Aller au contenu

Photo

Companions... not all that attractive?


440 réponses à ce sujet

#101
Lady Nuggins

Lady Nuggins
  • Members
  • 998 messages

I dunno.  If anything, I find her scar too small and pretty looking.  Every time I see it I'm reminded of that picture Hester Shaw finds in Infernal Devices where her massive scar has been reduced to a tiny dainty thing to make her look prettier.  Ditto, why is Sera wearing eyeliner?  

 

Honestly, their appearances fit their character, and are much better in that regard than, say, the bizarrely attractive Wynne from DAO, or the lolmakeup Ashley from ME3.  You may not find them attractive - in which case, either don't romance them, or wait till release when we'll inevitably know more about their characters and be able to make a more informed choice based on character interactions. 

 

I find it interesting that whenever people (not you in particular) bring up makeup in this game, they mention Sera's eyeliner but not Cassandra's smoky eyes and lipgloss.  It actually takes less time to throw some thick eyeliner on than it does to blend eyeshadow, liner, and mascara the way that Cass clearly does.  Not to mention her sculpted eyebrows.  It seems like people are so used to seeing women with "natural," blended makeup styles that they forget it's makeup.  

 

Every female LI in this game is wearing varying degrees of makeup, even with all the gritty realism.


  • Will-o'-wisp, Giant ambush beetle, Reznore57 et 7 autres aiment ceci

#102
Illyria God King of the Primordium

Illyria God King of the Primordium
  • Members
  • 398 messages

I find it interesting that whenever people (not you in particular) bring up makeup in this game, they mention Sera's eyeliner but not Cassandra's smoky eyes and lipgloss.  It actually takes less time to throw some thick eyeliner on than it does to blend eyeshadow, liner, and mascara the way that Cass clearly does.  Not to mention her sculpted eyebrows.  It seems like people are so used to seeing women with "natural," blended makeup styles that they forget it's makeup.  

 

Every female LI in this game is wearing varying degrees of makeup, even with all the gritty realism.

Pointed it out because I'd just written a sentence and a half on why I found Cass too pretty - bashing her again seemed unfair.  But yes, I see what you mean, and while with Vivienne and Josephine it may be in character I really can't see Cassandra spending that much time on makeup.  



#103
Bugsie

Bugsie
  • Members
  • 3 609 messages

 
What is the Issue?, This man is smokin hot.
 
In a David Bowie kinda way.
 
nuff said leave him be.

Judging you...
c4.gif

Compared to the new engine, a lot of the characters faces (especially in DA:O) look a bit like a smooth pudding. Love the rendering in the new engine, much more distinct facial features. Gives me hope that I can render a unique enough looking PC.
  • Ispan aime ceci

#104
karushna5

karushna5
  • Members
  • 1 620 messages
Also, Sera cuts her hair with a knife, but totally loves to put eyeliner on XD
  • Nefla et Steelcan aiment ceci

#105
Paul E Dangerously

Paul E Dangerously
  • Members
  • 1 880 messages

It just seems to be another art-style shift, this time just "everyone is grittier and not pretty".



#106
Steelcan

Steelcan
  • Members
  • 23 283 messages

I agree with the OP



#107
Darth Krytie

Darth Krytie
  • Members
  • 2 128 messages

I actually love how everyone looks. They're all distinctive and interesting and cute. Battleworn and striking. I'm very pleased with their character designs.


  • Bugsie, Pevesh, Aimi et 4 autres aiment ceci

#108
Ravensword

Ravensword
  • Members
  • 6 185 messages

How did this come to be about me? And I never called them hideous. Can you try harder to be a jerk?


Exactly. For all you know OP is a big effin' stud. ;)

#109
Vindicare175

Vindicare175
  • Members
  • 322 messages

Nope don't agree , Cassandra and Josephine are both fantastic looking , i like the looks of the other male companions/advisers. Not a huge fan of Viv or Sera but they look fine.



#110
Ravensword

Ravensword
  • Members
  • 6 185 messages

I find it interesting that whenever people (not you in particular) bring up makeup in this game, they mention Sera's eyeliner but not Cassandra's smoky eyes and lipgloss.  It actually takes less time to throw some thick eyeliner on than it does to blend eyeshadow, liner, and mascara the way that Cass clearly does.  Not to mention her sculpted eyebrows.  It seems like people are so used to seeing women with "natural," blended makeup styles that they forget it's makeup.  
 
Every female LI in this game is wearing varying degrees of makeup, even with all the gritty realism.


