighted to see women designed around their characters and function, rather than their ability to titillate the viewer. For me it makes them much more relatable, much more real.
I agree, it is good to see female characters designed around character and function.....my only 'aesthetical' query is this:
How did Cassandra Pentaghast's face change so much between DAII and Inquisition?
She looks like a completely different character TBH.
#387
Posté 27 août 2014 - 03:21
http://static2.minit...9/24/156209.jpg
Someone in another thread posted this and I loved it with some alterations.
As for the alterations I would make: Obviously there are no cloaks in the game so remove that, get rid of the heels, we're fighting for crying out loud. I'd prefer to reduce the "boob" window, but would also be fine with eliminating it entirely. Though my ideas for a male version of this would end up leaving the male showing more skin than the female then.
I don't think there will be any metal armor like that, but hopefully the leather/scale armor will have pretty or dress-like options and I'm hoping for prettier mage robes as well. Have you ever played Star Wars: The Old Republic (mmorpg)? In my opinion it has a really good range of player armor and clothing that you can upgrade with mods, plus it's fun and has a great story.
#388
Posté 27 août 2014 - 03:23
I don't think there will be any metal armor like that, but hopefully the leather/scale armor will have pretty or dress-like options and I'm hoping for prettier mage robes as well. Have you ever played Star Wars: The Old Republic (mmorpg)? In my opinion it has a really good range of player armor and clothing that you can upgrade with mods, plus it's fun and has a great story.
Its also the greatest missed opportunity for a Star Wars game ever ;_;
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#389
Posté 27 août 2014 - 03:24
Its also the greatest missed opportunity for a Star Wars game ever ;_;
Oh? I never got what people were so disappointed in, I love it ![]()
#390
Posté 27 août 2014 - 03:25
I don't think there will be any metal armor like that, but hopefully the leather/scale armor will have pretty or dress-like options and I'm hoping for prettier mage robes as well. Have you ever played Star Wars: The Old Republic (mmorpg)? In my opinion it has a really good range of player armor and clothing that you can upgrade with mods, plus it's fun and has a great story.
Actually I have, no longer have a computer that can handle it though, and as much as I love star wars, it isn't what I'm looking for. Still fair point, there are some nice outfits in that game. I even had a trooper that combined a trooper chest plate with a dress bottom, matched the colors and in the end they flowed together for a feminine and soldiery look. So sure I cannot say never.
#391
Posté 27 août 2014 - 03:31
Oh? I never got what people were so disappointed in, I love it
It's got a nice Story Component, but sadly, the Gameplay gets very tedious after a while.
#392
Posté 27 août 2014 - 03:36
It's got a nice Story Component, but sadly, the Gameplay gets very tedious after a while.
It most certainly does, plus it suffers from too much ability glut, and too many circumstantial abilities. I can't keep track of them all, and all the circumstantial abilities are only useful if they can be accessed quickly, but since they are circumstantial is hard putting them someone you can use them in time. I just get frustrated with games with too many abilities and circumstantial abilities that are rarely useable but when they are makes all the difference.
My other issue is the no more class stories ever period, and the focus on PVP. They dropped what made it unique and special and become just another PVP focused game.
#393
Posté 27 août 2014 - 04:25
I like the companions faces...especially Cullen and Leliana. I think BW did a great job. Maybe you should wait and see cutscenes before deciding they are so bad.
However as said by another poster Nexus Mods are likely to do companion faces...they have for DAO and DA2 anyway.
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#394
Posté 27 août 2014 - 04:55
I like the companions faces...especially Cullen and Leliana. I think BW did a great job. Maybe you should wait and see cutscenes before deciding they are so bad.
However as said by another poster Nexus Mods are likely to do companion faces...they have for DAO and DA2 anyway.
I hope so!!!
#395
Posté 27 août 2014 - 05:19
The attractiveness of the companions can only be measured by the amount of "rule 34"-content that will be created in the months after release.
Mass Effect is doing very well in that category. Probably better than any other game.
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#396
Posté 27 août 2014 - 07:19
There's a lot of variety in the companion's appearances, and even if they don't all look 'conventionally attractive', they certainly all look interesting.
In fact, this is the first DA game where I've honestly been able to look at each and every woman, and see in each of them a unique type of beauty. I'm actually pretty blown away by that. (Go Frostbite!).
Which is really quite amusing, because the one person who likes the way they all look, actually couldn't care less how they look!
#397
Posté 28 août 2014 - 12:21
The attractiveness of the companions can only be measured by the amount of "rule 34"-content that will be created in the months after release.
Mass Effect is doing very well in that category. Probably better than any other game.
That's not necessary . Triss from Witcher 2 is attractive. Try find rule 34 pictures. There are a few poorly made ones and all the others are taken from the playboy magazine. Jaesa Wilsaam from SWTOR turned to Dark Side is the most crazy sensual chick Bioware made. Not even one picture.
Skyrim has more art than Dragon Age. What do you make of it?
Rule 34 art has a function, the sexualization of characters that lack the general concept one way or another. If DAI turns out to have a big following, the only thing it shows is that the characters are not sexualized enough. Google dragon age 2 rule 34 for example, you get more pictures of Bethany than Isabela.
And still these games pale in comparison to pokemon ^^.
#398
Posté 28 août 2014 - 01:17
Firstly, you're looking at the wrong game if you think DAI is going to be full of " 6'5 stallions with six packs". Varric? Solas? Dorian and Cullen also have very different body types.
Secondly, yes, it is just a game. And that's why I find it perplexing that people find the need to come on the internet and complain about the looks of the virtual characters, as though there's something absolutely terrible about women looking like individuals rather than idealised stereotypes. People seem to be offended by this, as though DAI is their one and only opportunity to objectify and perve over women, as though the internet and the world in general isn't full of objectified women in provocative clothing.
There will always be games like Dead or Alive with their waterbed breasts, underwear changes and swimwear DLC for these people.
I for one am delighted to see women designed around their characters and function, rather than their ability to titillate the viewer. For me it makes them much more relatable, much more real.
Why is it better or worse to complain about that over anything else. We're buying a fantasy, aren't we?
#399
Posté 28 août 2014 - 03:32
Well that's just great. No Varric and we get Nosferatu as a love interest.
Awesome.
That's a good movie, creepy but really good.
#400
Posté 28 août 2014 - 04:05
I like the companions faces...especially Cullen and Leliana. I think BW did a great job. Maybe you should wait and see cutscenes before deciding they are so bad.
However as said by another poster Nexus Mods are likely to do companion faces...they have for DAO and DA2 anyway.
Have to also give special praise to Cullen and Leliana, they both look amazing with the character oozing from their pixels.
I've loving Leliana's new brutality, it's in such stark contrast to her now mature beauty...I find it mystifying.
I wish she could also be in your party, backstabs would be err' day with the Chantry's deadliest on my team ![]()




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