That's not makeup. It's war paint.
  • Aimi et Lady Nuggins aiment ceci

#111
leadintea

leadintea
  • Members
  • 582 messages

No, we can not all agree. I think the companions are an equal degree of attractiveness as do many other people. As for Sera, I think she's adorable and will end up being one of my favorite LI and I'm a straight woman. On the other hand I don't find Dorian attractive in the least.

 

That's because Dawn of the Seeker was a straight up cartoon (one trying to be anime no less) and DA2 had a very cartoony/jrpg wannabe style. DA:I is more realistic so people are going to have pores, angles, and unlike DA2 not every woman will have the same face as every other woman. This was a huge problem in DA2. Even default white Bethany had the same face as supposedly black Isabella and both were main characters and should have looked distinct. If you want to play a game where everyone has plastic-face there are plenty of JRPGs out there as well as fan made mods.

 

I'm sorry, but no, that's some backwards logic right there. Cassandra has already been an established character with a certain look and regardless of your feelings on the media she was in, she still had an iconic look. The fact that they basically just kept a couple of features from her original design and tossed it on a completely new and different face has nothing to do with realism and everything to do with them destroying an already established character for superficial reasons - something so many of you in this thread are vehemently against.

 

Every other returning character pretty much looks the same with some minor differences here and there, so why not do the same for Cassandra? Showing pores, veins, and gaining scars are things that are all reasonable adjustments to a character's look, considering the change in the graphics engine as well as the spanning of several years. Completely changing a character's skeletal structure, however, is absolutely not okay, as it destroys the consistency of the characters as well as the integrity of the world they live in. The Mass Effect series was able to get it down pat, why can't the DA series do the same?

 

Don't get me wrong, however, I actually think Cassandra is very attractive in DA:I, much more so than in DA:II. it just irks me that the DA team can't keep character designs consistent and the fact that they essentially changed her face just because it fits with her angry personality.


  • Icefalcon aime ceci

#112
KaiserShep

KaiserShep
  • Members
  • 23 802 messages

I wouldn't be so quick to praise the Mass Effect series on its consistent character design. Liara's metamorphosis between the vanilla ME2 game and Lair of the Shadow Broker to ME3 was far more drastic than Cassandra's appearance. I think ME3's version is the superior one, but the only thing ME3 and ME1/2's Liara have in common are the eyebrows.


  • Bugsie et Nefla aiment ceci

#113
Lady Nuggins

Lady Nuggins
  • Members
  • 998 messages

I wouldn't be so quick to praise the Mass Effect series on its consistent character design. Liara's metamorphosis between the vanilla ME2 game and Lair of the Shadow Broker to ME3 was far more drastic than Cassandra's appearance. I think ME3's version is the superior one, but the only thing ME3 and ME1/2's Liara have in common are the eyebrows.

 

Yeahhhh let's talk about Ashley Williams. 



#114
leadintea

leadintea
  • Members
  • 582 messages

I wouldn't be so quick to praise the Mass Effect series on its consistent character design. Liara's metamorphosis between the vanilla ME2 game and Lair of the Shadow Broker to ME3 was far more drastic than Cassandra's appearance. I think ME3's version is the superior one, but the only thing ME3 and ME1/2's Liara have in common are the eyebrows.

 

Honestly, I didn't even really pay attention to Liara like that, but in any case, the ME series is much better at having consistent character designs than the DA series.



#115
KaiserShep

KaiserShep
  • Members
  • 23 802 messages

Yeahhhh let's talk about Ashley Williams. 

 

It's really the hair and the eye shadow that create the most dramatic changes to her look. Her actual facial structure and features are largely unchanged, but the fact that her hair down totally alters everything else. Had they kept the hair up and left the extra makeup out, the differences in her face would be much more subtle.


  • tmp7704 aime ceci

#116
Master Race

Master Race
  • Members
  • 469 messages

Cassandra in Dragon Age 2 looks way better IMO. I only hope there will be some cosmetic mods in the future though i heard it's unlikely there will be any mods for DA:I which sucks.



#117
themikefest

themikefest
  • Members
  • 21 590 messages

I like Cassandra's look. I hope she mentions in the game how came to have the scar on her cheek. It would make for interesting conversation.



#118
KaiserShep

KaiserShep
  • Members
  • 23 802 messages

Maybe it'll be some kind of flashback anecdote like how Lin Beifong got hers.


  • TheChosenOne aime ceci

#119
Ravensword

Ravensword
  • Members
  • 6 185 messages

I think we can guess how she likely got that scar, but imagine if it the reason she got that scar was b/c of something less exciting, like she got out of bed in the middle of the night to get a goblet of water, she then trips over a rug and falls onto the floor, her cheek grazing the edge sharp edge of a table. That would be lame, though.


  • Nefla aime ceci

#120
KaiserShep

KaiserShep
  • Members
  • 23 802 messages

Or something creepy, like how she's closer to her sword than she likes to admit.



#121
Nefla

Nefla
  • Members
  • 7 671 messages

I'm sorry, but no, that's some backwards logic right there. Cassandra has already been an established character with a certain look and regardless of your feelings on the media she was in, she still had an iconic look. The fact that they basically just kept a couple of features from her original design and tossed it on a completely new and different face has nothing to do with realism and everything to do with them destroying an already established character for superficial reasons - something so many of you in this thread are vehemently against.

 

Every other returning character pretty much looks the same with some minor differences here and there, so why not do the same for Cassandra? Showing pores, veins, and gaining scars are things that are all reasonable adjustments to a character's look, considering the change in the graphics engine as well as the spanning of several years. Completely changing a character's skeletal structure, however, is absolutely not okay, as it destroys the consistency of the characters as well as the integrity of the world they live in. The Mass Effect series was able to get it down pat, why can't the DA series do the same?

 

Don't get me wrong, however, I actually think Cassandra is very attractive in DA:I, much more so than in DA:II. it just irks me that the DA team can't keep character designs consistent and the fact that they essentially changed her face just because it fits with her angry personality.

Which other characters "pretty much look the same?" everyone I see has the same level of change (an upgrade IMO) that Cassandra has. For example Varric's jawline, hair color, cheekbones, neck thickness, and rosy complexion are all changed, Cullen doesn't look remotely the same in DA:I as he did in his original appearance in DA:O, Leliana looks much different than DA:O or DA2 (where she shared Cassandra's "unique" face coincidentally) etc...Cassandra's "established look" was shared by every single other human female character in DA2. They made everyone a generic, pudding faced, perfect doll proportioned clone. If she kept that "established look" that was established for everyone, then she would stick out in the much more realistic DA:I.


  • Will-o'-wisp, pandemiccarp180, s-jay2676 et 5 autres aiment ceci

#122
sandalisthemaker

sandalisthemaker
  • Members
  • 5 365 messages

I can, would you like me to?

 

Seriously though, why do the female characters always have to be supermodels? Why can't they just be well rounded, legitimate characters? Why do they have to be eye candy? All the female characters are at least on the pretty side of normal if not prettier, none of them are frumpy or overweight or covered in acne, missing teeth, ratty hair, etc...most people would kill to look like them and yet if they're ALL "unattractive" how does that make real, normal people who don't look like a super model feel? Unless you look like Chris Evans buddy, you have no right to complain. Those supposedly "unattractive" companions could all be actors or models. Could you?

 

OMG 

 

You win.



#123
aTigerslunch

aTigerslunch
  • Members
  • 2 042 messages

all this talk about pudding..... I need to go to the store and pick some up.


  • Nefla aime ceci

#124
The dead fish

The dead fish
  • Members
  • 7 775 messages

Beauty != attractiveness.  Personally, I tend to find men who are conventionally "beautiful" UNattractive.  I like guys with personality and wits who aren't afraid to dive into a project and get messed up, filthy, bug-eaten and cut up.  I like to see some wrinkles and scars on a man.  Fake tanner, moisturizer, hair gel, teeth whitening and the kind of cut abs you only get from practically living at the gym?  No THANK you.  They might be pretty to look at but I don't want one in my house.
 

 

Just wanted to point out how much I liked your post ! I also laughed ! 



#125
leadintea

leadintea
  • Members
  • 582 messages

Which other characters "pretty much look the same?" everyone I see has the same level of change (an upgrade IMO) that Cassandra has. For example Varric's jawline, hair color, cheekbones, neck thickness, and rosy complexion are all changed, Cullen doesn't look remotely the same in DA:I as he did in his original appearance in DA:O, Leliana looks much different than DA:O or DA2 (where she shared Cassandra's "unique" face coincidentally) etc...Cassandra's "established look" was shared by every single other human female character in DA2. They made everyone a generic, pudding faced, perfect doll proportioned clone. If she kept that "established look" that was established for everyone, then she would stick out in the much more realistic DA:I.

 

What I meant was that the characters still had the same general features and weren't too vastly different from their older selves. Cassandra isn't and definitely had the biggest change out of the majority of returning characters. And I don't know why you keep saying the whole "doll" thing. Like I said, this is a new graphics engine and making the characters more realistic by adding features like pores and scars are fine. What I don't like is how she had a rather oval facial structure and suddenly got wide jaws just because it fit her personality more. And why do you keep saying that oval faces are generic? You do know that there are real life people with facial structures like that, right? And that people with oval faces can have a variety of other traits that distinguish them from each other?